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my turn

2006-08-31 by jonesalley

I recently received the 2-CD set of live audience recordings of the 1974 Moody Blues, as previously discussed on the list.  It is now my turn to pass copies on.  The FIRST response gets a pair of CDs at no charge, the price is simply to pass them on to the next person in the chain, likewise at no charge.  All you need to do is email me with your name and mailing address, and I will send them out within a couple of days.
 
The performance is interesting.  There are some very good moments, and some nice rearrangements for live performance of original recordings.  There are also a LOT of lapses.  It seems that there were at least a couple of members of the band who could not remember song arrangements if their lives were at stake.  I am particularly curious, and this is not meant to be sarcasm, if Ray Thomas was a heavy drinker.  He can't count, can't remember parts, can't play in tempo, and is a serious impediment to the performance in general. 
 
Anyway, first come, first serve for a FREE pair of live Moodies CDs, the only condition is to pass the courtesy along to somebody else on the list for the same consideration!

Re: my turn

2006-08-31 by Bernie

Somehow I missed the requirement to pass it on. So, if there's
another person that would like a copy...

Bernie

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "jonesalley" <jonesalley@...>
wrote:
>
> I recently received the 2-CD set of live audience recordings of
the 1974 Moody Blues, as previously discussed on the list. It is
now my turn to pass copies on. The FIRST response gets a pair of
CDs at no charge, the price is simply to pass them on to the next
person in the chain, likewise at no charge. All you need to do is
email me with your name and mailing address, and I will send them
out within a couple of days.
>
> The performance is interesting. There are some very good moments,
and some nice rearrangements for live performance of original
recordings. There are also a LOT of lapses. It seems that there
were at least a couple of members of the band who could not remember
song arrangements if their lives were at stake. I am particularly
curious, and this is not meant to be sarcasm, if Ray Thomas was a
heavy drinker. He can't count, can't remember parts, can't play in
tempo, and is a serious impediment to the performance in general.
>
> Anyway, first come, first serve for a FREE pair of live Moodies
CDs, the only condition is to pass the courtesy along to somebody
else on the list for the same consideration!
>

Re: [Mellotronists] Re: my turn

2006-08-31 by jonesalley

...although I'm pretty sure the only penalty is karmic!




> Somehow I missed the requirement to pass it on. So, if there's
> another person that would like a copy...

Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2006-08-31 by tronbros@aol.com

In a message dated 31/08/2006 20:04:41 GMT Standard Time, jonesalley@... writes:
I am particularly curious, and this is not meant to be sarcasm, if Ray Thomas was a heavy drinker.  He can't count, can't remember parts, can't play in tempo, and is a serious impediment to the performance in general. 
You've only just noticed!  Ask Rick Blechta about his take on Ray's musical prowess or lack of.
 
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Re: my turn

2006-08-31 by Bernie

Well that still doesn't sound very good. Can I neutralize the karma if
I offer 2 copies?

>
>
> ...although I'm pretty sure the only penalty is karmic!
>
>
>
>
> > Somehow I missed the requirement to pass it on. So, if there's
> > another person that would like a copy...
>

Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2006-08-31 by Rick Blechta


On Aug 31, 2006, at 4:09 PM, tronbros@... wrote:

Ask Rick Blechta about his take on Ray's musical prowess or lack of.

To put Ray Thomas's lack of musical prowess (on the flute) into perspective, I play better than he does. I'm not a flute player by any stretch. As a matter of fact, my wife (who is a flute player of great talent and repute) told me recently that if I ever play her flute again, she will emasculate Martinge next time she sees him. She may do it anyway even if I don't because she's a redhead and they often do things like that.

When Ray Thomas told the press that he played DeFord flutes exclusively, they immediately ended production and declared bankruptcy.

I hear that he is a great ballroom dancer, however...

