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mellotron production.

2002-01-25 by Jeffrey Coulter

> Markus Resch wrote:
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> Well, well some people are very convinced about certain things.


<smug remark>
Well, well some people are rather confused regarding recent history.
</smug remark>


> I don't want to go through the details (delays from one of our suppliers)
> that caused the repeated delivery delay discussed here, all I can say is
> that it lays more than a year in the past and was solved in the end. I
> would
> also like to take the opportunity to thank the MKVI customers that had to
> wait, but had a bit more patience.


FACT: this incident was not over a year ago.

FACT: the refund check was not received until approx. may or june of 2001.
(i CAN get the exact date of the refund check if you insist on this.)

FACT: the details that you are reluctant to document are irrelevant in that:

FACT: lies were told.

FACT: you do not deny that these lies were told.

i must now wonder if we are even discussing the same machine at this point?
you freely admit that others had their deliveries delayed.


> Concerning the interesting dicussion about the word "fascism" I would
> suggest that one uses a proper English dictionary, like the Oxford English
> dictionary:
>
> "fascism": extreme right-wing dictatorial political system or views
> "fascist": person who supports fascism, extremely right-wing, reactionary
>
> The dictatorial aspect of the word is just one component, the "extremist
> right wing" connotation is extremely strong. Fascism is always associated
> with extremist right-wing views and a belief of the superiority of the
> strongest, therfore its close connection to racism. I find associations
> like
> this towards the moderator of our list very inappropriate (to say the
> least). Commuication on this list would benefit from a more civilized tone
> of language.


<off-topic waste of everyone's time>
i won't even comment on your attempt at twisting
this into a political discussion.
well... okay i changed my mind:
1) note the obvious, blatant and shameless "suck up" to the list moderator.
("to say the least")
2) there IS more than one definition of the word,
and MOST of them leave out the political rhetoric.
3) oh, and i particularly like your careless and authoritative
use of the word "always" above.
so you ARE and will ALWAYS be the authority on fascism?

please note how much time and effort has gone into the above rant,
yet no actual denial of the deceit that took place has been made.
</off-topic waste of everyone's time>


> Since David isn't on the list it is not appropriate to write allegations
> where the accused has no possibility of defending himself. I think we
> should
> leave it at that.


so dk is not on the list.
so because "the accused" declines to be present for some reason:
he is immune from any and all criticism?
yet, he is allowed only to be praised here?

yeah... fine...
we'll leave it at that, as long as you get in the last word, right.


> Best
>
> Markus


...and markus: please be more careful about replying.
you previously sent the above message to my private mailbox only.
i do not want or welcome your personal messages.
i'm sure that it was an innocent mistake, but please do not repeat it.
thank you.

don, i am sure you knew that i had no intent of calling you racist.
i merely took exception to your threat to ban streetly from the list,
and the reason why you threatened to do so.
if you did feel that was my intent, then i am truly sorry.
perhaps it WAS careless of me to use a word that CAN have further meaning.
anyone that knows or has met me could attest to the fact that i would
never imply such a thing, especially to someone that i do not know.
i DO still stand by all that i have said.

...sigh... i am tiring of all this very very quickly....
life is too short to "pick nits" about interpretations of completely
unrelated topics and dictionary preference. enough already...

jeff

Re: [Mellotronists] mellotron production.

2002-01-25 by Don Tillman

> From: Jeffrey Coulter <jeffc@...>
> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:47:14 -0500
>
> FACT: lies were told.

We don't know that. You haven't told us who this mystery person is,
he hasn't spoken up in his own behalf, and DK isn't here to talk about
it. It's all heresay. And disagreements between suppliers and
customers happen all the time; it's just not interesting.

> don, i am sure you knew that i had no intent of calling you
> racist. i merely took exception to your threat to ban streetly
> from the list, and the reason why you threatened to do so.

Really, I do not care or have any control over what people post here.
It is truly the opposite of fascism.

The only issue where I will use the "stark fist of removal" is where
someone abuses the list. If someone with a business uses this forum
for blatent advertisements or to say nasty things about the
competition, that's effectively hijacking the list for their business
gain, and it will get you thrown off most email lists. Same with
trolling, threats, spam, etc.

The one person I did throw off the list was a crazy woman who
threatened to sue most of us claiming that we were discriminating
against here because she was disabled, while none of us had any idea
what her disability was. I'm serious.

-- Don

--
Don Tillman
Palo Alto, California, USA
don@...
http://www.till.com

[Mellotronists] mellotron production.

2002-01-25 by tron@blackcat.demon.co.uk

> The one person I did throw off the list was a crazy woman who
> threatened to sue most of us claiming that we were discriminating
> against here because she was disabled, while none of us had any idea
> what her disability was.

I miss her.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/samples.htm

RE: [Mellotronists] mellotron production.

2002-01-26 by Andy Thompson

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Tillman [mailto:don@...]
Sent: 25 January 2002 06:25
To: jeffc@...
Cc: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] mellotron production.


The one person I did throw off the list was a crazy woman who
threatened to sue most of us claiming that we were discriminating
against here because she was disabled, while none of us had any idea
what her disability was. I'm serious.


Suffice to say that I doubt if it was physical. :-)

Andy T, being very un-PC
M400 #1145

http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/