Mellotronists

They don't get mentioned much round here, do they? I've just bought
their retrospective collection 'Sun Set' and it's undeniably impressive
(or at least the first half, comprising '3:47 EST' and 'Hope' is) and as
far as the first album is concerned it's Set Mellotrons To Stun.

An interesting band - 'Hope' is unfairly overlooked, for some reason,
yet it was quite a phenomenal compositional effort and perhaps one of
the best examples of how to blend an orchestra and a band *properly*.
It's just a pity thy were a victim of their own hype and a few rather
idiotic rumours.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

tron@... wrote:

> They don't get mentioned much round here, do they? I've just bought
> their retrospective collection 'Sun Set' and it's undeniably impressive
> (or at least the first half, comprising '3:47 EST' and 'Hope' is) and as
> far as the first album is concerned it's Set Mellotrons To Stun.
>
> An interesting band - 'Hope' is unfairly overlooked, for some reason,
> yet it was quite a phenomenal compositional effort and perhaps one of
> the best examples of how to blend an orchestra and a band *properly*.
> It's just a pity thy were a victim of their own hype and a few rather
> idiotic rumours.
>
> Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
> The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
> Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

I agree on all counts. I love the first two albums, after that they
really lost the script.
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It's only you
It can't be me
For I myself refuse to be
I am someone you'll never know
I am the little neutrino

And now I'm passing through
The one who is known as you
And yet, you'll never know I do
I really do

(Little Neutrino ending - 3:47 EST)

Terry Brown - Producer / engineer contributed a great deal to the
early Klaatu recodings. Terry worked with The Who (Substitute) and
Manfred Mann (Quinn The Eskimo) in the UK in the 60's (recording
engineer). He moved to Toronto in the 70's and produced Klaatu and a
bunch of Rush albums.

Tony Levin's 2002 live "Double Espresso" with Lary Fast.... Mixed by
- Terry Brown!

http://www.papabear.com/dblesp.htm

Clay

> I agree on all counts. I love the first two albums, after that they
> really lost the script.

Not to mention the Mellotron. I wonder what ever happened to it.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tron@b... wrote:

> > I agree on all counts. I love the first two albums, after that they
> > really lost the script.
>
> Not to mention the Mellotron. I wonder what ever happened to it.

See "The Info" button on left.
http://www.klaatu.org/
Sub Rosa Subway - Hofner violin bass. No surprise there!

Clay

>> Not to mention the Mellotron. I wonder what ever happened to it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Trontonians, but doesn't Andrew Seiger own it?
It's either him or the estimable Daniel Miso (so famous the Japanese
named a soup after him!).

Rick

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Hi All,

I've just been listening to "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary
Craft" by Klaatu on UK 70s Prog Rock Greats (Live365.com). Great tune
with some nice MkI/II (I think) in it. This is the only tune by them
that I vaguely remember. Can y'all recommend some of their better
albums (CDs for those who don't remember albums) in this style? I read
that their later stuff was disco-ish, so I wouldn't be interested in
that (or their rap stuff, if they ever did any of that).

Klaatu barada nikto,
Bernie

Bernie,

"Calling Occupants" was done on an M400, not a MKII. I did an instrumental version a few years back on my M400 and the Mellotron sounded pretty close (except for the backwards intro I threw in there). I had the MP3 out on my "TronSounds" web site for a long time before the site went down. Let me know if you'd like to hear it, I'll send you the MP3.

I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a big picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album (CD). Along with "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured Mellotron (flutes & 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some interesting synth sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for a snippet here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.

Ken M.
M400 #1217
MK II #247
(both soon coming out of storage in Dallas)


In a message dated 05/07/06 9:44:29 PM Central Daylight Time, kornowicz@... writes:

Subj: [Mellotronists] Klaatu
Date: 05/07/06 9:44:29 PM Central Daylight Time
From: kornowicz@...
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent from the Internet



Hi All,

I've just been listening to "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary
Craft" by Klaatu on UK 70s Prog Rock Greats (Live365.com). Great tune
with some nice MkI/II (I think) in it. This is the only tune by them
that I vaguely remember. Can y'all recommend some of their better
albums (CDs for those who don't remember albums) in this style? I read
that their later stuff was disco-ish, so I wouldn't be interested in
that (or their rap stuff, if they ever did any of that).

