Mellotronists

Sorry Don,

There's lashings of MKII on Days of Future Passed.  It's awash with it.  Go 
back and check it out.

Best,

Martin

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Hello all, back after a lengthy absence/extended lurk (!), so am 
reintroducing myself to the list as another 'troniac from the UK  - 

I'm still trying to think what other pre-Strawberry Fields 'tron recordings 
there are, but one that springs to mind straight away is Manfred Mann's 
"Semi-Detached Suburban Mr James" which was released a couple of months 
before Strawberry Fields was recorded - lashings of MKII flute throughout and 
bass accordion towards the end.

Tony Swettenham
M400S # 581

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From: tonkev66@... [mailto:tonkev66@...]
Sent: 13 February 2003 19:46
To: mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Early recordings


Dear all

Apart from Graham Bond/Manfred Mann (including '66's 'As is' album), there's
'Tomorrow Never Knows' with some inaudible 'Tron in the 'swirly bit',
(allegedly) a Jan and Dean album from '66 called 'Save it for a Rainy Day',
though I'd be willing to bet it's Chamberlin, and an instrumental Kinks
outtake from '66's 'Face to Face' called 'Little Women'. As far as I know,
that is.  :-)

Andy T.
M400 #1145

'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'

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In a message dated 2/13/2003 3:57:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, MAinPsych writes:

> In a message dated 2/13/2003 2:30:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, tronbros writes:
> 
> > Sorry Don,
> > 
> > There's lashings of MKII on Days of Future Passed.  It's awash with it.  Go back and check it out.
 
The Moodies used the MkII in their post-Go Now, pre-Days recordings.  Check out the 'Prelude' CD for ample evidence of this.  If you listen closely, you'll notice Mike playing mostly single lines, sometimes two note lines, very few chords.  I assume that this is due to voltage/tuning problems, particularly in those earlier, unmodified m/c's.   Martin?
 
Days incorporated MkII on all band cuts:
Dawn is a Feeling - MkII violins (Station Two - Mike's mainstay)
Another Morning - Tenor Sax / MkII Violins (Station Two)
Peak Hour - Italian Accordion / Church Organ (Station Six)
Tuesday Afternoon - Tenor Sax / MkII Violins (Station Two)
Time to Get Away - MkII Violins / Tenor Sax (Station Two)
The Sunset - MkII Violins (Station Two) w/ orchestra strings overlaid
Twilight Time - MkII Strings (Station Two)
Nights in White Satin - MkII violins / MkII violins/MkII Brass mix (Station Two).  The flute is Ray (even a tron can't play that bad!).  And yes, tenor sax is correct.  I thought different until actually playing it on the MkII (and in my 
present rig of Pinder CD-ROM/sax and M400/3 violins).

Frank Samagaio
M400 #908

So perhaps a mind immeasurably superior to mine can answer this:  
Supposedly the first song that Pinder used the 'tron was "Love and 
Beauty" however, I have yet to identify the instrument that was the 
lead in the short solo section of "Boulevard de La Madeleine".  All 
the pre-Hayward/Lodge Moodies stuff featured the piano but this
sounds more like an organ and a very distorted one at that but even 
so, it doesn't sound quite like an organ....any thoughts?

FS. Weller

Hi All!
Where can one get this Strawb's DVD?????????
Robert Laughton



on 2/13/03 8:30 PM, chris.dale@... at chris.dale@... wrote:

Mellotron 'organ' would be my guess.
 
BTW - Was Graham Bond's "Baby It's True" recorded before Pinders' "Love And
Beauty"?
 
It certainly would be interesting to hear how often the tron was used as an
organ substitute before it became recognized for it's string sounds.
 

Chris 

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Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 7:34 PM
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Early recordings

So perhaps a mind immeasurably superior to mine can answer this:
Supposedly the first song that Pinder used the 'tron was "Love and
Beauty" however, I have yet to identify the instrument that was the
lead in the short solo section of "Boulevard de La Madeleine".  All
the pre-Hayward/Lodge Moodies stuff featured the piano but this
sounds more like an organ and a very distorted one at that but even
so, it doesn't sound quite like an organ....any thoughts?

FS. Weller


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In a message dated 2/13/03 4:34:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
capt_carbonarc@... writes:


> So perhaps a mind immeasurably superior to mine can answer this:  
> Supposedly the first song that Pinder used the 'tron was "Love and 
> Beauty" however, I have yet to identify the instrument that was the 
> lead in the short solo section of "Boulevard de La Madeleine".  All 
> the pre-Hayward/Lodge Moodies stuff featured the piano but this
> sounds more like an organ and a very distorted one at that but even 
> so, it doesn't sound quite like an organ....any thoughts?

