Mellotronists

[thanks in advance folks]

i have recently picked up a couple lexicon effects units on ebay
for some decent prices. a reflex and an mpx-100. i've had an lxp-1
for years and have been very pleased with it, particularly as a
reverb unit - amazing for the price.

i have had the lxp-1 on my main console effects bus for years,
with no level problems at all. i have also used it as an insert
effect, again with no level problems.

but... both the reflex and mpx-100 are giving me fits when used
as insert effects from a mackie i use as a sub-mixer. they seem
to be expecting a guitar level signal, and i can barely use the
input knob at all to control the input level. turning it just a
tiny tiny bit causes the input level to overload. the input i also
too hot when used on the effects bus - again, it seems like it's
looking for a guitar level signal :(

so i have a really stupid question:
what can i use to "pad" the input signal so it doesn't overload
the inputs? [keep in mind that i use these 'stero-in/stero-out'
so i would probably need 4 of whatever i'll need]

is there some simple way to match these levels?

would i have to change the values of the input level pots?

my old delay units have level pad switches to fix this problem.
the lexicons have no pads - just the input level knobs.

thanks again in advance.
jeff

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, jeffc@... wrote:
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> [thanks in advance folks]
> 
> i have recently picked up a couple lexicon effects units on ebay
> for some decent prices. a reflex and an mpx-100. i've had an lxp-1
> for years and have been very pleased with it, particularly as a
> reverb unit - amazing for the price.
> 
> i have had the lxp-1 on my main console effects bus for years,
> with no level problems at all. i have also used it as an insert
> effect, again with no level problems.
> 
> but... both the reflex and mpx-100 are giving me fits when used
> as insert effects from a mackie i use as a sub-mixer. they seem
> to be expecting a guitar level signal, and i can barely use the
> input knob at all to control the input level. turning it just a
> tiny tiny bit causes the input level to overload. the input i also
> too hot when used on the effects bus - again, it seems like it's
> looking for a guitar level signal :(
> 
> so i have a really stupid question:
> what can i use to "pad" the input signal so it doesn't overload
> the inputs? [keep in mind that i use these 'stero-in/stero-out'
> so i would probably need 4 of whatever i'll need]
> 
> is there some simple way to match these levels?
> 
> would i have to change the values of the input level pots?
> 
> my old delay units have level pad switches to fix this problem.
> the lexicons have no pads - just the input level knobs.
> 
> thanks again in advance.
> jeff
>

RE:

  Hi Jeff,  You need a signal attenuator at your effects input.  
Does your mackie have a "level trimpot?" I have the Mackie 12 and 4 
channels have control of the gain in.  If not, check your music 
store or the Shack for line attenuators and your problem is 
solved..Doug

There should be input step pads near the mic inputs spme have a 4 way
switch  -20, +10 , 600 ohms plus a trimpot, some just a switch.

gino

On 6/24/07, jeffc@... <jeffc@...> wrote:
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>  [thanks in advance folks]
>
>  i have recently picked up a couple lexicon effects units on ebay
>  for some decent prices. a reflex and an mpx-100. i've had an lxp-1
>  for years and have been very pleased with it, particularly as a
>  reverb unit - amazing for the price.
>
>  i have had the lxp-1 on my main console effects bus for years,
>  with no level problems at all. i have also used it as an insert
>  effect, again with no level problems.
>
>  but... both the reflex and mpx-100 are giving me fits when used
>  as insert effects from a mackie i use as a sub-mixer. they seem
>  to be expecting a guitar level signal, and i can barely use the
>  input knob at all to control the input level. turning it just a
>  tiny tiny bit causes the input level to overload. the input i also
>  too hot when used on the effects bus - again, it seems like it's
>  looking for a guitar level signal :(
>
>  so i have a really stupid question:
>  what can i use to "pad" the input signal so it doesn't overload
>  the inputs? [keep in mind that i use these 'stero-in/stero-out'
>  so i would probably need 4 of whatever i'll need]
>
>  is there some simple way to match these levels?
>
>  would i have to change the values of the input level pots?
>
>  my old delay units have level pad switches to fix this problem.
>  the lexicons have no pads - just the input level knobs.
>
>  thanks again in advance.
>  jeff
>