Klaatu barada nikto,
Bernie







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> I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a big
> picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album (CD). Along with
> "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured Mellotron (flutes &
> 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is
> another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some interesting synth
> sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for a snippet
> here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.

Their first is good, but their second - 'Hope' - is probably better.
Their others charted a fairly steady decline, though.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

interesting that the Carpenters chose to cover this tune late in their career....did they use a
tron at all?

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Bernie Kornowicz" <kornowicz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've just been listening to "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary
> Craft" by Klaatu on UK 70s Prog Rock Greats (Live365.com). Great tune
> with some nice MkI/II (I think) in it. This is the only tune by them
> that I vaguely remember. Can y'all recommend some of their better
> albums (CDs for those who don't remember albums) in this style? I read
> that their later stuff was disco-ish, so I wouldn't be interested in
> that (or their rap stuff, if they ever did any of that).
>
> Klaatu barada nikto,
> Bernie
>

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, kenmerb@... wrote:

>
> Bernie,
>
> "Calling Occupants" was done on an M400, not a MKII. I did an

instrumental

> version a few years back on my M400 and the Mellotron sounded

pretty close

> (except for the backwards intro I threw in there). I had the MP3

out on my

> "TronSounds" web site for a long time before the site went down.

Let me know if

> you'd like to hear it, I'll send you the MP3.
>
> I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a

big

> picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album

(CD). Along with

> "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured

Mellotron (flutes &

> 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with

Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is

> another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some

interesting synth

> sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for

a snippet

> here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.
>
> Ken M.
> M400 #1217
> MK II #247
> (both soon coming out of storage in Dallas)
>

Ken, do you know if they used the M400 Violins? The string sound
on "Calling Occupants" seems to have a sound very similar to the
MkII 3 Violins. I have the MkII 3 Violins on my M400 and they sound
quite a bit different.

And yes, I'd love you hear your version :)

Bernie

As far as I know it's the same sound but eq'ed differently.

There's no doubt that it's a 400. The 400 Cello sound is in Calling
Occupants as well, and the present owner of the Klaatu tron (can't recall
his name) was at Tronto in 2001 I believe.
Dan Miso - would you remember who this was?

When the Klaatu album first came out in 1976, there was a lot of speculation
that it was the Beatles reformed under a new name. The main hint being that
one of Ringo Starr's album covers had Ringo dressed as the Klaatu character
from The Day The Earth Stood Still (a superimposed face over Michael
Rennie's). There was also the vocal style in Sub Rosa Subway which emulates
McCartney's singing. Ditto for Dr. Marvello (George Harrison). Also - no
production / music credits were listed anywhere on the album. And Little
Neutrino has to be the only song lyrically accurate about sub-atomic
particles passing from the sun!


Chris





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From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bernie Kornowicz
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:50 AM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, kenmerb@... wrote:
>
> Bernie,
>
> "Calling Occupants" was done on an M400, not a MKII. I did an
instrumental
> version a few years back on my M400 and the Mellotron sounded
pretty close
> (except for the backwards intro I threw in there). I had the MP3
out on my
> "TronSounds" web site for a long time before the site went down.
Let me know if
> you'd like to hear it, I'll send you the MP3.
>
> I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a
big
> picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album
(CD). Along with
> "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured
Mellotron (flutes &
> 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with
Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is
> another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some
interesting synth
> sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for
a snippet
> here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.
>
> Ken M.
> M400 #1217
> MK II #247
> (both soon coming out of storage in Dallas)
>

Ken, do you know if they used the M400 Violins? The string sound
on "Calling Occupants" seems to have a sound very similar to the
MkII 3 Violins. I have the MkII 3 Violins on my M400 and they sound
quite a bit different.

And yes, I'd love you hear your version :)

Bernie









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This group seems to be the type to be interested in trivia, and if I'm wrong
I'm sure I'll be corrected severely and savagely, in fun of course.
Does anyone know the significance of the time "3:47 EST" on Klaatu's album?
I do and I'm curious to know if it's common knowledge or not.

