Mellotronists

Hello all!
    It's been awhile.  Just curious.  In our silly
friend's misguided Ebay auction he takes particular
care in pointing out that it is "NOT and EMI Kit" and
that it is a "REAL mellotron."  Any other EMI owners
feel a touch insulted by this commentary?  And I will
ask in earnest; Is an EMI considered less of a 'tron
in our community?  
Season's Wobblings!
-Jack Younger
EMI 103S (My mellotron can beat up your mellotron.)

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In a message dated 09/12/2005 23:19:08 GMT Standard Time, e4103s@...  
writes:

"NOT and  EMI Kit" and
that it is a "REAL mellotron."  Any other EMI  owners
feel a touch insulted by this commentary?  And I will
ask in  earnest; Is an EMI considered less of a 'tron
in our  community?


Dear All,
 
My first tron was an EMI that needed a fair bit of work to make it play  
properly, still a Mellotron though...
(Never a kit either!)
 
Norm

On Dec 9, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Jack Younger wrote:

> Hello all!
>     It's been awhile.  Just curious.  In our silly
> friend's misguided Ebay auction he takes particular
> care in pointing out that it is "NOT and EMI Kit" and
> that it is a "REAL mellotron."  Any other EMI owners
> feel a touch insulted by this commentary?  And I will
> ask in earnest; Is an EMI considered less of a 'tron
> in our community?
> Season's Wobblings!
> -Jack Younger
> EMI 103S (My mellotron can beat up your mellotron.)

Yes, Jack, it is a loser's mellotron. Please send it to me at once in 
order to help redeem your image with the group.

Rick

;)

In a message dated 12/9/2005 6:19:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
e4103s@... writes:

Is an  EMI considered less of a 'tron
in our community?


 
Sadly Jack, the answer is yes.
 
Frank (owner of a "real" Mellotron)
 
 
 
 
"We kid because we love."
 
-Rickles

In a message dated 12/9/2005 7:39:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
rick@... writes:

Yes,  Jack, it is a loser's mellotron. Please send it to me at once in 
order to  help redeem your image with the group.

Rick



You know, Rick, I'm glad that you recognize this as well. I think EMI  "Tron" 
owners should have a separate Yahoo group so that we purists can remain  
tastefully detached. I remember feeling the same way when my neighbor down the  
street came home one day with a kit built "COBRA" sports car. He had the  
audacity to think it was in some way comparable to my impeccably restored, all  
original, Shelby built 427 side oiler. The nerve.
 
Frank

> Is an EMI considered less of a 'tron in our community?

Yes. In this community it's viewed as a 'gay Mellotron'. Find your own
damned group, *EMI Person*...

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

The EMI M400 build quality has been discussed many times.  It is fair  to say 
that 'as built' they were not well contructed for many  reasons.  They are 
usually out of jig and seem to have been constructed  from ignorance..  Any and 
multiples of the following normally applies: main  frame skewed, keyboard 
tight and difficult to remove/replace, pads offset to  either right or left, 
capstan not parallel, key depth suspect, under powered  motors, unshielded 
transformer etc.etc..  The good thing is that it can all  be put right but with a lot 
of effort.  Macca has the last two EMIs  built and they were honest to 
goodness crap.  A predigious customer but  that mattered not a jot to the ham fisted 
lads at EMI.
 
Best,
 
Martin
 
STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
www.mellotronics.com

US East Coast  Agent - Jimmy Moore _JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
US West Coast Agent - Paul  Cox _pjc56@..._ 
(mailto:pjc56@...)

In truth, almost any Mellotron can be made good with enough effort and  
$$$$$. When they are right they all sound good.
 
Frank
 
 
PS. just kidding in my earlier post. I don't really have a  Cobra.

As the proud owner of a Steetly refurbished EMI 400. I can say without  
hesitation that it plays as good as any tron I've played. However, this act  of 
resurrection couldn't have been achieved without the true genius of John  and 
Martin. Any tron can be brought back to life. It's just that EMI's have to  be 
brought back from a greater distance than others!
Andy K

> As the proud owner of a Steetly refurbished EMI 400. I can say without
> hesitation that it plays as good as any tron I've played.

And have you played more than one? :-)

> However, this act  of resurrection couldn't have been achieved without
> the true genius of John and Martin.

You ought to see their fake genius.

> Any tron can be brought back to life.

I think there might be a couple that were simply a matter of having
their last rites read to them. In fact I think I even supplied one of
them.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

Hey!
     Sorry I'm so late to reply on this thread, but
I've been so busy.  To the task at hand...
     As for my EMI, it plays beautifully, and I've
played and fixed many a 'tron.  I especially enjoy the
ability to tweak it myself to my own preferences until
it's right.  With my EMI it has been expensive but the
sort of "frame off" approach taken with these things
allows that personal touch to go a bit deeper.  It's
more gratifying for me to have resurrected a 'tron
from pure death (and believe you me, this machine was
worked on by everybody under the sun and pronounced
DOA many times).  
     Also, for you slaggers, I happen to think the
profile of the EMI is very sleek.  You can have your
big, chunky key-fronts and your huge, clumsy
cheek-blocks.  And that white!  Yeesh, it's like a
piece of hospital gear!  I'll take a deep wood finish
any day.  It's like many women I've dated.  Beautiful
but crazy inside.  
     All kidding aside, a 'tron is a 'tron is a 'tron.
 It all comes down to what your tolerance level is for
obtaining a playable one.  A "standard" will set you
back more money, but be playable sooner.  An EMI is an
installment plan.  Buy cheap, pay as you go.  The
other perk is it's rarity.
     Thanks for your replies. 
Cheers!
-Jack Younger
EMI 103S  (The Bastard)  

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>      Also, for you slaggers, I happen to think the
> profile of the EMI is very sleek.  You can have your
> big, chunky key-fronts and your huge, clumsy
> cheek-blocks.  And that white!  Yeesh, it's like a
> piece of hospital gear!