Rick

Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2006-09-01 by fdoddy@aol.com

 
 Mr. Blacktop wrote:
 
 
   "I'm not a flute player by any stretch."    ....ahem....so to speak



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Re: my turn

2006-09-01 by ceccles_ca

> I hear that he is a great ballroom dancer, however...
> Rick

Yes...A fine dancer and lyricist

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Into the midday sun
I've seen polar bears and seals.
I've seen giant Antarctic eels.
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And it seems worth noting
Water rats were boating
As a lark began to sing
The sounds kept coming
With Jack Rabbit loudly drumming
On the side of a biscuit tin

Re: [Mellotronists] Re: my turn

2006-09-01 by lsf5275@aol.com

In a message dated 9/1/2006 8:52:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, ecclesreinson@... writes:
> I hear that he is a great ballroom dancer, however...
> Rick

Yes...A fine dancer and lyricist

DR. LIVINGSTONE, I PRESUME
Stepping out of the jungle gloom
Into the midday sun
I've seen polar bears and seals.
I've seen giant Antarctic eels.
I've still not found what I'm looking for.

DEAR DIARY
Somebody exploded an h-bomb today.
But it wasnt anyone I knew.

LAZY DAY
Sunday afternoon, Like to get your feet up, watch T.V.
Wake up, for tea and buttered scones
Such a lot of work for you Sunday Moms.

FLOATING
Bouncing about on the moon
Guess you'll all be up here soon
The candy stores they'll be brand new
And you'll buy a rock with the moon right through

NICE TO BE HERE
And it seems worth noting
Water rats were boating
As a lark began to sing
The sounds kept coming
With Jack Rabbit loudly drumming
On the side of a biscuit tin
I find it hard to believe that Ray never put out a solo album. Is he dead now? If he is... we'll miss him.
 
me

re:my turn

2006-09-02 by Doug Berg

Really got a kick from all the "Siskell-Ebert" reviews concerning RT
and Moodies contributions. Didn't know bashing was such a strong point
with some in this group until I recall posting a tron on ebay a year
ago.
RT made positive contributions to the group since it was formed back
in the Go Now days, yet it seems when members of a group try to go
their own way, some seem to fall short. But that should not diminish
all the positive contributions they have brought forward. Anyone who
has seen MB live can attest to this. I remember seeing Roy Orbison
here in what was to be one of his last shows and to me he could do no
wrong, but in perspective some of his efforts on stage fell short but
that would not change my opinion of him as a performer or question why
I listened to him all these years. We should try to stay focused on
the positive side and keep these contributions in proper perspective.
Doug Berg M400 #703

my turn

2007-11-18 by jonesalley

I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list as to whether Mike should be a member or not.  I only wish to remind everyone that this is a private group that is owned and moderated solely by Don under Yahoo's terms, and while things are obviously free-ranging it is still Don's Yahoo! Group and not a democracy.  Like it or not, those are the terms we all implicitly agreed to when we signed on.  So, it's not really any of my business what Don's decision is and I hope that, no matter what that decision might ultimately be, we will all defer to his right to make that decision and carry on with the good humor and the graciousness befitting a group that is capable of the intellect and creativity that this one is. 

Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by lsf5275@aol.com

In a message dated 11/17/2007 8:39:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jonesalley@... writes:
I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list as to whether Mike should be a member or not.  I only wish to remind everyone that this is a private group that is owned and moderated solely by Don under Yahoo's terms, and while things are obviously free-ranging it is still Don's Yahoo! Group and not a democracy.  Like it or not, those are the terms we all implicitly agreed to when we signed on.  So, it's not really any of my business what Don's decision is and I hope that, no matter what that decision might ultimately be, we will all defer to his right to make that decision and carry on with the good humor and the graciousness befitting a group that is capable of the intellect and creativity that this one is. 
Jon, without a doubt, that is (some of) the lamest bullshit I have ever read on this list.
 
Jon, Don might have started this list, but it now transcends him. It isn't his. It is all of ours and we trust him to moderate it. But to do so, he must remain neutral and follow a fair set of rules. He doesn't get to throw people out that piss him off. That's not fair. We should all have a say.
 