Tony
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bracing for the onslaught ...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Dale" <chris.dale@...>
To: "Bernie Kornowicz" <kornowicz@...>; <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu


> As far as I know it's the same sound but eq'ed differently.
>
> There's no doubt that it's a 400. The 400 Cello sound is in Calling
> Occupants as well, and the present owner of the Klaatu tron (can't recall
> his name) was at Tronto in 2001 I believe.
> Dan Miso - would you remember who this was?
>
> When the Klaatu album first came out in 1976, there was a lot of
> speculation
> that it was the Beatles reformed under a new name. The main hint being
> that
> one of Ringo Starr's album covers had Ringo dressed as the Klaatu
> character
> from The Day The Earth Stood Still (a superimposed face over Michael
> Rennie's). There was also the vocal style in Sub Rosa Subway which
> emulates
> McCartney's singing. Ditto for Dr. Marvello (George Harrison). Also - no
> production / music credits were listed anywhere on the album. And Little
> Neutrino has to be the only song lyrically accurate about sub-atomic
> particles passing from the sun!
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bernie Kornowicz
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:50 AM
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu
>
>
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, kenmerb@... wrote:
>>
>> Bernie,
>>
>> "Calling Occupants" was done on an M400, not a MKII. I did an
> instrumental
>> version a few years back on my M400 and the Mellotron sounded
> pretty close
>> (except for the backwards intro I threw in there). I had the MP3
> out on my
>> "TronSounds" web site for a long time before the site went down.
> Let me know if
>> you'd like to hear it, I'll send you the MP3.
>>
>> I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a
> big
>> picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album
> (CD). Along with
>> "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured
> Mellotron (flutes &
>> 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with
> Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is
>> another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some
> interesting synth
>> sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for
> a snippet
>> here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.
>>
>> Ken M.
>> M400 #1217
>> MK II #247
>> (both soon coming out of storage in Dallas)
>>
>
> Ken, do you know if they used the M400 Violins? The string sound
> on "Calling Occupants" seems to have a sound very similar to the
> MkII 3 Violins. I have the MkII 3 Violins on my M400 and they sound
> quite a bit different.
>
> And yes, I'd love you hear your version :)
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
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>

it's too bad that speaker rumbling flange at the end of Little Neutrino didn't sound as
intense on CD as it did on the LP...

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Dale" <chris.dale@...> wrote:
>
> As far as I know it's the same sound but eq'ed differently.
>
> There's no doubt that it's a 400. The 400 Cello sound is in Calling
> Occupants as well, and the present owner of the Klaatu tron (can't recall
> his name) was at Tronto in 2001 I believe.
> Dan Miso - would you remember who this was?
>
> When the Klaatu album first came out in 1976, there was a lot of speculation
> that it was the Beatles reformed under a new name. The main hint being that
> one of Ringo Starr's album covers had Ringo dressed as the Klaatu character
> from The Day The Earth Stood Still (a superimposed face over Michael
> Rennie's). There was also the vocal style in Sub Rosa Subway which emulates
> McCartney's singing. Ditto for Dr. Marvello (George Harrison). Also - no
> production / music credits were listed anywhere on the album. And Little
> Neutrino has to be the only song lyrically accurate about sub-atomic
> particles passing from the sun!
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bernie Kornowicz
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:50 AM
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu
>
>
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, kenmerb@ wrote:
> >
> > Bernie,
> >
> > "Calling Occupants" was done on an M400, not a MKII. I did an
> instrumental
> > version a few years back on my M400 and the Mellotron sounded
> pretty close
> > (except for the backwards intro I threw in there). I had the MP3
> out on my
> > "TronSounds" web site for a long time before the site went down.
> Let me know if
> > you'd like to hear it, I'll send you the MP3.
> >
> > I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a
> big
> > picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album
> (CD). Along with
> > "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured
> Mellotron (flutes &
> > 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with
> Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is
> > another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some
> interesting synth
> > sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for
> a snippet
> > here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.
> >
> > Ken M.
> > M400 #1217
> > MK II #247
> > (both soon coming out of storage in Dallas)
> >
>
> Ken, do you know if they used the M400 Violins? The string sound
> on "Calling Occupants" seems to have a sound very similar to the
> MkII 3 Violins. I have the MkII 3 Violins on my M400 and they sound
> quite a bit different.
>
> And yes, I'd love you hear your version :)
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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If it was a low frequency flange then it was due to tracking error.
Vinyl mastering engineers HATE low end flange/chorus/stereo doubling.
hard to get the lathe to cut it.


fd

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From: charel196 <charel196@...>
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 8 May 2006 21:14:50 -0000
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu


it's too bad that speaker rumbling flange at the end of Little Neutrino
didn't
sound as
intense on CD as it did on the LP...





