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Re: [Mellotronists] Mike and Greaeme Re: Pinder solo

Re: [Mellotronists] Mike and Greaeme Re: Pinder solo

2007-01-12 by JAMES STRAUSS

"Mind you, Graeme Edge took the piss out of him by going through the exact
same spiritual changes -but exactly a month behind Mike (he told me
so himself)."
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Who told you.........................
Mike or Graeme?
Could be.
As Mike told Graeme while he was working out a song with Justin..."shut up, you're only the drummer!".
7:20 into the interview.....

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> > One of these days I may be able to see what everyone else sees in the
> > Moodies in general or Pinder in particular.

Well, it was THAT sound; supposedly on early Melly powered gigs,
audiences were looking into the wings to try and spot the hidden
string section! (it was 1966 after all, and we were all much more
naive then).
Then in the summer of love, when everything was truly cosmic (man),
the Moodies managed to typify the vibe of, like really getting down
with the UNIVERSE, and getting away from the heavy shit of the
straights who weren't tuned in and turned on, like, wow, heavy shit,
man... (continues for four hours).
I'll admit it- I bought Moodies albums! I still have them (vinyl,
natch) and for the time they were very influential on my cranium. And
Mr. Pinder always hinted at having had a glimpse of something more
-probably under the influence of something or other- that made you
listen very hard to his lyrics and decide that there as more to life
than every day humdrum stuff.
I never did the drugs myself, coming across too many acid casualties
with fried brains in the music world.
So Mike Pinder for many voiced the spiritual questioning that many
folks in the late 60s -and ever since -felt within themselves. Mind
you, Graeme Edge took the piss out of him by going through the exact
same spiritual changes -but exactly a month behind Mike (he told me
so himself).
Anyway, it's a lot more worthy than songs about 'White Riots' sung by
punks who are really as much middle class ponces as the rest of us.
And the Moodies are still in existence and gigging, unlike all the
'futures of rock' that were supposed to supplant them.
If ya wanna grow old gracefully, join a Cosmic Rock band........ or a prog one.

Dave.

Re: [Mellotronists] Mike and Greaeme Re: Pinder solo

2007-01-12 by d.etheridge1@ntlworld.com

"Mind you, Graeme Edge took the piss out of him by going through the exact
same spiritual changes -but exactly a month behind Mike (he told me
so himself)."
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Who told you.........................
Mike or Graeme?
Graeme himself. I worked with him in the 80s in a fun jazz rock band with Robin Lumley, Rod Argent and a few other folks. He's a great jazz rock drummer, actually.
Not a lot of people know that (in my Michael Caine voice).
Dave.

Re: [Mellotronists] Mike and Greaeme Re: Pinder solo

2007-01-12 by pete

James,
Thanks for the link!
Pete

JAMES STRAUSS wrote:
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> "Mind you, Graeme Edge took the piss out of him by going through the
> exact
> same spiritual changes -but exactly a month behind Mike (he told me
> so himself)."
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Who told you.........................
> Mike or Graeme?
>
> Could be.
> As Mike told Graeme while he was working out a song with
> Justin..."shut up, you're only the drummer!".
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOSWEF7QPcA
>
> 7:20 into the interview.....
>