Do you feel that it is Don's right to throw Mike away because his feelings are hurt? I don't.
 
Moderate, don't censor. Don you can hate Mike. I don't give a rat's ass. I come to this forum and I want to hear what he has to say. Put him back.
 
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Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by john barrick

Jon, I couldn't agree with you more - it's Don's list and I think we all
can understand frustration. Hopefully no one thinks that this is a
democracy - what a mess that would be. I'm simply asking Don to reconsider.
johnb



jonesalley wrote:
> I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list as to whether Mike
> should be a member or not. I only wish to remind everyone that this
> is a private group that is owned and moderated solely by Don under
> Yahoo's terms, and while things are obviously free-ranging it is still
> Don's Yahoo! Group and not a democracy. Like it or not, those are the
> terms we all implicitly agreed to when we signed on. So, it's not
> really any of my business what Don's decision is and I hope that, no
> matter what that decision might ultimately be, we will all defer to
> his right to make that decision and carry on with the good humor and
> the graciousness befitting a group that is capable of the intellect
> and creativity that this one is.
>

Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by zappaboggs

Seriously...
 
I really enjoy listening to everyone's banter...
 
Mike is a cool dude...
 
So is everyone...  This is the last place I would want to see anyone banned... 
 
The fact that "Mountains come out of the sky and they Stand there"...  Isn't that enough???  Geez!! 
 
I wish that would happen!!!  Every commute!!!  (actually it happens)
 
Ok, call me a fossil, but, you know what???
 
That phrase still means a lot to me...  Why?  I have no freakin' idea..  But....  it still defines who I am...
 
... and go and see a Porcupine Tree show...   Sheesh!!  They are still tangled up in tapes!!!
 
"But when you think of me tune in the frequency, Come out and play come out and play"
...Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of Dreams

 "Nothing can change the shape of things to come."
...Max Frost
 
"Any talent that we are born with eventually surfaces as a need"
...Marsha Sinetar


----- Original Message ----
From: john barrick <astroboy@...>
To: jonesalley <jonesalley@...>
Cc: Mellotronists <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:41:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

Jon, I couldn't agree with you more - it's Don's list and I think we all
can understand frustration.  Hopefully no one thinks that this is a
democracy - what a mess that would be.  I'm simply asking Don to reconsider.
johnb



jonesalley wrote:
> I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list as to whether Mike
> should be a member or not.  I only wish to remind everyone that this
> is a private group that is owned and moderated solely by Don under
> Yahoo's terms, and while things are obviously free-ranging it is still
> Don's
Yahoo! Group and not a democracy.  Like it or not, those are the
> terms we all implicitly agreed to when we signed on.  So, it's not
> really any of my business what Don's decision is and I hope that, no
> matter what that decision might ultimately be, we will all defer to
> his right to make that decision and carry on with the good humor and
> the graciousness befitting a group that is capable of the intellect
> and creativity that this one is.





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Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by Bruce Daily

Hi, all-

Grinding discussion, good thoughts. I might
interject this idea: There is another level to
lyrics. No matter how good (or bad) the lyric may be,
a vocalist still has to interpret them. And, the
audience has to accept the interpretation. "A Day in
the Life" could never have been sung by Sinatra. Nor
"My Way" by John Lennon or Jon Anderson (okay, a nod
to Sid Vicious).

As weird as some of the Yes lyrics are, I can't think
of anyone else who has tried to sing their songs
(cover bands notwithstanding). They are their own
element (and I like it fine).

Speaking of lyrics & vocals, only T. Boone Burnett
could've combined Alison Krauss and Robert Plant, and
produce an album (Raising Sand). Good stuff, IMHO.
Patrick Warren plays keys on one cut.

-Bruce D.
#1221 (bring back Mike!)