--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Dale" <chris.dale@...>
wrote:

>
> As far as I know it's the same sound but eq'ed differently.
>
> There's no doubt that it's a 400. The 400 Cello sound is in Calling
> Occupants as well, and the present owner of the Klaatu tron (can't

recall

> his name) was at Tronto in 2001 I believe.
> Dan Miso - would you remember who this was?
>
> When the Klaatu album first came out in 1976, there was a lot of

speculation

> that it was the Beatles reformed under a new name. The main hint

being that

> one of Ringo Starr's album covers had Ringo dressed as the Klaatu

character

> from The Day The Earth Stood Still (a superimposed face over Michael
> Rennie's). There was also the vocal style in Sub Rosa Subway which

emulates

> McCartney's singing. Ditto for Dr. Marvello (George Harrison). Also

- no

> production / music credits were listed anywhere on the album. And

Little

> Neutrino has to be the only song lyrically accurate about sub-atomic
> particles passing from the sun!
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bernie Kornowicz
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:50 AM
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu
>
>
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, kenmerb@ wrote:
> >
> > Bernie,
> >
> > "Calling Occupants" was done on an M400, not a MKII. I did an
> instrumental
> > version a few years back on my M400 and the Mellotron sounded
> pretty close
> > (except for the backwards intro I threw in there). I had the MP3
> out on my
> > "TronSounds" web site for a long time before the site went down.
> Let me know if
> > you'd like to hear it, I'll send you the MP3.
> >
> > I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a
> big
> > picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album
> (CD). Along with
> > "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured
> Mellotron (flutes &
> > 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with
> Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is
> > another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some
> interesting synth
> > sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for
> a snippet
> > here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.
> >
> > Ken M.
> > M400 #1217
> > MK II #247
> > (both soon coming out of storage in Dallas)
> >
>
> Ken, do you know if they used the M400 Violins? The string sound
> on "Calling Occupants" seems to have a sound very similar to the
> MkII 3 Violins. I have the MkII 3 Violins on my M400 and they sound
> quite a bit different.
>
> And yes, I'd love you hear your version :)
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> There's no doubt that it's a 400. The 400 Cello sound is in Calling
> Occupants as well, and the present owner of the Klaatu tron (can't recall
> his name) was at Tronto in 2001 I believe.

Not quite - each member of Klaatu had a Mellotron of their own, all of
which feature on 'Calling Occupants'. They sold them in the 1980s to
raise some cash for an ill-forsaken studio project that came to nothing.

In 1998 I had the following exchange with Jaimie Vernon, then of Attic
Records and major Klaatu fan. He said...

> Okay...talked to Terry (and had a previous conversation with John W.
> about it)...
>
> When Klaatu were recording the first few singles, producer Terry Brown
> would get all the latest gizmos and top-of-the-line innovative products
> at his studio before anyone else in North America.
>
> The band got their hands on a Mellotron in 1973 when they recorded 'Dr.
> Marvello' which was rented by Brown...they liked it soooo much that when
> it came time to record 'Calling Occupants' they decided to buy one.
>
> They got it from a place called Larry Sykes (Sikes?) Electronics and
> Music store on Danforth Avenue in Toronto in 1975.
>
> The band kept and used the machine until they disbanded in 1982...
>
> In the early 1990's Terry sold it through an advertisement in a local
> newspaper.
>
> I've since run into somebody who knows the guy that bought it...I will
> track him down and get his name (though after talking to Terry, he's
> sort of interested in maybe buying it back from the guy now).
>
> Meanwhile, Dee and his business partner John Jones (who produced Duran
> Duran's comeback albums in the 1990's) apparently owned one in the early
> '80's and would have sold it upon moving to England in 1984.
>
> I'll contact both of them and see what happened. Jones uses Mellotron on
> a lot of his recordings (most recently on the lead-off single for
> ex-Glass Tiger singer Alan Frew's solo release in 1995).
>
> And...there's a new female artist out of Canada who has been spouting
> off about using Mellotron on her new album...but like, Jones, these
> might actually be samples...OR they might be into the authentic thing...
>
> Lenny Kravitz AND Matthew Sweet in the States both own one (or at least
> did) last time I heard...

It later transpired that they bought one each and couldn't decide who
was to play what so they played them all.