Don't know about the first part, but let me offer this:  First, I realized I 
don't have a copy of "Boulevard" (how in hell did that happen?) so I can't 
give a direct opinion on what the solo instrument is.  I can tell you this 
(taken from the full transcript of my interview with Mr. Pinder) - The MkII 
was still a dream, a desire, a yen, an obsession with Mike at the time he 
re-formed the band, however, he did not actually acquire one until after the 
solidification of the Hayward-Lodge lineup), Moodies, MkII, and he did 
reference "Love and Beauty" as the first using one.  By that admission and 
timeline, it would appear that "Boulevard" is something other than Mellotron. 
 Perhaps there was one collecting dust in the corner of the studio at the 
time of the recording.  A memory lapse, perhaps?  Mike did say that no one 
kept track of these things back then, and who would ever think that after all 
these years there'd be a group of frustrated, wanna-be Pinder/Wakemans with 
OCD and schizotypal tendencies who desperately need to get a life asking such 
questions!  That shoots to hell the notion that there is a "mind immeasurable 
superior" within this group.

Frank Samagaio
M400 #908
author, The Mellotron Book

Hi y'all,
A possible contender for earliest recording of mellotron may be by 
a small-time band leader by the name of Graham Dalley. Graham's 
band "The Graham Dalley Dozen" was resident at a place called 
The Barn near Solihull, England. He was a young brilliantly talented 
musician (trumpet I think) and he was mad about the mellotron. He 
had a MKII at The Barn and used it to entertain the punters whilst 
they ate their chicken and chips between sets. He was responsible 
for 2 separate versions of the theme music to a radio show called 
"My Music" which he did on the MKII. He also released at least 
one album ("The sounds of 65" or something) which I have been 
trying to find as there is the possibility it may contain some of 
Grahams mellotron playing. I've also been trying to get hold of a 
recording of the My Music theme tune from the 60's from the Beeb 
but no luck yet - anyone remember this? Sadly Graham died of a 
heart-attack at the Barn one night in 1971 aged 41. His tron which I 
chased around a lot looking for probably returned to the music 
shop in Birmingham where he worked during the day. The thought 
is it was probably on long term loan as a promotion exercise.
Anybody know any other pub/club mellotron players? There must 
have been a few.
John
M300#005

Hi Philip,
Yeah Sounds International is the one not Sounds of 65. I was 
getting mixed up - I think thats Graham Bond isn't it. Might be 
interesting to get - on the other hand - might be crap!
Cheers
John

Date sent:      	Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:42:16 -0000

From:           	"Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
To:             	"J.K.Beresford" <j.k.beresford@...>
Subject:        	Re: Early recordings

> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "J.K.Beresford" 
> <j.k.beresford@s...> wrote:
> > Hi y'all,
> > A possible contender for earliest recording of mellotron may be by 
> > a small-time band leader by the name of Graham Dalley. Graham's 
> > band "The Graham Dalley Dozen" was resident at a place called 
> > The Barn near Solihull, England. He was a young brilliantly 
> talented 
> > musician (trumpet I think) and he was mad about the mellotron. He 
> > had a MKII at The Barn and used it to entertain the punters whilst 
> > they ate their chicken and chips between sets. He was responsible 
> > for 2 separate versions of the theme music to a radio show called 
> > "My Music" which he did on the MKII. He also released at least 
> > one album ("The sounds of 65" or something) which I have been 
> > trying to find as there is the possibility it may contain some of 
> > Grahams mellotron playing. I've also been trying to get hold of a 
> > recording of the My Music theme tune from the 60's from the Beeb 
> > but no luck yet - anyone remember this? Sadly Graham died of a 
> > heart-attack at the Barn one night in 1971 aged 41. 
> > John
> > M300#005
> 
> Hi there, 
> 
> I did a quick search on Google and came up with this. An album 
> called 'Sounds International' by the Graham Dalley Dozen for £10
> 
>               www.bside.co.uk/justintoday.htm - 80k 
> 
> There is also an album called 'At the Barn' from around the same time.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Philip.
>

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "J.K.Beresford" 
<j.k.beresford@s...> wrote:
> Hi Philip,
> Yeah Sounds International is the one not Sounds of 65. I was 
> getting mixed up - I think thats Graham Bond isn't it. Might be 
> interesting to get - on the other hand - might be crap!
> Cheers
> John
> 


Hello again!

I'm in serious anorak mode...  Graham Dalley also provided mellotron
(sound effects perhaps?)on some of the Goon shows from about 1967.

As for the music being crap, thats all part of the fun isn't it? But 
I reckon it's worth the risk, 'Sounds International' and 'At the 
Barn' might be a pleasant surprise and chock full of whacked out 
Mellotron.


Philip