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Amazing Yes!

Amazing Yes!

2002-08-01 by ceccles_ca

Yes got off to a rough start last night in Toronto.  The sound was 
muddy for the first half hour.  As the sound gradually improved, the 
band tightened up and took off!  The high point of the show for me was
the 16 minute "Awaken" from Going For The One.  This track is quite 
an amazing composition, and they performed it very, very well.  The 
Church Organ and Choir near the end was ___________.  (fill in 
superlative(s)...Something of the highest possible excellence.  
Something even Martin would like).  

Rick's Mellotron samples seemed to be layered with other modern 
string and choir samples.  The 'tron parts sounded a bit sterile, (I 
like dirt!) but it was all performed well.  It was nice to hear him 
using a mini moog.  It was also nice to see that he wasn't afraid to 
be seen with his reading glasses, a music stand and sheet music.  
(...for some of the tunes he's not too familiar with).

Other highlights:
Heart of the Sunrise - What a band!
Excerpt - And You And I - Great new arrangement!
Rick's keyboard solo - He is still a wizard and he has a new bag of 
tricks (Korg Triton)
Long Distance Runaround - I had forgotten...What a great tune!
Yours Is No Disgrace - Same old arrangement - Performed flawlessly.

...and the legendary Devotion keyboardist, Rick Blechta was sitting 
right next to me.  It was a great evening wasn't it Rick!

Re: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-01 by William Gagliani

Coming out of lurk mode to echo this!

I saw Yes in Chicago last week, and they were superb. Even got a good 
review at the Chicago Tribune's website!

Unfortunately, Awaken was nearly ruined for me by a foursome who stood 
below me in the aisle (we were in a box) and kept up a constant stream of 
drunken, inane chatter. Until I blew up and screamed at them repeatedly to 
shut up or I'd kill them (or so I'm told ... I was nearly psychotic by 
then), that all I wanted was for them to shut up. All this in the center of 
the piece, during Rick's wonderful organ part. I was trembling with rage 
throughout the rest of the show, sad to say.

Why do people go to shows to chatter like idiots?

Anyway, great show, even if (as usual) the audience needs lessons in etiquette.

I don't usually spout here, but I was compelled...

Bill

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At 03:56 PM 8/1/2002 +0000, you wrote:
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>Yes got off to a rough start last night in Toronto.  The sound was
>muddy for the first half hour.  As the sound gradually improved, the
>band tightened up and took off!  The high point of the show for me was
>the 16 minute "Awaken" from Going For The One.  This track is quite
>an amazing composition, and they performed it very, very well.  The
>Church Organ and Choir near the end was ___________.  (fill in
>superlative(s)...Something of the highest possible excellence.
>Something even Martin would like).
>
>Rick's Mellotron samples seemed to be layered with other modern
>string and choir samples.  The 'tron parts sounded a bit sterile, (I
>like dirt!) but it was all performed well.  It was nice to hear him
>using a mini moog.  It was also nice to see that he wasn't afraid to
>be seen with his reading glasses, a music stand and sheet music.
>(...for some of the tunes he's not too familiar with).
>
>Other highlights:
>Heart of the Sunrise - What a band!
>Excerpt - And You And I - Great new arrangement!
>Rick's keyboard solo - He is still a wizard and he has a new bag of
>tricks (Korg Triton)
>Long Distance Runaround - I had forgotten...What a great tune!
>Yours Is No Disgrace - Same old arrangement - Performed flawlessly.
>
>...and the legendary Devotion keyboardist, Rick Blechta was sitting
>right next to me.  It was a great evening wasn't it Rick!

Re: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-01 by sdavmor

>Coming out of lurk mode to echo this!
>
>I saw Yes in Chicago last week, and they were superb. Even got a good
>review at the Chicago Tribune's website!
>
>Unfortunately, Awaken was nearly ruined for me by a foursome who stood
>below me in the aisle (we were in a box) and kept up a constant stream of
>drunken, inane chatter. Until I blew up and screamed at them repeatedly to
>shut up or I'd kill them (or so I'm told ... I was nearly psychotic by
then),
>that all I wanted was for them to shut up. All this in the center of the
piece,
>during Rick's wonderful organ part. I was trembling with rage throughout
the
>rest of the show, sad to say.
>
>Why do people go to shows to chatter like idiots?
>
>Anyway, great show, even if (as usual) the audience needs lessons in
etiquette.
>
>I don't usually spout here, but I was compelled...
>
>Bill

I coined a term for such annoying folks a few years back when cleaning up in
the audience live recordings for fellow Jethro Tull fanatics.  The
despicable foursome are "audience hyenas".