It's funny how things turn out; back then, Jaimie was running a small
repress label in Toronto. When I aske him about the availability of
Klaatu records he went out to an indie shop in Canada and bought them
for me. Now he has the rights to some of the opublication of their back
catalogue and put together the 'Sunset' retrospective boxed set for
them.

> When the Klaatu album first came out in 1976, there was a lot of
> speculation that it was the Beatles reformed under a new name.

That rumour was started by an Australian DJ who really should have known
better.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
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In a message dated 05/08/06 4:16:32 PM Central Daylight Time, charel196@... writes:

>When the Klaatu album first came out in 1976, there was a lot of speculation
>that it was the Beatles reformed under a new name. The main hint being that
>one of Ringo Starr's album covers had Ringo dressed as the Klaatu character
>from The Day The Earth Stood Still (a superimposed face over Michael
>Rennie's). There was also the vocal style in Sub Rosa Subway which emulates
>McCartney's singing. Ditto for Dr. Marvello (George Harrison). Also - no
>production / music credits were listed anywhere on the album. And Little
>Neutrino has to be the only song lyrically accurate about sub-atomic
>particles passing from the sun!

And don't forget that "Sub Rosa Subway" came out shortly after McCartney's album "Red Rose Speedway". Another "clue"....

Ken M.

Yes, you will be corrected severely and savagely and maybe beaten with a
wooden stick by Martin!
(at least I'm told it's a wooden stick! :)

3:47 - if I'm not mistaken, is the time the spaceship lands in the movie (or
is it the time everything is brought to a halt?)

This now reminds me that I have to finish restoring a 1920's milkshake maker
(there's one of the same model in the movie)

Then again I could always use Rick Blechta's MK II. It also makes
milkshakes!


Chris



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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:30 PM
To: Chris Dale; Bernie Kornowicz; Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu


This group seems to be the type to be interested in trivia, and if I'm wrong
I'm sure I'll be corrected severely and savagely, in fun of course.
Does anyone know the significance of the time "3:47 EST" on Klaatu's album?
I do and I'm curious to know if it's common knowledge or not.

Tony
#510

bracing for the onslaught ...

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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu


> As far as I know it's the same sound but eq'ed differently.
>
> There's no doubt that it's a 400. The 400 Cello sound is in Calling
> Occupants as well, and the present owner of the Klaatu tron (can't recall
> his name) was at Tronto in 2001 I believe.
> Dan Miso - would you remember who this was?
>
> When the Klaatu album first came out in 1976, there was a lot of
> speculation
> that it was the Beatles reformed under a new name. The main hint being
> that
> one of Ringo Starr's album covers had Ringo dressed as the Klaatu
> character
> from The Day The Earth Stood Still (a superimposed face over Michael
> Rennie's). There was also the vocal style in Sub Rosa Subway which
> emulates
> McCartney's singing. Ditto for Dr. Marvello (George Harrison). Also - no
> production / music credits were listed anywhere on the album. And Little
> Neutrino has to be the only song lyrically accurate about sub-atomic
> particles passing from the sun!
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Bernie Kornowicz
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:50 AM
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu
>
>
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, kenmerb@... wrote:
>>
>> Bernie,
>>
>> "Calling Occupants" was done on an M400, not a MKII. I did an
> instrumental
>> version a few years back on my M400 and the Mellotron sounded
> pretty close
>> (except for the backwards intro I threw in there). I had the MP3
> out on my
>> "TronSounds" web site for a long time before the site went down.
> Let me know if
>> you'd like to hear it, I'll send you the MP3.
>>
>> I think the name of the first Klaatu CD was 3:47 EST, and it had a
> big
>> picture of the sun on it. Their best stuff was on that album
> (CD). Along with
>> "Calling Occupants", a song named "Dr. Marvello" featured
> Mellotron (flutes &
>> 3-violins), but I can't recall any others with
> Mellotron. "Subrosa Subway" is
>> another great song fron that CD,and "Little Neutrino" has some
> interesting synth
>> sounds. None of their other albums featured Mellotron (excep for
> a snippet
>> here and there), or had songs as great as the first one, IMHO.
>>
>> Ken M.
>> M400 #1217
>> MK II #247
>> (both soon coming out of storage in Dallas)
>>
>
> Ken, do you know if they used the M400 Violins? The string sound
> on "Calling Occupants" seems to have a sound very similar to the
> MkII 3 Violins. I have the MkII 3 Violins on my M400 and they sound
> quite a bit different.
>
> And yes, I'd love you hear your version :)
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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More Klaatu trivia:
The Carpenters version of "Calling Occupants" - Arrangement by Peter
Knight (Days Of Future Past)

The morse code message at the end of Sub Rosa Subway decoded:
From Alfred, heed thy sharpened ear
A message we do bring
Starship appears upon our sphere
Through London's sky come spring.

