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Regarding the amount of memory for a complete tape bank,the Pinder CD 
rom banks,with every note sampled full length,take up 12-16 meg in 
ram apiece.I have my E4K maxed out to 128 meg ram and a 3 gig HD to 
hold most of the disc.Seems to me the cost of rom/ram "should" be 
coming down as technology moves forward.How about having an even 
larger ram area and a CD rom drive to access the library? That way 
one could design their own banks...

Regarding the amount of memory for a complete tape bank,the Pinder CD 
rom banks,with every note sampled full length,take up 12-16 meg in 
ram apiece.I have my E4K maxed out to 128 meg ram and a 3 gig HD to 
hold most of the disc.Seems to me the cost of rom/ram "should" be 
coming down as technology moves forward.How about having an even 
larger ram area and a CD rom drive to access the library? That way 
one could design their own banks...

please correct me if i am wrong, but i think i recall the pinder
cdrom being sampled at 22.05 kHz ?

(i do not own it but would like to someday... where can i get
more info on this item? are they still available? who was it
that produced these? thanks in advance for any info...)

...jeff

On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, charel196 wrote:

> Regarding the amount of memory for a complete tape bank,the Pinder CD 
> rom banks,with every note sampled full length,take up 12-16 meg in 
> ram apiece.I have my E4K maxed out to 128 meg ram and a 3 gig HD to 
> hold most of the disc.Seems to me the cost of rom/ram "should" be 
> coming down as technology moves forward.How about having an even 
> larger ram area and a CD rom drive to access the library? That way 
> one could design their own banks...
> 
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> From: "charel196" <charel196@...>
   > Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:04:40 -0000
   > 
   > Regarding the amount of memory for a complete tape bank,the Pinder CD 
   > rom banks,with every note sampled full length,take up 12-16 meg in 
   > ram apiece.I have my E4K maxed out to 128 meg ram and a 3 gig HD to 
   > hold most of the disc.Seems to me the cost of rom/ram "should" be 
   > coming down as technology moves forward.

As much as I hate the idea of a digital Mellotron, I'll do the
honorable thing and point out that...

The price of memory has been dropping by roughly a factor of ten every
five years.  That translates to a factor of 100 every decade and a
factor of 10,000 every 20 years.  That rate has been remarkably
consistant since memory was first invented, maybe around 1945 or
thereabouts, and show no sign of changing.  (!!!)

And the price of RAM, ROM and disk have been tracking mighty closely,
so much so that the relationship between them hasn't really changed
since the 60's.  (Ie., we still use disks for files and virtual
memory.) 

Computer engineers know that if any approach is considered too costly
in the memory department, just wait a couple years and the problem
will be solved.

  -- Don

-- 
Don Tillman
Palo Alto, California, USA
don@...
http://www.till.com

On Tuesday, November 26, 2002, at 08:06  pm, Don Tillman wrote:

>> From: "charel196" <charel196@...>
>> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 16:04:40 -0000
>>
>> Regarding the amount of memory for a complete tape bank,the Pinder CD
>> rom banks,with every note sampled full length,take up 12-16 meg in
>> ram apiece.I have my E4K maxed out to 128 meg ram and a 3 gig HD to
>> hold most of the disc.Seems to me the cost of rom/ram "should" be
>> coming down as technology moves forward.
>
> As much as I hate the idea of a digital Mellotron, I'll do the
> honorable thing and point out that...
>
> The price of memory has been dropping by roughly a factor of ten every
> five years.  That translates to a factor of 100 every decade and a
> factor of 10,000 every 20 years.  That rate has been remarkably
> consistant since memory was first invented, maybe around 1945 or
> thereabouts, and show no sign of changing.  (!!!)
>
> And the price of RAM, ROM and disk have been tracking mighty closely,
> so much so that the relationship between them hasn't really changed
> since the 60's.  (Ie., we still use disks for files and virtual
> memory.)
>
> Computer engineers know that if any approach is considered too costly
> in the memory department, just wait a couple years and the problem
> will be solved.
>
>   -- Don

It's cheap already.... This email is being typed on an iMac with 512MB 
RAM and and an 80GB HD.... It was cheaper than my rebuilt M400!!.... 
Not as loved though!!

C

--- In Mellotronists@y..., Jeff Coulter <jeffc@n...> wrote:
> please correct me if i am wrong, but i think i recall the pinder
> cdrom being sampled at 22.05 kHz ?

pinder cdrom:
Each sound is a 16 meg bank in AKAI format. The disc works great (no 
tweaks required) on Akai, Kurzweil, E-Mu and Ensoniq ASR-10. (Does 
not work with Roland 700 series samplers). (Works with Sample Cell or 
Gigasampler software samplers as well).

See http://www.mellotron.com/cdlist.htm

Clay

Best Regards,

- Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: ceccles_ca [mailto:clay123@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 9:03 AM
To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re:amount of memory

--- In Mellotronists@y..., Jeff Coulter wrote:
> please correct me if i am wrong, but i think i recall the pinder
> cdrom being sampled at 22.05 kHz ?

pinder cdrom:
Each sound is a 16 meg bank in AKAI format. The disc works great (no
tweaks required) on Akai, Kurzweil, E-Mu and Ensoniq ASR-10. (Does
not work with Roland 700 series samplers). (Works with Sample Cell or
Gigasampler software samplers as well).

See http://www.mellotron.com/cdlist.htm

Clay





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