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Tron choir royalties?

Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-06 by charel196

Wonder what the NAMES are of those 8 people who did the recording for 
the tapes...some of them may actually be dead by now which would put 
them into an "immortalized" state on records.Gee....do those singers 
deserve royalties? Imagine every record their voices appeared on....

RE: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-06 by Pishock, Jimmy

Reminds me of a line in Chuck Palahniuk's novel "Lullaby"....
"Most of the laugh tracks on television were recorded in the early 1950s. These days, most of the people you hear laughing are dead."
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-----Original Message-----
From: charel196 [mailto:charel196@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:29 PM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

Wonder what the NAMES are of those 8 people who did the recording for
the tapes...some of them may actually be dead by now which would put
them into an "immortalized" state on records.Gee....do those singers
deserve royalties? Imagine every record their voices appeared on....


Re: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-07 by David Davis

that's quite profound!!!
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Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

Reminds me of a line in Chuck Palahniuk's novel "Lullaby"....
"Most of the laugh tracks on television were recorded in the early 1950s. These days, most of the people you hear laughing are dead."
-----Original Message-----
From: charel196 [mailto:charel196@...]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:29 PM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

Wonder what the NAMES are of those 8 people who did the recording for
the tapes...some of them may actually be dead by now which would put
them into an "immortalized" state on records.Gee....do those singers
deserve royalties? Imagine every record their voices appeared on....


Re: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-07 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 2/6/2004 4:38:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
charel196@... writes:
Wonder what the NAMES are of those 8 people who did the recording for 
the tapes...some of them may actually be dead by now which would put 
them into an "immortalized" state on records.Gee....do those singers 
deserve royalties? Imagine every record their voices appeared on....
I would imagine they were paid a flat rate for the session, as session 
musicians tend to get, with no royalties (and often no credit), just as Welk's 
musicians probably did on the Chamberlin sessions.  I don't think Ian McDonald gets 
a royalty when one of the "Ian McD Flute" tape sets sell, or Mike Dickson 
with his "Dickstrings", or Rick Blechta with his "French Horn 2".  JB?

Frank Samagaio
San Diego CA
MkII #134 / M400 #908
author, The Mellotron Book

Re: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-07 by tronbros@aol.com

In a message dated 7/2/04 3:33:19 AM GMT Standard Time, MAinPsych@... 
writes:


> .  I don't think Ian McDonald gets a royalty when one of the "Ian McD 
> Flute" 

Yes he does!
Streetly Electronics - all things MELLOTRONIC - click this link..........

US East Coast Agent: Jimmy Moore - JMoore6397@...

West Coast Service Agent:  Paul J Cox - pjc56@...

Re: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-07 by David Davis

In the EU however,
new laws came in at the end of the 1990s
which state that all this business of one-off session fees
was a bit of a rum deal, so the musicians ought to be
entitled to remuneration from public performance of the sound recordings.
So, these days, in the UK for instance, http://www.ppluk.com collect royalties from the public playing or broadcasting of sound recordings (ie radio stations etc have to pay a license fee), and only half these royalties go back to the owner of the sound recording (the "(P)" copyright owner listed on the record sleeve) - the other half go to the musicians.....
However, when the record company fills in the PPL database record listing who's on the recording, it would just say "Mr Keyboard Player: keyboards" - there'd be no individual listing of the 8 voices on the tron tape!
So no, they wouldn't get paid under the current arrangements,
not unless PPL change their "CatCo" database to include a special mellotron bit ;-)
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In a message dated 2/6/2004 4:38:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, charel196@... writes:
Wonder what the NAMES are of those 8 people who did the recording for
the tapes...some of them may actually be dead by now which would put
them into an "immortalized" state on records.Gee....do those singers
deserve royalties? Imagine every record their voices appeared on....
I would imagine they were paid a flat rate for the session, as session musicians tend to get, with no royalties (and often no credit), just as Welk's musicians probably did on the Chamberlin sessions. I don't think Ian McDonald gets a royalty when one of the "Ian McD Flute" tape sets sell, or Mike Dickson with his "Dickstrings", or Rick Blechta with his "French Horn 2". JB?
Frank Samagaio
San Diego CA
MkII #134 / M400 #908
author, The Mellotron Book

[Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-07 by tron@blackcat.demon.co.uk

> I don't think Ian McDonald gets a royalty when one of the "Ian McD
> Flute" tape sets sell

Yes he does.

> or Mike Dickson with his "Dickstrings"

I didn't record them. I just suggested the mix. It's 40% viola and 60%
M300A strings.

> Rick Blechta with his "French Horn 2".

Rick never gets the horn and hence never gets royalities.

Frank - sack your researcher.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

Re: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-07 by Rick Blechta

>> Rick Blechta with his "French Horn 2".
>
> Rick never gets the horn and hence never gets royalties.
>
Contrary to what Mike says, I do get royalties from Streetly for the 
French horn set. For each set sold they send me a photo of Mike 
Dickson. So far, I have a large box filled with these horrible things. 
Recently, to stem the tide, I have become actively involved encouraging 
people NOT to buy the French horn set, but still they do -- IN DROVES!

It is a horrible thing to contemplate. Please DO NOT buy my French horn 
recording from Streetly! Might I instead suggest the trumpet? It is 
really quite nice (especially that high F) and the outcome will be that 
Streetly will not send me yet ANOTHER photo of Mike Dickson. I have 
tried to toss them out, but even the garbage men won't take 'em. "Not 
in our truck, mate!" they say, and laugh at me as they drive off.

Rick

Re: [Mellotronists] Tron choir royalties?

2004-02-07 by Jerry Korb

Rick Blechta wrote:

> >> Rick Blechta with his "French Horn 2".
> >
> > Rick never gets the horn and hence never gets royalties.
> >
> Contrary to what Mike says, I do get royalties from Streetly for the
> French horn set. For each set sold they send me a photo of Mike
> Dickson. So far, I have a large box filled with these horrible things.
> Recently, to stem the tide, I have become actively involved encouraging
> people NOT to buy the French horn set, but still they do -- IN DROVES!
>
>
> Rick

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Greetings All,    Just a thought here.....

If you order Dickstrings from Streetly, do you get
a photo of Rick Blechta ??

What set of tapes does one need to order to get
a photo of  Martinge ??

Thinking(stinking) out loud again......JK

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