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Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by MAinPsych@aol.com

I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their entirety for the first time. Ok, Ok, so they're predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in the collection, but am I the only one on this list who thinks that they're aural fecal matter from start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?

Frank Samagaio
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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by Mark Pring

I'm not paying 36 cents to find out!

--- MAinPsych@... wrote:

> I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and
> Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from
> mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their
> entirety for the first time.? Ok, Ok, so they're
> predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in
> the collection, but am I the only one on this
> list?who thinks that they're aural fecal matter?from
> start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?
>
> Frank Samagaio
>
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Re: Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by Ken Leonard

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, MAinPsych@... wrote:
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>
> I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and Edgar Froese's
Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in
their entirety for the first time.? Ok, Ok, so they're predominantly
mellotron based and nice to have in the collection, but am I the only
one on this list?who thinks that they're aural fecal matter?from start
to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?

Haven't heard Neptune, but I'll be the first to agree that
Froese/Tangerine Dream is not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy the
"dry" EM stuff like "Epsilon", Node's "Node", and T Dream's "Rubycon".

Keep in mind that Froese "Tangentized" Epsilon---he added synth
noodlings to it using non-period synths and then re-released it, and
the original is no longer available. I haven't heard the results of
the noodlings, but I can only imagine. I don't know which version of
"Epsilon" you got, but you should check out the original if you can
dig it up. The original is nearly entirely Mellotron with some
synth/sequencer stuff (from period synths) thrown in here and there.
Dry, sparse, moody. But, perhaps, it'd still be "aural fecal matter"
in your mind---who knows.

My complaints are that "Epsilon" is too short, and it's the only album
like it I know. You may consider those to be a good things. :-)

...kl...
M400 #805 - sparse
M400 #1037 - moody

Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by Tony1

Well Flank, Edgar Froese and Tangerine Dream are the very reasons I bought and still have my trusty ARP 2600 and Mellotron M400 in 1974.
I have never heard the other band, so I can offer no opinion on their work.
Perhaps the fact that I started listening to T-Dream in 1973 makes me hear it differently than you do.
I will admit that I do not like everything that T-Dream and Froese's released, but I certainly have heard a lot of other newer releases/artist that leave me disinterested.
Of course this is just my opinion.
Tony
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Subject: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their entirety for the first time. Ok, Ok, so they're predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in the collection, but am I the only one on this list who thinks that they're aural fecal matter from start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?

Frank Samagaio

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by MAinPsych@aol.com

To clarify for both Tony and Ken L., I never meant to slight TD, in fact, around the same time, Phaedra was my first exposure to them as well as the soundtrack for "Sorcerer", with several of their albums in my collection. I can listen to those, find things that are musically interesting, and enjoy them. I was specifically referring to "Epsilon" and all the hoopla surrounding it (and the like). As with so many things discussed on this list, it's a matter of personal taste, and I make no attempt at denigrating anyone who has a different opinion of these recordings. For my personal tastes and opinion, the recordings specifically mentioned remain aural fecal matter.

Cheers,
Frank


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From: Tony1 <ferrarimanatm1@...>
To: MAinPsych@...; Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 6:49 pm
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

Well Flank, Edgar Froese and Tangerine Dream are the very reasons I bought and still have my trusty ARP 2600 and Mellotron M400 in 1974.
I have never heard the other band, so I can offer no opinion on their work.
Perhaps the fact that I started listening to T-Dream in 1973 makes me hear it differently than you do.
I will admit that I do not like everything that T-Dream and Froese's released, but I certainly have heard a lot of other newer releases/artist that leave me disinterested.
Of course this is just my opinion.
Tony
#510 and waiting for new tools
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their entirety for the first time. Ok, Ok, so they're predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in the collection, but am I the only one on this list who thinks that they're aural fecal matter from start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?

Frank Samagaio
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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by lsf5275@aol.com

In a message dated 11/5/2007 10:11:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MAinPsych@... writes:
For my personal tastes and opinion, the recordings specifically mentioned remain aural fecal matter.
OK so they sound like shit. Is that right? What's with this "aural fecal mater"crap. If you think it sounds like shit, you say... "This recording sound like shit to me... Does it sound like shit to you?"
or how about this:
"I was listening to it and it sounded somewhat "shit-like.""
"After a recent review in my listening room, I happened to notice that this recording sounded like Edgar Froese was passing a load of horse crap."
"Tangerine Dream lost it on this recording and released a load of pig vomit on vinyl... with some Mellotron on it."
While I mostly like Tangerine Dream, this particular recording sounded like the Pope was gargling penis."
How much easier could it be?
regards,
Dangerine Cream
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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by MAinPsych@aol.com

So as not to offend any suffering non-Catholics as well. It could have been described as sounding like geese farts on a muggy day...