--- zappaboggs <zappaboggs@...> wrote:

> Seriously...
>
> I really enjoy listening to everyone's banter...
>
> Mike is a cool dude...
>
> So is everyone... This is the last place I would
> want to see anyone banned...
>
> The fact that "Mountains come out of the sky and
> they Stand there"... Isn't that enough??? Geez!!
>
> I wish that would happen!!! Every commute!!!
> (actually it happens)
>
> Ok, call me a fossil, but, you know what???
>
> That phrase still means a lot to me... Why? I have
> no freakin' idea.. But.... it still defines who I
> am...
>
> ... and go and see a Porcupine Tree show...
> Sheesh!! They are still tangled up in tapes!!!
>
> "But when you think of me tune in the frequency,
> Come out and play come out and play"
> ...Gandalf Murphy and The Slambovian Circus of
> Dreams
>
> "Nothing can change the shape of things to come."
> ...Max Frost
>
> "Any talent that we are born with eventually
> surfaces as a need"
> ...Marsha Sinetar
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: john barrick <astroboy@...>
> To: jonesalley <jonesalley@...>
> Cc: Mellotronists <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:41:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] my turn
>
> Jon, I couldn't agree with you more - it's Don's
> list and I think we all
> can understand frustration. Hopefully no one thinks
> that this is a
> democracy - what a mess that would be. I'm simply
> asking Don to reconsider.
> johnb
>
>
>
> jonesalley wrote:
> > I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list as
> to whether Mike
> > should be a member or not. I only wish to remind
> everyone that this
> > is a private group that is owned and moderated
> solely by Don under
> > Yahoo's terms, and while things are obviously
> free-ranging it is still
> > Don's Yahoo! Group and not a democracy. Like it
> or not, those are the
> > terms we all implicitly agreed to when we signed
> on. So, it's not
> > really any of my business what Don's decision is
> and I hope that, no
> > matter what that decision might ultimately be, we
> will all defer to
> > his right to make that decision and carry on with
> the good humor and
> > the graciousness befitting a group that is capable
> of the intellect
> > and creativity that this one is.
> >
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by lsf5275@aol.com

In a message dated 11/17/2007 10:19:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, zappaboggs@... writes:
The fact that "Mountains come out of the sky and they Stand there"...  Isn't that enough???
Jon apparently came up with that observation when he was driving through the Rockies when the cloud cover was very low.



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Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by lsf5275@aol.com

In a message dated 11/17/2007 11:11:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pocotron@... writes:
Speaking of lyrics & vocals, only T. Boone Burnett
could've combined Alison Krauss and Robert Plant, and
produce an album (Raising Sand). Good stuff, IMHO.
Patrick Warren plays keys on one cut.
 
Many of you may not know that "T. Boone Burnett," is short for Theodore Boone Burnett..



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Mountains - was My Turn

2007-11-18 by john barrick

I'm no fan of Jon Anderson - his singing voice was what kept me from
becoming a fan of Yes. I never gave much thought his lyrics, really
only noting that he was cool enough (to my teenaged sensibilities) to
name a song after a Robert Heinlein novel.

With that said, I have experienced a mountain coming out of the sky and
have to say that it's pretty damned cool. I used to live in Portland,
OR and when I first moved there I was driving east along a highway
facing the mountains and after a while noticed what appeared to be a
huge triangular cloud in the sky. It took me a couple of minutes to
figure out that I was seeing the snow cap on Mt. Hood and atmospherics
had visually eliminated the base of the mountain. Very disorienting and
a bit upsetting while you're trying to figure out how a cloud can take
on a triangular shape. On really clear days, you could even see Mt. St.
Helens from there which was even weirder, what with its flat top and all.

john b


lsf5275@... wrote:
> In a message dated 11/17/2007 10:19:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> zappaboggs@... writes:
>
> The fact that "Mountains come out of the sky and they Stand
> there"... Isn't that enough???
>
> Jon apparently came up with that observation when he was driving
> through the Rockies when the cloud cover was very low.
>
>

Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by MAinPsych@aol.com

This list is neither a democracy nor a monarchy.  It is a coop.  Put Mike back on the list.