Formerly white:

http://www.kleonard.com/mellotron/mpsum05/images/mpsum05-02-25.jpg

In a message dated 12/14/2005 7:43:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kornowicz@... writes:

http://www.kleonard.com/mellotron/mpsum05/images/mpsum05-02-25.jpg



Boy Bernie, that sure is pretty.
 
Frank

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@a... wrote:
>
>  
> In a message dated 12/14/2005 7:43:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> kornowicz@c... writes:
> 
> http://www.kleonard.com/mellotron/mpsum05/images/mpsum05-02-25.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Boy Bernie, that sure is pretty.
>  
> Frank
>

Thanks Frank.

Do you have any more photos of your current restorations? I'm sure 
you've advanced a bit since the last set you sent me.

Bernie

>      Also, for you slaggers, I happen to think the
> profile of the EMI is very sleek.  You can have your
> big, chunky key-fronts and your huge, clumsy
> cheek-blocks.  And that white!  Yeesh, it's like a
> piece of hospital gear!  I'll take a deep wood finish
> any day.  It's like many women I've dated.  Beautiful
> but crazy inside.

These women tell me that you're just like the EMI: made out of flimsy
wood, cheap, and you only last for eight seconds.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

You and your oh-so-predictable cheap shots.  *Yawn*   

--- tron@... wrote:

> >      Also, for you slaggers, I happen to think the
> > profile of the EMI is very sleek.  You can have
> your
> > big, chunky key-fronts and your huge, clumsy
> > cheek-blocks.  And that white!  Yeesh, it's like a
> > piece of hospital gear!  I'll take a deep wood
> finish
> > any day.  It's like many women I've dated. 
> Beautiful
> > but crazy inside.
> 
> These women tell me that you're just like the EMI:
> made out of flimsy
> wood, cheap, and you only last for eight seconds.
> 
> Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
> The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
> Streetly Sample Library
> http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/
> 


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In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:57:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
e4103s@... writes:

You and  your oh-so-predictable cheap shots.  *Yawn*    



Don't you know that Mike Dickson is our resident cynic?  It's humor,  dude. 
He's not taking a cheap shot at anyone. I, however, will take any shot I  can, 
cheap or otherwise.
 
I guess you missed it again. Let me guess. Mark?
 
Look back at the posts about the EMI Trons. We're all just kidding. Any  Tron 
is a great Tron... Once you get them right. The truth is, EMI Trons  
sometimes take a bit of extra work. We're all just goofing. Feeeeeeeeellllll the  love.
 
The fact is, most often, any nut cracking is done with humor. Look for that  
first. (apologies to our female members).
 
Merry Christmas
 
and peace,
 
Frank

No, it's not me. 
Get over it Frank.

--- lsf5275@... wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:57:36 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,  
> e4103s@... writes:
> 
> You and  your oh-so-predictable cheap shots.  *Yawn*
>    
> 
> 
> 
> Don't you know that Mike Dickson is our resident
> cynic?  It's humor,  dude. 
> He's not taking a cheap shot at anyone. I, however,
> will take any shot I  can, 
> cheap or otherwise.
>  
> I guess you missed it again. Let me guess. Mark?
>  
> Look back at the posts about the EMI Trons. We're
> all just kidding. Any  Tron 
> is a great Tron... Once you get them right. The
> truth is, EMI Trons  
> sometimes take a bit of extra work. We're all just
> goofing. Feeeeeeeeellllll the  love.
>  
> The fact is, most often, any nut cracking is done
> with humor. Look for that  
> first. (apologies to our female members).
>  
> Merry Christmas
>  
> and peace,
>  
> Frank
> 


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Fellows,
     Once again, my attempts at sarcasm get lost in
the communicative disaster we call Email.
     Don't misunderstand my retorts to Mike's charming
banter.  I'm not taking anything personally, at least
not from however many hundreds of miles away.  It was
pretty funny.  I just figure, the official cynic
should be able to officially dish it out AND
officially take it, and he does, don't you Mike?  
     Don't worry, Frank.  I don't think Mike's weeping
in a corner somewhere.
Cheers!
-Jack Younger
EMI103S (The Sarcastron)    
              



--- lsf5275@... wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 12/17/2005 2:57:36 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time,  
> e4103s@... writes:
> 
> You and  your oh-so-predictable cheap shots.  *Yawn*
>    
> 
> 
> 
> Don't you know that Mike Dickson is our resident
> cynic?  It's humor,  dude. 
> He's not taking a cheap shot at anyone. I, however,
> will take any shot I  can, 
> cheap or otherwise.
>  
> I guess you missed it again. Let me guess. Mark?
>  
> Look back at the posts about the EMI Trons. We're
> all just kidding. Any  Tron 
> is a great Tron... Once you get them right. The
> truth is, EMI Trons  
> sometimes take a bit of extra work. We're all just
> goofing. Feeeeeeeeellllll the  love.
>  
> The fact is, most often, any nut cracking is done
> with humor. Look for that  
> first. (apologies to our female members).
>  
> Merry Christmas
>  
> and peace,
>  
> Frank
> 


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In a message dated 12/18/2005 8:28:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
e4103s@... writes:

Don't  worry, Frank.  I don't think Mike's weeping
in a corner  somewhere.



Obviously not over anything you have to say, Jack.  ;)