Decent review of Yes in the Chicago Tribune.  Thanks for the headsup.
--
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
www.systemstheory.net internet music project
www.thecleanersystem.com software for dry cleaners
NP: nothing

Re: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-01 by JS

Gosh, around here we just call them "dickheads" -

Jon E Salley
MiloJohnson@...
M400 #886


> I coined a term for such annoying folks a few years back when cleaning up
in
> the audience live recordings for fellow Jethro Tull fanatics.  The
> despicable foursome are "audience hyenas".

Re: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-01 by sdavmor

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> Gosh, around here we just call them "dickheads" -
> 
> Jon E Salley
> MiloJohnson@...
> M400 #886

"audience hyena dickheads" :-)
-- 
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
www.systemstheory.net internet music project
www.thecleanersystem.com software for dry cleaners
NP: Babe Ruth "Babe Ruth/Stealin' Home" (remaster 2fer1, great package)

Re: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-01 by William Gagliani

LOL

I had quite a few names for them, too, especially since Awaken is 
arguably my favorite Yessong and they chose that very time to escalate.

Honestly, I wish they wouldn't sell alcohol at concerts. Too many weak 
people. I mean, I've never met a lager I didn't like, but I ALWAYS do 
ALL my drinking after the show....

Bill
www.authorsden.com/williamdgagliani


----- Original Message -----
From: "sdavmor" <sdavmor@...>
Date: Thursday, August 1, 2002 3:37 pm
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> I coined a term for such annoying folks a few years back when 
> cleaning up in
> the audience live recordings for fellow Jethro Tull fanatics.  The
> despicable foursome are "audience hyenas".
> 
> Decent review of Yes in the Chicago Tribune.  Thanks for the headsup.
> --
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> www.systemstheory.net internet music project
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Re: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-01 by William Gagliani

That's almost giving them too much credit, if you know what I mean! :-)

Still, my volatility could have gotten me thrown out -- I'm sure THEIR 
stories will be full of the "fat a**hole who yelled at them and scared 
them with his threats" or some such nonsense.

Bill
www.authorsden.com/williamdgagliani

----- Original Message -----
From: "JS" <jonesalley@...>
Date: Thursday, August 1, 2002 5:11 pm
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> Gosh, around here we just call them "dickheads" -
> 
> Jon E Salley
> MiloJohnson@...
> M400 #886
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> 
> > I coined a term for such annoying folks a few years back when 
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> > the audience live recordings for fellow Jethro Tull fanatics.  The
> > despicable foursome are "audience hyenas".
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Re: Amazing Yes!

2002-08-02 by ceccles_ca

--- In Mellotronists@y..., William Gagliani <w.gagliani@m...> wrote:
"....Awaken is arguably my favorite Yessong..."

I overlooked this track from 1977 till 1997.  It had very little 
impact on me when I heard it the 1st or 2nd time.  20 years later, I 
listened a 3rd time.  (Wow!!!)  I wonder now if there was anything 
else I missed.

Clay

Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Amazing Yes!

2002-08-02 by William Gagliani

Actually I feel Tormato gets a bad rap! Madrigal is very nice, and Onward 
Through the Night is as well. A couple other songs in there are more than 
adequate, though the whole recording is quite trebly. And I never could 
quite get aboard the whole Circus of Heaven thing...

But Awaken has only gotten deeper and more meaningful for me over the 
years. It's the pipe organ that did it for me.

Sorry for the non-Tron content (though I've wondered if there was a lot of 
Tron on Going for the One ... I had the Keyboard Magazine interview in 
which Rick talked at length about those sessions, but I've long since 
misplaced it).

Bill
www.authorsden.com/williamdgagliani



At 01:47 AM 8/2/2002 +0000, you wrote:
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>--- In Mellotronists@y..., William Gagliani <w.gagliani@m...> wrote:
>"....Awaken is arguably my favorite Yessong..."
>
>I overlooked this track from 1977 till 1997.  It had very little
>impact on me when I heard it the 1st or 2nd time.  20 years later, I
>listened a 3rd time.  (Wow!!!)  I wonder now if there was anything
>else I missed.
>
>Clay

Re: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-03 by Rick Blechta

Hi all!

Clay is correct when he says that Yes played very well. Not having seen
them in quite a long time, I was surprised at how much fun they were
having (how many times can anyone play 'Roundabout' and still get
off?)--especially Wake Rickman, who has often looked sullen at times in
the past. They worked hard, played well and tried to give us a good
performance.