F1
 
In a message dated 11/17/2007 9:40:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, astroboy@... writes:
Jon, I couldn't agree with you more - it's Don's list and I think we all
can understand frustration.  Hopefully no one thinks that this is a
democracy - what a mess that would be.  I'm simply asking Don to reconsider.
johnb



jonesalley wrote:
> I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list as to whether Mike
> should be a member or not.  I only wish to remind everyone that this
> is a private group that is owned and moderated solely by Don under
> Yahoo's terms, and while things are obviously free-ranging it is still
> Don's Yahoo! Group and not a democracy.  Like it or not, those are the
> terms we all implicitly agreed to when we signed on.  So, it's not
> really any of my business what Don's decision is and I hope that, no
> matter what that decision might ultimately be, we will all defer to
> his right to make that decision and carry on with the good humor and
> the graciousness befitting a group that is capable of the intellect
> and creativity that this one is.



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Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-18 by Tony

I second that motion!
 
Tony
#510
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

This list is neither a democracy nor a monarchy.  It is a coop.  Put Mike back on the list.

F1
 
In a message dated 11/17/2007 9:40:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, astroboy@cinci. rr.com writes:
Jon, I couldn't agree with you more - it's Don's list and I think we all
can understand frustration.  Hopefully no one thinks that this is a
democracy - what a mess that would be.  I'm simply asking Don to reconsider.
johnb



jonesalley wrote:
> I'm not going to venture an opinion on the list as to whether Mike
> should be a member or not.  I only wish to remind everyone that this
> is a private group that is owned and moderated solely by Don under
> Yahoo's terms, and while things are obviously free-ranging it is still
> Don's Yahoo! Group and not a democracy.  Like it or not, those are the
> terms we all implicitly agreed to when we signed on.  So, it's not
> really any of my business what Don's decision is and I hope that, no
> matter what that decision might ultimately be, we will all defer to
> his right to make that decision and carry on with the good humor and
> the graciousness befitting a group that is capable of the intellect
> and creativity that this one is.



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Re: my turn

2007-11-18 by Ignacio Nieto Carvajal

I wasn't sure about answering to this topic, I don't wanna put myself in
either faction, I just wanted to say this is the second time I am at the
list. First time was some years ago, when I just bought my 'tron. After
some time happy at the list I received some offensive and insulting
messages (well, they were for me at last) from a person, that decided me
to get off of the list. So I think it is a good idea, to a certain
extent, to demand some level of politeness in the list.

Of course this is not a democracy, this is a group created by one
person, and if you don't like it you can create your own mellotronists
group (ummm, what about mellotronists-against-censorship? sorry, had to
do the joke;). We all accepted some terms when joining the group (for
example, I have to write in english in order for you to understand me,
even though harder for me as it's not my native language), that's called
politeness. We are not children.

My two cents.

Nacho.

Re: my turn

2007-11-18 by Bernie

>We all accepted some terms when joining the group...

This is true, but it seems the terms have changed. I don't see this as
a problem as long as we know when they change and what the changes
are. Some of the other groups I subscribe to post a message at the
beginning of each month that contains the group policy and any changes
that might occur. May this would be useful here.

Bernie

Re: [Mellotronists] my turn

2007-11-19 by Bruce Daily

OOPS. That's spelled T. BONE Burnett. I try.
-Bruce D.

--- LSF5275@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 11/17/2007 11:11:54 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,
> pocotron@... writes:
>
> Speaking of lyrics & vocals, only T. Boone Burnett
> could've combined Alison Krauss and Robert Plant,
> and
> produce an album (Raising Sand). Good stuff, IMHO.
> Patrick Warren plays keys on one cut.
>
>
>
>
> Many of you may not know that "T. Boone Burnett," is
> short for Theodore
> Boone Burnett..
>
>
>
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