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Sent: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

In a message dated 11/5/2007 10:11:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MAinPsych@aol. com writes:
For my personal tastes and opinion, the recordings specifically mentioned remain aural fecal matter.
OK so they sound like shit. Is that right? What's with this "aural fecal mater"crap. If you think it sounds like shit, you say... "This recording sound like shit to me... Does it sound like shit to you?"
or how about this:
"I was listening to it and it sounded somewhat "shit-like." "
"After a recent review in my listening room, I happened to notice that this recording sounded like Edgar Froese was passing a load of horse crap."
"Tangerine Dream lost it on this recording and released a load of pig vomit on vinyl... with some Mellotron on it."
While I mostly like Tangerine Dream, this particular recording sounded like the Pope was gargling penis."
How much easier could it be?
regards,
Dangerine Cream
PS: apologies to all you suffering Catholics



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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by Tony

You guys must be talking about a remix that I haven't heard.
The original still sounds good to me, but "Aqua" got the treatment and I still like it too.
I'm a lot of things, but subtle isn't one of them.
Tony
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Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

In a message dated 11/5/2007 10:11:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, MAinPsych@aol. com writes:
For my personal tastes and opinion, the recordings specifically mentioned remain aural fecal matter.
OK so they sound like shit. Is that right? What's with this "aural fecal mater"crap. If you think it sounds like shit, you say... "This recording sound like shit to me... Does it sound like shit to you?"
or how about this:
"I was listening to it and it sounded somewhat "shit-like." "
"After a recent review in my listening room, I happened to notice that this recording sounded like Edgar Froese was passing a load of horse crap."
"Tangerine Dream lost it on this recording and released a load of pig vomit on vinyl... with some Mellotron on it."
While I mostly like Tangerine Dream, this particular recording sounded like the Pope was gargling penis."
How much easier could it be?
regards,
Dangerine Cream
PS: apologies to all you suffering Catholics



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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by Str03@mindspring.com

Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale ............

I bought the original vinyl.

I'm talkin '80's here...

Background music...but some of it I actually liked - (the part that was used in the Carl Sagan's Cosmos series on TV)

From what I have heard, there was a remix that butchered the original (OK..I'm sure some of you wondered if it could get any worse)...and that original release fetches some hefty bucks (aural fecal and all).


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From: Mark Pring
Sent: Nov 5, 2007 9:02 PM
To: MAinPsych@..., mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

I'm not paying 36 cents to find out!

--- MAinPsych@aol. com wrote:

> I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and
> Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from
> mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their
> entirety for the first time.? Ok, Ok, so they're
> predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in
> the collection, but am I the only one on this
> list?who thinks that they're aural fecal matter?from
> start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?
>
> Frank Samagaio
>
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check
> out free AOL Mail! - http://mail. aol.com
>

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by Str03@mindspring.com

Yep...that's the one:

http://www.amazon.com/Epsilon-Malaysian-Pale-Edgar-Froese/dp/B000000HTB

$260....?

Warts and all.


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To: Mark Pring , MAinPsych@..., mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale ............

I bought the original vinyl.

I'm talkin '80's here...

Background music...but some of it I actually liked - (the part that was used in the Carl Sagan's Cosmos series on TV)

From what I have heard, there was a remix that butchered the original (OK..I'm sure some of you wondered if it could get any worse)...and that original release fetches some hefty bucks (aural fecal and all).


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pring
Sent: Nov 5, 2007 9:02 PM
To: MAinPsych@aol. com, mellotronists@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

I'm not paying 36 cents to find out!

--- MAinPsych@aol. com wrote:

> I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and
> Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from
> mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their
> entirety for the first time.? Ok, Ok, so they're
> predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in
> the collection, but am I the only one on this
> list?who thinks that they're aural fecal matter?from
> start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?
>
> Frank Samagaio
>
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check
> out free AOL Mail! - http://mail. aol.com
>

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by NormLeete@aol.com

In a message dated 06/11/2007 02:49:37 GMT Standard Time, ferrarimanatm1@... writes:
Edgar Froese and Tangerine Dream are the very reasons I bought and still have my trusty ARP 2600 and Mellotron M400 in 1974.
Me too (although I stupidly sold the 2600 a few years ago). Its a good thing that we all have different tastes or else it would be a very boring world.
Norm

Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-06 by Tony1

Isn't that the truth!
Snapped up a super clean another 2600 off eBay recently, another set of Moog Taurus 1 pedals back (the real ones like I stupidly sold too).
Can't seem to come to grips with my Synthis so I bought an Oberheim analog sequencer just to pop out the notes to "on the run" by the Floyd, right Norm?
Poor guy has been helping me out in a tireless manner (thank you kindly sir)!
Tony
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In a message dated 06/11/2007 02:49:37 GMT Standard Time, ferrarimanatm1@ verizon.net writes:
Edgar Froese and Tangerine Dream are the very reasons I bought and still have my trusty ARP 2600 and Mellotron M400 in 1974.
Me too (although I stupidly sold the 2600 a few years ago). Its a good thing that we all have different tastes or else it would be a very boring world.
Norm

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-07 by tony1


Better check that out because Vangelis was responsible for all of the Cosmos music that I know of.
I have been a fan of his since before that series aired, own the series and without checking the credits right now I'm 99% sure the Greek did most of the music, and nicely at that too!
Tony
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From: Str03@...
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Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale ............

I bought the original vinyl.

I'm talkin '80's here...

Background music...but some of it I actually liked - (the part that was used in the Carl Sagan's Cosmos series on TV)

From what I have heard, there was a remix that butchered the original (OK..I'm sure some of you wondered if it could get any worse)...and that original release fetches some hefty bucks (aural fecal and all).


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pring
Sent: Nov 5, 2007 9:02 PM
To: MAinPsych@aol. com, mellotronists@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

I'm not paying 36 cents to find out!

--- MAinPsych@aol. com wrote:

> I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and
> Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from
> mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their
> entirety for the first time.? Ok, Ok, so they're
> predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in
> the collection, but am I the only one on this
> list?who thinks that they're aural fecal matter?from
> start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?
>
> Frank Samagaio
>
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check
> out free AOL Mail! - http://mail. aol.com
>

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-07 by jeffc@netaxs.com

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, tony1 wrote:

> Better check that out because Vangelis was responsible for all of the Cosmos music that I know of.
> I have been a fan of his since before that series aired, own the series and without checking the credits right now I'm 99% sure the Greek did most of the music, and nicely at that too!
>
> Tony
> #510
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Music-Cosmos-Selections-Score-Television/dp/B00004WFPW


just to clear things up...
MOST of the music from cosmos is/was indeed vangelis, but not all of it,
and i would just say perhaps a slight majority. and the vangelis that was
used came from his existing catalogue - it was not composed FOR the series...
i know some heldon was used, some eno, and i think some teddy lasry, plus
some things that i probably just can't recall at the moment.

i did watch the entire series about 6 months ago after renting it via netflix.

aha - someone has done ALL the homework for us:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/cosmic_voyager/

...jeff

Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

2007-11-07 by Str03@mindspring.com

I'm 99% sure the Greek did most of the music, and nicely at that too!

------------------------------------------

I’m glad you said “most” of the music..........

You won’t get an argument from me that most of the music from the Cosmos series was Vangelis.

There was one piece in the TV series that stood out and I couldn't find it on any Vangelis album.

I’m not a musician but I have a good ear, and I know Vangelis – and have his stuff as well.

While most people were disco dancing - I spent most of my time at the electronic/”New Age” records bins, sometimes searching until I found what I was looking for - often after hearing just the piece of a track on the radio...

The particular sounds I’m referring to are indeed on the Malaysian Pale album because I looked high and low until I found it.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sufficiently interested enough now to pull that vinyl and search for that track...(think “whale sounds” because that’s why I bought this album..." Marouba Bay" caught my eye, or ear .....I'll see if I can dig it up...unless Frank beats me to it.




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Better check that out because Vangelis was responsible for all of the Cosmos music that I know of.
I have been a fan of his since before that series aired, own the series and without checking the credits right now I'm 99% sure the Greek did most of the music, and nicely at that too!
Tony
#510
----- Original Message -----
From: Str03@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale ............

I bought the original vinyl.

I'm talkin '80's here...

Background music...but some of it I actually liked - (the part that was used in the Carl Sagan's Cosmos series on TV)

From what I have heard, there was a remix that butchered the original (OK..I'm sure some of you wondered if it could get any worse)...and that original release fetches some hefty bucks (aural fecal and all).


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pring
Sent: Nov 5, 2007 9:02 PM
To: MAinPsych@aol. com, mellotronists@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron dominated recordings

I'm not paying 36 cents to find out!

--- MAinPsych@aol. com wrote:

> I just recently downloaded Celluloid's Neptune and
> Edgar Froese's Ypsilon In Malaysian Pale from
> mp3fiesta.com, and listened to them in their
> entirety for the first time.? Ok, Ok, so they're
> predominantly mellotron based and nice to have in
> the collection, but am I the only one on this
> list?who thinks that they're aural fecal matter?from
> start to finish (including the abysmal The Pillory)?
>
> Frank Samagaio
>
____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check
> out free AOL Mail! - http://mail. aol.com
>

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