Re: [Mellotronists] Mike and Greaeme Re: Pinder solo

2007-01-13 by d.etheridge1@ntlworld.com

>Hi John,
>I didn't know that anyone would be interested, but here goes:
>It's a long story, so make yourself comfortable.
>I met Robin Lumley (of Brand X fame) on a TV shoot for a potential
>jazz series that wasn't followed up (typically, given the state of
>music on British TV. Some things never change!). I recognised him
>not only from Brand X days, but also from the fact that we're both
>Railroad modellers (as is Justin Hayward, amongst others). We got
>chatting and a few days later he rang up and said 'I'm putting
>together a fun jazz rock group, do you fancying playing in it?'.
>'Yes sure, who else is in the band?'
>'Me, Rod Argent, Morris Pert from Band X, Graeme Edge, and a session
>guitarist called Foggy Little'.
>GULP! I was in serious company.
>Robin booked a date at the Bass Clef club in London, and we met for
>the first time on the fatrenoon of the gig at the Club.
>It was the easiest gig of my life, as all these guys knew their
>stuff, the musical ideas just flowed, and it grooved mightily.
>Rod was/still is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet, and
>astoundingly inventive as a player. He had so much fun that night he
>went off to form a band with (I think) Peter Van Hooke, and we never
>saw him again!
>Robin got in Gary Brooker (of Procol Harum fame) who was a guy with
>a superbly dry wit; he'd come out with a one liner dead pan and 30
>seconds later you'ld break up as you'ld just got the joke. You never
>knew what he was going to say next. We rehearsed at Graeme's house
>at Cobham , Surrey (near the Threshold Records office), and did more
>gigs at the Bass Clef. I met Patric Moraz (one of my heroes) and
>Steve Howe (another hero) at the Bass Clef when Patrick and Bill
>Bruford (aka god) played their when their 'Flags' album was
>released, and Patrick came to the club to se us in action.
>Oh yes-the name of the band: 'Loud, Confident and Rong' (sic), named
>after a listing on Brand X albums for guitarist John 'Loud,
>Confident and Rong' Goodsall). Robin came up with that one!
>Foggy was a great guitarist with a fund of session stories; some of
>them may even have been true!
>
>We had a bunch of fun on the gigs, adding a friend/protege of
>Graeme's called Pam (I forget her surname now) on vocals; she would
>sing lead vocals on some tunes, and duet with Gary on others. We
>played the Marquee club in London, with Dave Clem Clempson on
>guitar, as Foggy had to go into hospital for an operation. Clem
>played the material like he'd been playing it for years, which was
>somewhat of a revelation.
>Gary went off to tour, so I got Peter Skellern's phone number and
>invited him over to play with the band. He fitted in right away, and
>we went to Gateway studios to record four track of demos in one day,
>which all went well. I was playing bass, moog bass and organ, Robin
>on electric piano, Peter on pianos and synths, Foggy on guitar,
>Graeme on drums, and morris on percussion. Unfortunately, despite
>the names and the lineup, we couldn't get arrested. I've still got
>the 1/4" master of the session.
>Robin fell ill a few months later, so I tracked down Kerry Minnear
>from Gentle Giant (another hero); Graeme went on tour for 'The other
>side of life' tour, so the last few gigs the lineup was: Me, Petere,
>Kerry, Foggy, Nigel Pegrum (Steeleye Span -a long standing friend )
>and Tony Fernnadez (Rick Wakeman) on percussion.
>I was hoping we'd get some interest but nothing happened and we all
>went our separate ways, which was rather a shame, 'cos the band had
>terrific potential.
>
>I'll tell you later about how I managed to teach Graeme Edge how to
>play reggae, and a few years ago I came across John Verity (of later
>Argent fame) who told me of his Spinal Tap moment: he's gone off
>stage to change cloths while the band were playing on (all part of
>the show). Unfortunately the stage lift got stuck and he couldn't
>get back. Argent had to play the same riff for about 15 minutes
>until he appeared!
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Dave.
>
>
>
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>Err, could you pretty please spill some stories about that jazz
>>rock band with Robin Lumley, Rod Argent, and Grame Edge and
>>yourself? What was the name of the band? Are recordings
>>available? Did Rod ever mention the show at the Silver Dollar
>>where the lighting crew kept cutting the power to the stage and
>>Russ Ballard quit the band in the dressing room afterwards?
>>
>>John McIntyre
>>mcintyre@...

RE: [Mellotronists] Mike and Greaeme Re: Pinder solo

2007-01-13 by Pomeroy Ranch

Dave – post it, sell it, get it out there!!! We’d all love a copy, right all??

Vance

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