Mellotronists

It's a bit of a waste of time really. The early
Birotron sounds WERE Melltron sounds. Biro recorded
his own Pipe Organ (Wakeman at the controls) and his
own choir at the VERY end of their time. The loops
were made using to TEAC tape decks playing two
identical tape loops UPSIDE DOWN and 180 degrees out
of synch to avoid the loop point. Biro cross-faded
between the two machines to produce his eight track
masters. All of this is from Kean via the well worn
phone line. He interviewed Biro at length in
Jacksonville Fla in the early 90's. Facinating but SAD
story. Seems that Biro's fate was tied directly to
Wakeman's divorce...which left him momentarily
strapped for cash...which left Dave Biro out in the
cold. End of his glory years I guess. 

Mark.
--- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
> Sorry..but I can\ufffdt let this slip. Markus...Streetly
> boys ? Would it be possible to put Birotron sounds
> on a 400 tape frame ?
> Find a good startpoint on the loop and go go go ?
> And what sounds are available...I found woodwinds
> mentioned somewhere...but what does it mean ?
> 
> Or are these sounds not be heard by human ears ?
> 
> Mattias Olsson
> Roth H\ufffdndle Studios, Stockholm
> www.roth-handle.nu
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In a message dated 5/2/2005 8:37:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
easle12@... writes:

It's a  bit of a waste of time really. The early
Birotron sounds WERE Melltron  sounds. Biro recorded
his own Pipe Organ (Wakeman at the controls) and  his
own choir at the VERY end of their time. The loops
were made using  to TEAC tape decks playing two
identical tape loops UPSIDE DOWN and 180  degrees out
of synch to avoid the loop point. Biro cross-faded
between  the two machines to produce his eight track
masters. All of this is from  Kean via the well worn
phone line. He interviewed Biro at length  in
Jacksonville Fla in the early 90's. Facinating but SAD
story. Seems  that Biro's fate was tied directly to
Wakeman's divorce...which left him  momentarily
strapped for cash...which left Dave Biro out in the
cold.  End of his glory years I guess. 

Mark.



Very interesting, Mark.  Thanks for the info. I'd still like to hear  one.
 
Frank

Thanks Mark...!

Sad news indeed. I was hoping for a new source of crappy sounds...well well
guess I am stuck with my old ones...

BTW Does anyone around here have any of those weird eight track drum
machines that pop up now and then...Seems like a funkier cousin to the
Rhythmate...

// Mattias
----- Original Message ----- 

From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
To: "Mattias" <Mattias.olsson5@...>; <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Birotron dreams


> It's a bit of a waste of time really. The early
> Birotron sounds WERE Melltron sounds. Biro recorded
> his own Pipe Organ (Wakeman at the controls) and his
> own choir at the VERY end of their time. The loops
> were made using to TEAC tape decks playing two
> identical tape loops UPSIDE DOWN and 180 degrees out
> of synch to avoid the loop point. Biro cross-faded
> between the two machines to produce his eight track
> masters. All of this is from Kean via the well worn
> phone line. He interviewed Biro at length in
> Jacksonville Fla in the early 90's. Facinating but SAD
> story. Seems that Biro's fate was tied directly to
> Wakeman's divorce...which left him momentarily
> strapped for cash...which left Dave Biro out in the
> cold. End of his glory years I guess.
>
> Mark.
> --- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@...> wrote:
> > Sorry..but I can\ufffdt let this slip. Markus...Streetly
> > boys ? Would it be possible to put Birotron sounds
> > on a 400 tape frame ?
> > Find a good startpoint on the loop and go go go ?
> > And what sounds are available...I found woodwinds
> > mentioned somewhere...but what does it mean ?
> >
> > Or are these sounds not be heard by human ears ?
> >
> > Mattias Olsson
> > Roth H\ufffdndle Studios, Stockholm
> > www.roth-handle.nu
> >
> > Celestine - Blanc - Two times the trauma - Akaba -
> > Nanook of the North - Brigheye Brison - Devi -
> > Clockwork -Kit le fever - Andreas & Jag - \ufffdnglag\ufffdrd
> > - Freddie Wadling - Daniel Lemma - Pineforest Crunch
> > - Vijaya - Johan Moraeus
>
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Hi Mattias,
 
We have the Birotron loop masters here but they are a little sad.   There are 
some unique sounds including a string section, choir, church organ,  flute 
and brass.  I think I've already edited up the choir as we may have  all of the 
original takes unlooped.  They are recorded on 1" Ampex which  likes to clog 
the heads instantly but there are also some 1/4" loop  masters.  We could try 
conjuring up a set if you were interested.
 
Best,
 
Martin
 
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In a message dated 03/05/2005 09:33:21 GMT Standard Time,  
Mattias.olsson5@... writes:

BTW Does  anyone around here have any of those weird eight track drum
machines that  pop up now and then...Seems like a funkier cousin to  the
Rhythmate...


John has a brand new, in the box, never used Powerhouse Drum Machine  
complete with all the tapes.  It's for sale at the right price.
 
Best,
 
Martin
 
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I'm sending this again as it  doesn't appear to have been delivered.
 
Hi Mattias,

We have the Birotron loop masters here but they are a little sad.   There are 
some unique sounds including a string section, choir, church organ,  flute 
and brass.  I think I've already edited up the choir as we may have  all of the 
original takes unlooped.  They are recorded on 1" Ampex which  likes to clog 
the heads instantly but there are also some 1/4" loop  masters.  We could try 
conjuring up a set if you were interested.
 
Best,
 
Martin



STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
_www.mellotronics.com_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/) 

US  East Coast Agent - Jimmy Moore 
_JMoore6397_ (mailto:JMoore6397) @...
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