Little Neutrino: The vocal effect - Moog Sonic V synthesizer (John)
though an Artificial Larynx (Dee). The Cello, flute and bass sounds
are all Moog Sonic V. The 4th member of Klaatu, Terry Brown had his
way with this track!

y'all is scaring me sumpin fierce....

-----Original Message-----
From: ceccles_ca <ecclesreinson@...>
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:47:34 -0000
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu

More Klaatu trivia:
The Carpenters version of "Calling Occupants" - Arrangement by Peter
Knight (Days Of Future Past)

The morse code message at the end of Sub Rosa Subway decoded:
From Alfred, heed thy sharpened ear
A message we do bring
Starship appears upon our sphere
Through London's sky come spring.

Little Neutrino: The vocal effect - Moog Sonic V synthesizer (John)
though an Artificial Larynx (Dee). The Cello, flute and bass sounds
are all Moog Sonic V. The 4th member of Klaatu, Terry Brown had his
way with this track!















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In a message dated 05/09/06 7:49:44 AM Central Daylight Time, ecclesreinson@... writes:

More Klaatu trivia:
The Carpenters version of "Calling Occupants" - Arrangement by Peter
Knight (Days Of Future Past)

More Klaatu Trivia:

The inspiration for the Song "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft" was a magazine article from the late 1940s or early 1950s describing a "World Contact Day" that was being proposed at the time. The idea in the article was for everyone to "close their eyes and concentrate" and contact space travellers through telepathy. If I remember correctly, the article actually started out with the words "Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft!, Calling Occupants of Interplanetary Craft!"

Do any of these word sound familiar? Most of the lyrics appear to have come directly from this article. I couldn't believe it when I read the article. I had always thought that the lyrics and idea for the song were totally original. I still give them (Klaatu) credit though, for pulling it all together.

Reminds me about the story of Lennon's "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" from Sgt. Pepper. That song was inspired from a circus poster, and some of the lyrics in that song were on the poster.

It's interesting where ideas for songs come from.


Ken M.

tronbros@... wrote:

> Who are Klaatu and why?

I love the first two albums ("3:47 EST" and "Hope"). After that
they lost the plot PDQ, though they still had some good songs on
each album. But those two are gems of mid 70s progressive ambition
meets gorgeous pop craftsmanship.
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"Codetalkers" CD coming very soon in 2006
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Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:02 AM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu

Who are Klaatu and why?

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On Tue, 9 May 2006, tony wrote:

> Klaatu is a man like being played by Michael Rennie is the 1951 sci fi
> classic film "The Day the Earth Stood Still". Gort is his robot guardian
> who scared the wits out of me as a kid. Rent it and watch the b/w
> version, as colorizing isn't as satisfying. Get's back to the
> imagination requirement. The Theramin is used extensively on the sound
> track and Bernard Herrmann scored it. The movie inspired a band that
> took the character's name (Klaatu) and made some music in the 70's.

colorized? yech.
[thank goodness ted turner shut down his colorizing factory years ago...]

it's one of the best film scores amongst herrmann's great scores.
i have the soundtrack cd at home someplace, probably next to the
soundtrack to "forbidden planet" [early synthesizer experimentalism].
the theremin adds just the right "otherworldly-ness" to the score.
...sort of the way a mellotron adds something when used just right.

it's brilliant!

...jeff

> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
>
> Tony
> #510
> I don't know the "why" part as the film is far superior entertainment than their music, in my opinion.

As a matter of fact "Forbidden Planet" was the first film score using
electronic music exclusively. An interesting film for the aforementioned
fact, but not nearly as interesting (to me at least) as The Day the Earth
Stood Still. Forbidden Planet is more like a comedy with Leslie Neilson as
the straight man! How time changed his roles, IE the Naked Gun series,
Police Squad etc.

