PLAN B analog blog

Adam,

The scenario you're raising is accurate, but keep in mind it would
more than likely only  be an issue while in MINI MODE 1. There are 11 others which this wouldn't be as significant. I am not attempting to discredit your observation and realize I have an unfair advantage,  higher ground if you will,  as I've had an opp to hear this module in action.

When the initial operational conventions of this module were defined,  I too had concerns based on what seemed to be potential circumstantial
complications. Then I heard it and the piece of paper with comments on it was crumpled up and thrown into the trash. I understand that this
cannot be adequately conveyed until you've had a chance to hear it 
yourselves,  but as soon as you do I speculate you'll come to similar
conclusions.

You will be amazed at what it came do. Things which it can't I
don't think will be as much of an issue at that point. We are currently discussing our initial sound files examples, the goal being to clearly highlight the key features without masking the audio through creative secondary processing (anything sounds good going through THAT delay). 

- P   


--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "elemental"
<adam.elemental@...> wrote:
>
> Sounding good !!
> 
> One question about the select buttons again :
> If an external VC is modulating the waveshape of osc 1 and I want to
> adjust the waveshape of osc 2... i'd have to deselect 1 and select 2,
> asjust, then go back. ?
> I'm just thinking... it could get confusing, esp if modulation is
> happening at audio rates - switching back and forth. Hard to say in
> practice though I am just theorising! 
> 
> Ideally there would be another select for ext cv for each osc. But I
> understand space and cost are prob more important to consider.
> 
> Thanks for all the info. Def on my list now. 
> 
> 
> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure
> that out)" <peter@> wrote:
> >
> > Making an astute prediction: Once you all hear it, your apprehensions
> > will subside.  The MOdel 30 not only behaves like it's analog brethren
> > as far as the user experience - the interface, it sounds remarkably
> > analog as well.
> > 
> > We must remember the big part of the DX wasnot only the operator
> architecture, but the manner in which it handled polyphony.  This took
> a big toll on the it's richness.  They weren't fat.  The MOdel 30
> doesn't have these issues.  Imagine that marvelous phase cancellation
> caused by two slightly detuned analog oscillators. We know this sound.
>  Now imagine that phase cycle being a minute long. These are the types
> of advantages digital technology bring to the analog model.
> > 
> > Sound samples will be here soon.
> > 
> > Regarding the select switches, and we must keep in mind that the MOdel
> > 30 is still in development and being digital, changes can come easily.
> > But as it stands, the select switches are used in conjunction with the
> > WAVESHAPE (labeled 'Variable') controls to determine which VCO or
> > combination of VCOs are effected by manual adjustment or control
> > voltage of waveshape.
> > 
> > For instance,  if you wish to change the waveshape of VCO 1 alone, you
> > would depress it's SELECT button, it's LED will light indicating it's
> > armed and then you could change it's waveshape via the pot or
> > external VC.  If more than one VCO is selected, which is allowed, then
> > each individual LED will light and adjustments to the Variable control
> > will effect them all.
> > 
> > If multiple VCOs are enabled and on the next adjustment you wanted to
> > change only one of them, depressing the select button of any
> > 'live' VCO will disarm it.  It's LED would turn off, it would not be
> affected by the change.
> > 
> > - P
> > 
> > 
> > --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, tomas everaert
> > <teveraer@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 25 Apr 2008, at 01:03, gabu_004 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Your new VCO seems to be really indeed giving us a new approach on
> > > > timbre manipulation
> > > >  and soundcreation...
> > >
> > > Agreed.
> > >
> > > I must admit, the very first moment I saw the model 30
announcement, I
> > > had something like: nice, but not spectacular. After all, don't I
> > > prefer analogue oscillators? And FM, haven't we seen that enough
> > > already? Yet the more information sneaks in, the more my mind is
> > > changing...
> > >
> > > By the way, thank you very much, Peter, for taking the time to
> give all
> > > these thorough explanations.
> > >
> > > Still one thing is unclear to me. How exactly do the select buttons
> > > function?
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > Tomas
> > >
> > > (anxiously---but patiently---awaiting sound samples.)
> > >
> > > (PS. Please excuse me for my yestereve's ramblings. It was late
night
> > > already here in Brussels (as it is now, in fact). I misunderstood
> > > Peter's sentence
> > >
> > > >  the VCAs come after the processing
> > >
> > > thinking that he meant that the VCAs merely serve a final mixing
> > > purpose and are not involved in the FM/RM/FS process itself. This
> would
> > > have been crazy, of course, since this would mean that, in the
> > > FM-modes, the modulation indexes are fixed.
> > >
> > > I must admit that I liked the idea of an FM-synth (ok, ok, the
> model 30
> > > is much more than that:-) that is unable to perform even the most
> > > simple standard FM patches, because the indexes are fixed. There's
> > > something jolly blasphemous about this, which I like. And stíll I do
> > > suspect the model 30 to be capable of a lot of interesting
sounds with
> > > such "fixed index FM", thanks to it's waveform
> > > morphing/synchronization/... possibibilies. But I must agree, having
> > > also VC of the indexes is still that little bit móre interesting :-)
> > >
> > > Heck, all this talk about the FM modes...and saying that I'm
> > > particularly intrigued by the RM and FS modes!)
> > >
> >
>