Mellotronists

hello every body 

I just wonder if some of you tried the new six tracks tape frame for 
M400  by streetly electronics ? 

cheers

Olivier

> I just wonder if some of you tried the new six tracks tape frame for
> M400  by streetly electronics ?

Did my review not make it to the list? There is a demo MP3 of them
uploaded to http://www.systemstheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SixTrackDemo.mp3

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

>Can you tell me whether there is any degrading of the sound by 
>squeezing in the other two tracks? IE. Frequency response/ signal to 
>noise. etc.

I'm thinking that since they have track gap issue resolved, then, no, 
this won't be too bad.  I'd equate it to mixing 2 tracks on a 3-track 
tape with recent tapes.

>Also, sorry for being Mr Stupid, but what's the point of the 6th 
>track if you're only utilising 5?

With six you get five?  :-)

With normal three tracks you get A, A+B, B, B+C, C---5 positions---so 
you can say you get 5 different sounds, two being mixes/blends.

With six tracks you still have 5 positions, but you have more mixing 
possibilities because each position has two separate sounds 
underneath it, including positions A, B, and C.  Let's say you did 
this for your 6 tracks:

3 Violins / Flute / Boys / Mens / Angry Strings / Piano

These are now 1/16" tracks instead of 1/8".  The tape head covers any 
two of these at any time; you cannot play only a single sound (unless 
you had 1/16" tape heads put in).

A = 3 Violins + Flute mix
A+B = Flute + Boys mix
B = Boys + Mens mix
B+C = Mens + Angry Strings mix (the mix for angry men everywhere)
C = Angry Strings + Piano mix

The idea is you're not limited in your mixing by 3 tracks - you can 
now do five different mixes.  Clever idea, actually, if you can come 
up with 5 pairs of mixes that you like.

Gee, I wonder if you can get three tracks mixed...Heh, very doubtful.  :-)

Hmmm...I wonder if you can more or less isolate one track (with some 
crosstalk) from the adjacent two.  Dunno, six-track tape owners would 
have to let us know if you can more or less isolate the inner four 
sounds or if the crosstalk from the adjacent tracks would be too much.

...kl...
M400 #805 - has trouble talking sometimes, cross or otherwise
M400 #1037 - has mixed parts

In a message dated 05/08/2006 20:17:00 GMT Standard Time, ken@...  
writes:

With  normal three tracks you get A, A+B, B, B+C, C---5 positions---so 
you can  say you get 5 different sounds, two being mixes/blends.

With six tracks  you still have 5 positions, but you have more mixing 
possibilities because  each position has two separate sounds 
underneath it, including positions  A, B, and C.  Let's say you did 
this for your 6  tracks:




Ah, the gloom now lifts, and all becomes clear!
Thanks Ken.
Andy K aka Mr Stupid

> Can you tell me whether there is any degrading of the sound by squeezing in
> the other two tracks? IE. Frequency response/ signal to noise. etc.

No degradation as far as I can hear. What did you think of the samples
I posted? Did you hear any there?

> Also, sorry for being Mr Stupid, but what's the point of the 6th track if
> you're only utilising 5?

Six track tape = five sounds, not five tracks, thus:

Sound 1 = Selector A   = Tracks 1 + 2
Sound 2 = Selector A+B = Tracks 2 + 3
Sound 3 = Selector B   = Tracks 3 + 4
Sound 4 = Selector B+C = Tracks 4 + 5
Sound 5 = Selector C   = Tracks 5 + 6

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tron@... wrote:

> No degradation as far as I can hear. What did you think of the 
samples I posted? Did you hear any there?

This sample mp3 sounds very good to me.  You were moving the track 
selector while playing...you Devil!

http://www.systemstheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SixTrackDemo.mp3

Track A) Flute / 3Vs  
Track A+B) 3Vs / Brass   
Track B) Brass / String Section   
Track B+C) String Section / Eight choir  
Track C) Eight choir / Boys choir

The "Watcher" bit is track B.  At the end, I hear track C choir 
blend then a slow glide back to track A.  

Good demo Mike.  Thanks for posting it.

Clay

> http://www.systemstheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SixTrackDemo.mp3
 

By the way, do these clips featured "classic" or "tuned" sounds?

"Feature."  Fat fingers...


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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: 6 tracks tape frame


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> > http://www.systemstheory.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/SixTrackDemo.mp3
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> By the way, do these clips featured "classic" or "tuned" sounds?

Tuned - they have to be!

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

In the recent message <ebhskq+aj5t@...>
you wrote...

> > No degradation as far as I can hear. What did you think of the
> samples I posted? Did you hear any there?
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> This sample mp3 sounds very good to me.  You were moving the track
> selector while playing...you Devil!

I prefer the expression 'strangely talented maniac', myself.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/