Mellotronists

Hi y'all,
I see The Muscial Box are touring the uk shortly. Does anyone 
know if they'll have a tron with then?
John
M300 #005

Good morning:

I've seen them 4 times already (one Lambs show, one Foxtrot, two Selling
England-- I'm going to see them this Friday in Philadelphia, PA, too) and
they never bought one.  They have a cabinet resembling one on stage;
however, their is a keyboard on top of it that they use the Mellotron and
Grand Piano (Firth of Fifth) samples on stage.  All the other instruments,
the Hammond, ARP ProSoloist, and RMI Electric Piano were authentic. I think,
as far as Mellotron sounds are concerned, he uses the Pinder Mellotron CD--
which sounded pretty damn good.

Since I'm going to see them this Friday, and they just replaced their
keyboardist.  Perhaps there is a chance that they will use one.  I'll let
you know.

Jimmy Pishock

-----Original Message-----
From: J.K.Beresford [mailto:j.k.beresford@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:37 AM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Mellotronists] Musical Box


Hi y'all,
I see The Muscial Box are touring the uk shortly. Does anyone 
know if they'll have a tron with then?
John
M300 #005


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Thanks Jimmy, they are doing the Selling England 73 show here in 
UK.
John

> Good morning:
> 
> I've seen them 4 times already (one Lambs show, one Foxtrot, two
> Selling England-- I'm going to see them this Friday in Philadelphia,
> PA, too) and they never bought one.  They have a cabinet resembling
> one on stage; however, their is a keyboard on top of it that they use
> the Mellotron and Grand Piano (Firth of Fifth) samples on stage.  All
> the other instruments, the Hammond, ARP ProSoloist, and RMI Electric
> Piano were authentic. I think, as far as Mellotron sounds are
> concerned, he uses the Pinder Mellotron CD-- which sounded pretty damn
> good.
> 
> Since I'm going to see them this Friday, and they just replaced their
> keyboardist.  Perhaps there is a chance that they will use one.  I'll
> let you know.
> 
> Jimmy Pishock
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J.K.Beresford [mailto:j.k.beresford@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:37 AM
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] Musical Box
> 
> 
> Hi y'all,
> I see The Muscial Box are touring the uk shortly. Does anyone 
> know if they'll have a tron with then?
> John
> M300 #005
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Hi all!

I got a chance to hear Musical Box this past weekend and I went with the
idea that, having seen Genesis during the original "Selling England by
the Pound" tour, I was going to be disappointed. Far from it, on this
occasion. Remembering that several people on this site thought that the
band was using sequencing in order to play the material, I was watching
very carefully.

From my observation point, they certainly seemed to be playing
everything that I heard coming out of the very fine sound system. I'm
pretty sure the singer was playing all the flute parts. Well, he was
playing the correct fingerings, so he's got the hard part down and I
assume he's figured out how to blow the damn thing. They have a new
keyboard player who was DEFINITELY playing the keyboard parts. The guy
in the audience who does the recreation of John Bradley, jumping up and
down and generally acting like an asshole, REALLY has that part down. I
had to look twice to be sure that it wasn't John...

All in all, the show brought back a lot of memories and I thought it was
really true to what Genesis had done all those years ago.

By sheer coincidence, Peter Gabriel is performing in town tonight
(Toronto), and in retrospect, I probably should have gone.

Rick B.

PS This is the first concert I've been to in living memory where I could
honestly say that it could have been louder. Since I'm usually
complaining the other way, this was a pleasant surprise. My only gripe
was that the mellotron parts (played on their faux m400) were a bit too
far back in the mix.

In a message dated 12/02/2002 8:18:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
rick@... writes:


> I got a chance to hear Musical Box this past weekend and I went with the
> idea that, having seen Genesis during the original "Selling England by
> the Pound" tour, I was going to be disappointed. Far from it, on this
> occasion. Remembering that several people on this site thought that the
> band was using sequencing in order to play the material, I was watching
> very carefully.
> 
> 

Sounds to me like Toronto has a very active live music scene.   The Musical 
Box and Peter Gabriel in the same week - I'm jealous.

Did anyone see a Mellotron on stage during the McCartney concert special on 
TV the other night? I thought that someone said he had a 'Tron with him 
during his U.S. tour this year.  With 16 semi trucks full of gear, he 
*should* have had one with him.
Maybe there will be a better shot on the DVD which was released last week.

Also, does anyone know what keyboard he has embedded in that multi-colored 
mock piano thing that he plays?  It looked like a Kurzweil.

Ken M

I can. And have! ;) You just need three things: the correct notes, a 
two-keyboard tron (although one and a good Hammond will do, I suppose) 
and a honkin good sound system.

And who cares if they have a real tron or a very good sampler (which it 
is)? When they do "Foxtrot" the samples have even been processed 
through a leslie speaker, just like Banks used. These guys can really 
do it. I saw Genesis do both shows and TMB nailed each of them when I 
saw them last. It really is like seeing Genesis. Even Gabriel said so 
when he saw them last year in London.

Alas, that they don't still have the massively talented Pierre Vielleux 
with them. THEN you'd have real trons onstage! The guy they have now 
(if it's the one with a shaved head) is quite good, though. He actually 
plays the parts more accurately than Banks ever could.

Rick

On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 04:45 AM, J.K.Beresford wrote:

> I agree they are good but when I saw them here in Sheffield earlier
> this year they didn't have a real tron. Just a white painted box made
> to look like a tron but with a sampler inside! He magically played
> flutes, violins. brass and choir without a tape frame change. Overall
> the thing sounded quite good but I have yet to see anyone get the
> intro to Watcher to sound anything like it's being played on some
> cheese box! Can any of you guys with the MkII's actually get that
> immense "Genesis Live" watcher sound?
> John
> M300#005