I say 'tried' because I don't know who their sound man was, but he
should be put in a small, dark room for two or three weeks and forced to
listen to Martinge sing the entire Jerry Vale repertoire. Now call me
old-fashioned, but I don't believe the kick drum has become the most
important part of a kit, to be miked at twice the volume of the rest of
the drummer's arsenal, and certainly shouldn't be the loudest thing
coming off the stage. The guy doing the mix probably is one of those
bozos who pulls up next to you at a light and has 200 watts of
sub-woofer in the back of his hatch back--all the better to share his
music with everyone in the surrounding three square miles.

The next most important thing in a band is the bass player's low E
string. The sound system must be EQ'ed to make this string be twice as
loud as the rest of the instrument--let alone the rest of the band. Of
course, this much bass makes it nearly impossible to hear most of the
keyboards and especially any nuance of the sounds Wakeman was using.

Also, if you're touring with a band, DON'T be familiar with any of their
material if you can help it. After all, a sound man is an 'artist' too
and should be allowed to express himself in his own way. The other
night, the best mix of the evening was 'Roundabout'. Small wonder. If
you know any Yes song, it would probably be this one.

I hate to sound like a killjoy and like I didn't enjoy the concert. I
did. A lot. But I have also come to expect too much, it seems, since a
couple of other people who attended the gig have told me that what I
heard seems to be the norm. Yes used to have TERRIFIC sound. The Molson
Amphitheatre is a good-sounding venue with an excellent sound system,
but you still need someone who knows how to twiddle the knobs and also
who knows the music well enough to realize who should be where in the
mix. Where's Eddy Offord when you need him?

I have an idea that the guys on the stage weren't hearing what we were.
As stated above, they were having a good time and playing very well. I'd
love to sit down with them and make it clear what their front-of-house
sound is really like. I'm sure
Messrs Anderson, Howe, Squire, White and Wakeman would be appalled at
what was done to all their hard work.

Also, it's nice to have become legendary, Clay. Thanks! It was a good
concert. It could have easily been a GREAT concert. Sigh...

If they're coming to a town near you, I would definitely recommend
seeing the show. Maybe they will have fired the sound guy by then. It's
great to see Wake Rickman back with the band and seeming to enjoy
himself so much. Hearing 'South Side of the Sky' and 'Heart of the
Sunrise' again was an added treat.

Now if only they'd played all of 'Topographic Oceans' and Martinge had
been there with us to marvel at its awesome beauty and majesty...

Cheers!

Rick



ceccles_ca wrote:
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>  Yes got off to a rough start last night in Toronto.  The sound was
> muddy for the first half hour.  As the sound gradually improved, the
> band tightened up and took off!  The high point of the show for me was
>
> the 16 minute "Awaken" from Going For The One.  This track is quite
> an amazing composition, and they performed it very, very well.  The
> Church Organ and Choir near the end was ___________.  (fill in
> superlative(s)...Something of the highest possible excellence.
> Something even Martin would like).
>
> Rick's Mellotron samples seemed to be layered with other modern
> string and choir samples.  The 'tron parts sounded a bit sterile, (I
> like dirt!) but it was all performed well.  It was nice to hear him
> using a mini moog.  It was also nice to see that he wasn't afraid to
> be seen with his reading glasses, a music stand and sheet music.
> (...for some of the tunes he's not too familiar with).
>
> Other highlights:
> Heart of the Sunrise - What a band!
> Excerpt - And You And I - Great new arrangement!
> Rick's keyboard solo - He is still a wizard and he has a new bag of
> tricks (Korg Triton)
> Long Distance Runaround - I had forgotten...What a great tune!
> Yours Is No Disgrace - Same old arrangement - Performed flawlessly.
>
> ...and the legendary Devotion keyboardist, Rick Blechta was sitting
> right next to me.  It was a great evening wasn't it Rick!

[Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-03 by tron@blackcat.demon.co.uk

> I have yet to hear a decent sounding stage rig.  Despite the garbage
> written about the amazing Turbo sound systems etc etc, there always
> appears to be a twat on the desk who completely screws it for everyone.

Yeah. We all say the same thing about Mellotron tapes.  :-)

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

RE: [Mellotronists] Amazing Yes!

2002-08-04 by Wy Mar-Ren

I'm hoping to see them in West Palm Beach, a week from today.
	Phil

"It's just a fun thing.  It's just two guys- instead of  watching a football
game and drinking chilled beverages...we're painting boxes."
Frank B.

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