Mellotronists

I saw Yes yesterday night in Bonn/Germany. With Rick Wakeman at the
keyboards, they played mostly the classic tunes. They were in great form - a
fun concert.

I was somewhat disappointed though that Wakeman didn't use Mellotron sounds.
I wouldn't have expected to see a real Tron on stage but at least he could
have used a sampler to play the original sounds. Instead he used synthesized
sounds that were close, but only close, to Tron sounds. To me, the Mellotron
strings are an integral part of the magic of the classic Yes material. Rick
Wakeman doesn't seem to feel the same way. Oh well.

Now I'm looking forward to see the Musical Box who'll come to Germany in
October.

-Michael (# 000)

I saw Yes last week in the Hammersmith Odean (London)
and Wakeman was the worst thing there.

I mean I can cope with Jon Anderson dicking about between
songs like an overweight Keith Chegwin,
or Chris Squire punching the air like someone's dad
pretending to be a rock star, 
but Rick Wakeman murdering all the keyboard part using crap
digital preset sounds was more of a No than a Yes,
frankly.. 

 --- Michael Peters <mpeters@...> wrote: > I saw Yes
yesterday night in Bonn/Germany. With Rick
> Wakeman at the
> keyboards, they played mostly the classic tunes. They
> were in great form - a
> fun concert.
> 
> I was somewhat disappointed though that Wakeman didn't
> use Mellotron sounds.
> I wouldn't have expected to see a real Tron on stage but
> at least he could
> have used a sampler to play the original sounds. Instead
> he used synthesized
> sounds that were close, but only close, to Tron sounds.
> To me, the Mellotron
> strings are an integral part of the magic of the classic
> Yes material. Rick
> Wakeman doesn't seem to feel the same way. Oh well.
> 
> Now I'm looking forward to see the Musical Box who'll
> come to Germany in
> October.
> 
> -Michael (# 000)
> 

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>but Rick Wakeman murdering all the keyboard part using crap
>digital preset sounds was more of a No than a Yes

How do you know that they were presets (by which, I assume, you mean 
factory programmed patches)?

How do you know that Rick didn't programme the sounds himself?

How do you know that they were all generated digitally?

Why am I bothering to send this?

Why did I resubscribe to this forum?

Oh yes... and ...  correct me, but doesn't a Mellotron doesn't play 
preset sounds???

-----Original Message-----

From: Gordon Reid [mailto:gordon@...]
Sent: 09 July 2003 15:57
To: feline1@...; Michael Peters;
Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] yes tour


Gordon


>but Rick Wakeman murdering all the keyboard part using crap
>digital preset sounds was more of a No than a Yes

How do you know that they were presets (by which, I assume, you mean
factory programmed patches)?

How do you know that Rick didn't programme the sounds himself?

How do you know that they were all generated digitally?

Why am I bothering to send this?

Why did I resubscribe to this forum?

Oh yes... and ...  correct me, but doesn't a Mellotron doesn't play
preset sounds???


Why give the guy a hard time? Rick's keyboard sounds were (largely) crap,
although he was the star of the show. You know there's plenty of us who
aren't over-keen on the majority of modern
digital/sample-based/pseudo-analogue keyboard sounds - that's why we own
Mellotrons.

Andy T.
M400 #1145

'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'

http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/

Hello again,

Andy asked:

>Why give the guy a hard time? 

I didn't mean to. Well, not seriously. The problem with emails is that 
they never quite read back the way that they were written. The tongue in 
the cheek is rarely visible.

Then charel196 wrote...

>By the way,I highly 
>recommend Gordon Reid's ALIENS CD(nice one Gordon)

... to which I say "that's really nice, thanks", and start to feel even 
more guilty if I have upset anyone.

Finally, David wrote...

>Rick Wakeman has to make do with using 
>a Yamaha EMT10 live on stage is cos you have hoarded
>all the good analogue synths in the country 

... and I realise that I am well and truly hoist by own petard. Up until 
this point, I didn't even know that I had a petard. I will have it 
cleaned and put back in the wardrobe as soon as I get home.

Best to all,

Gordon.

Hello Fritz,

>You missed your anger management therapy session?

None needed. As I noted in a post a few days ago, tongues in cheeks do 
not transmit well over the net.

Gordon.

gordon,
  Sorry for the barbs.  I sent it beore I read the follow up post.  Lesson learned!  hope all is well

Peace,

Fritz