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Can't we all just get along???

Re: [Mellotronists] Can't we all just get along???

2004-02-19 by kathnrich

You're right, enough already. The TronBros. Have a global obligation
to be more professional and not use this forum at all for any past, present,
or future issues of the Mellotron. The Mellotron is ours, not theirs. They
have always been this way, and that is why I said , enough already.
     David Kean and that bunch are a good set of people. Personnal
experience. None of this bickering back and forth should be on this chat at
all. I'm done.
Rich,,,,,,,,,,

Re: [Mellotronists] Can't we all just get along???

2004-02-19 by tronbros@aol.com

In a message dated 19/2/04 10:02:15 PM GMT Standard Time, kathnrich@... 
writes:


>       You're right, enough already. The TronBros. Have a global obligation
> to be more professional and not use this forum at all for any past, present,
> or future issues of the Mellotron. The Mellotron is ours, not theirs. They
> have always been this way, and that is why I said , enough already.
>      David Kean and that bunch are a good set of people. Personnal
> experience. None of this bickering back and forth should be on this chat at
> all. I'm done.

Rich,

You continually miss the point.  We have no axe to grind and have recently 
stated so in terms of Markus.  However, the mellotron thing is dear to us and we 
have always strived to maintain the highest standards.  What we hate is the 
use of terms like ' the best' when the blindest of people can see that what's 
on offer is patently not so.  Whatever the deal (and sometimes prices are 
tight) you cannot put your name to something that is obviously shoddy.  What you 
and Mark do is resort to personal insults rather than deal with the issue.  If 
you and others are going to enjoy the mellotron revival which has to be funded 
and reinvested in (despite our low business standards, Rich), the the only way 
to go is for the best at all times.   The embarrasing thing here is that a 
picture has appeared that reveals to all a poor assessment of what is acce
ptable.  Putting a mellotron right is one thing, making the keyboard level pales by 
comparison and should be a prerequisite and never ignored.  A poor paint job 
will ruin the sales of an otherwise immaculate car.

AND STOP GETTING OVER EMOTIONAL!!!!!!.

Martin

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Re: [Mellotronists] Can't we all just get along???

2004-02-20 by Jerry Korb

charel196 wrote:

> Enough already!

  ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Holy Mud-Slinging , Batman!  I spent the day performing
semi-final test/debug on MK-II/134 , a real Pindertron
from the M-B .  And what's awaiting me at the email-inbox?
.....Sheesh !

It seems that there will always be irreconcilable differences
between  this side of the pond and the land where ALL
Mellotrons can trace  their origins.  This began with questioning
of  fit/finish on an M400 or two on eBay.  And then spiraled
down to name-calling and innuendoes.

As one who strives to do the BEST work possible,
for myself or for others, I'd never permit anything with
compromised appearance/function to leave the premises.
Any Tron I've worked on WILL be in better shape leaving
than arriving.  If requested not  to perform a full cosmetic
restoration due to time/cost constraints, then  mechanically
it HAS to perform dependably.

There will always be the "DK-camp" and the "Streetly-camp."
So be it.....Each has their unique following of models
and personnel.  But it lessens the community at-large
to force opinions   upon another,then unleash
a barrage  of personal attacks. Facts are facts,gang. I wouldn't
buy a  "p.o.s." for a high-price from anyone.....Anyone.
As long as the funds are still in my hand, I control the cards.

As Frank Stickle indicated, most anything can be fixed,
even warped keys (been there,done that too).
But words can damage more than what's fixable.
Let's all  return to our corners and consider this
latest round a draw...... (referee has spoken)

.......Jerry Korb (needs cosmetic restoration,but mech. fine )

Mellotron  lover /fixer at-large,  builder/designer of the JKMK6,
100% restoration of M400/681( my orig.),
M300/037 (formerly DK's),  MK-I/124 (formerly RAL's,
& Gordon Reid), and MK-II/134 Pindertron (prop. F.Samagaio)