Bottom line to me is the birth of a new music genre well before Dr. Moog
graced us with his brilliance and resulting tools for producing intricate
compositions from bands like Tangerine Dream.

Tony
#510

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From: <jeffc@...>
To: <mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu


> On Tue, 9 May 2006, tony wrote:
>
>> Klaatu is a man like being played by Michael Rennie is the 1951 sci fi
>> classic film "The Day the Earth Stood Still". Gort is his robot guardian
>> who scared the wits out of me as a kid. Rent it and watch the b/w
>> version, as colorizing isn't as satisfying. Get's back to the
>> imagination requirement. The Theramin is used extensively on the sound
>> track and Bernard Herrmann scored it. The movie inspired a band that
>> took the character's name (Klaatu) and made some music in the 70's.
>
>
> colorized? yech.
> [thank goodness ted turner shut down his colorizing factory years ago...]
>
> it's one of the best film scores amongst herrmann's great scores.
> i have the soundtrack cd at home someplace, probably next to the
> soundtrack to "forbidden planet" [early synthesizer experimentalism].
> the theremin adds just the right "otherworldly-ness" to the score.
> ...sort of the way a mellotron adds something when used just right.
>
> it's brilliant!
>
> ...jeff
>
>
>
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
>>
>> Tony
>> #510
>> I don't know the "why" part as the film is far superior entertainment
>> than their music, in my opinion.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Yeah. But there isn't an ounce of theremin on it. It's
Bebe and Louis Barron using homemade circuits and
music conrete techniques with tape. There's plenty of
info (some of it from Bebe herself) on the internet
about it.

They had to call it 'electronic realizations" because
the union wouldn't have "music" played on machines
credited. The Barrons got blackballed in Hollywood
anyway.

mark


--- jeffc@... wrote:

> On Tue, 9 May 2006, tony wrote:
>
> > Klaatu is a man like being played by Michael
> Rennie is the 1951 sci fi
> > classic film "The Day the Earth Stood Still". Gort
> is his robot guardian
> > who scared the wits out of me as a kid. Rent it
> and watch the b/w
> > version, as colorizing isn't as satisfying. Get's
> back to the
> > imagination requirement. The Theramin is used
> extensively on the sound
> > track and Bernard Herrmann scored it. The movie
> inspired a band that
> > took the character's name (Klaatu) and made some
> music in the 70's.
>
>
> colorized? yech.
> [thank goodness ted turner shut down his colorizing
> factory years ago...]
>
> it's one of the best film scores amongst herrmann's
> great scores.
> i have the soundtrack cd at home someplace, probably
> next to the
> soundtrack to "forbidden planet" [early synthesizer
> experimentalism].
> the theremin adds just the right "otherworldly-ness"
> to the score.
> ...sort of the way a mellotron adds something when
> used just right.
>
> it's brilliant!
>
> ...jeff
>
>
>
> > http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/
> >
> > Tony
> > #510
> > I don't know the "why" part as the film is far
> superior entertainment than their music, in my
> opinion.
>

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From: NormLeete@...

To: mellotronists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:22 PM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Klaatu

In a message dated 09/05/2006 17:28:59 GMT Daylight Time, jeffc@... writes:

Theramin

Theremin, a great instrument. Built a few but now using a Big Briar one built by Bob Moog.

The sort of instrument that appeals to players of Mellotrons, I bet a few of you lot have got them...

Norm

Ken Leonard wrote:

>> Hmmm...
>>
>> Any Klaatu fans in here?
>>
>
> #1037 is!
>
> I have been in touch with George Bertok, musician from the Great
> White North -- http://www.myspace.com/bertokia -- he informed me that
> #1037 was one of two M400s played on Magentalane.
>

OK...just checked the official Klaatu web site at
http://www.klaatu.org/theinfo.html which gives all kinds of sociopathic
obsessive fan stuff, including multi-track info, and none of the tracks
that made up 'Magentalane' feature Mellotron at all, which isn't
surprising as I cannot recall hearing them use the instrument on
anything other than a handful of tracks on their first album.

--
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The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
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Me for sure, I am a big fan of Hope and 3:47 EST.

Best.

Ignacio Nieto Carvajal wrote:

> Me for sure, I am a big fan of Hope and 3:47 EST.
>

Me too...I've been listening to 'Hope' (both versions) a lot recently
and keep hearing moments like this...

http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/Hope%20%28Overdub%29.mp3

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