Re: [Mellotronists] M400

2004-02-20 by J.K.Beresford

Here we go again!! Is there really any need for all this nastiness 
when the facts about this one tron were dubious as stated at best?
I go with Jerry on this. "there will always be a Streetly camp and a 
DK-camp" and it looks like there will always be bad feeling between 
them. I'm not really interested in all the bad history crap and I really 
wish the insults and name-calling could be kept private. The purpose 
of this list (I thought) was to provide a help and interest forum for 
people who are passionate about Mellotrons but if people want to 
sling mud at each other they should do it elsewhere. Regarding the 
two camps; I for one plan to sit in a place I can get the best service 
for my tron and at the moment that's right between the two. I have 
no experience of Dave or Markus's ability to quickly fix or provide 
technical info on M300's so I rely on JB for that and so far he's fixed 
electronic problems very swiftly. Also you can phone him seemingly 
at any time and he'll be very helpful.
However - I've just had some dealings with DK, I spoke to him on 
the phone recently. He is certainly still passionate about the 
Mellotron but does leave most things up to Markus these days 
because he too is fed up of the mud-slinging. - He could not have 
been more helpful and in a way that really he needn't have been. 
Thanks Dave (hopefully that will filter through to him).
So we have a choice of two main suppliers that you can use for 
different things mellotronic - that has to be a good thing!
John
M300/005

Re: [Mellotronists] Can't we all just get along???

2004-02-20 by John McIntyre

Jerry Korb wrote:

>
> Any Tron I've worked on WILL be in better shape leaving
> than arriving.
>
As I can attest.  Many thanks, Jerry, for the hours you spent working on 
my M400 at the Tronto Fest.

John McIntyre
mcintyre@...

Re: [Mellotronists] Can't we all just get along???

2004-02-20 by Ken Leonard

>As I can attest.  Many thanks, Jerry, for the hours you spent working on
>my M400 at the Tronto Fest.

...and for help with 1037 (http://www.kleonard.com/gear/1037/Default.htm) 
as well as the educational field trips past.  And future, I'm sure.  :-)

And to be fair and balanced, I've seen and played a Mark VI, and I think 
it's a great machine---consistent to play, cleanly built, nice upgrades 
such as the tube preamp.  I've seen pictures of Frank's work, and I'd swear 
the refinish work looks better than brand new (ask him to send you some 
pics).  The Streetly Boyz do solid work--I've seen examples of their 
dedication time after time (and now they have an arm in California, 
too).  I have parts and tapes from DK's shop as well as from the UK, and 
I'm grateful that both have them available.  The availability of those 
parts have helped #805 and will help bring #1037 back to playability.

I like the fact that many have contributed and continue to contribute to 
this community.  It benefits everyone.  Thanks for keepin' it alive, guys!

...kl...
M400 #805 - wants more play, not more parts
M400 #1037 - [may have more Jerry surgery soon]

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Can't we all just get along???

2007-11-18 by J.P.

Howdy friends...

It's with great sadness that I've discovered that Mike Dickson has been removed from our group.

Please reinstate him, Don.

I read through the postings that led up to his removal... and I really don't see the reason for this action. Granted, Mike has always had strong opinions... but that's a common thread with most everyone in this group, and frankly, that's what makes every posting so interesting.

In the past, I've "taken the piss" out of Mike (just check out my last two postings)... always with humor and respect... and I've been slammed by Mike in return... with, I believe the same amount of humor and respect. Mike has contributed a lot to this list over the years, and this group will be sadly diminished by his absence.

We've lost a lot of good people over the years due to disagreements that got out of hand, and sometimes, I wonder if we've forgotten the reason why we're here in the first place... our love of orchestral synthesis in general, and the Mellotron in particular.Why don't we just agree to disagree... and move on to more important matters.

I believe that we have a responsibility... not just to maintaining the Mellotron legacy... past, present, and future...but to influence the direction that orchestral synthesis takes in the digital keyboard world in future... especially after the comment that Martin and John made in the Sound on Sound review concerning the availability of raw tape... they figure they have enough tape for about 10 years... then what? It might be that the Mellotron legacy will have to survive as a digital keyboard from that point on... don't you think we should have some influence on what happens then... I do!

... Of course... if the Mayans are right... and the world comes to an end on 12/21/2012... the problem's rendered moot...

That's it... I'm done... everyone take care, and have a very Happy Thanksgiving!!!

J.P.

MicroTron 001 ... who wishes everyone on the list, and their families... a Happy Holiday Season!

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Re: Mike Dickson banned?!?

2007-11-19 by David Davis

WTF?!

Mike Dickson's sardonic missives are the best thing about this list!

Wise the bap!

DAVID