Mellotronists

Hi Andy   Off The Shelf is a shortened version of Among The Stars ( same songs from Off 
The Shelf are on the latter plus additional tracks.) I believe Mike played real tron on 
"Waters Beneath The Bridge" (also found on the Mellotron Album) as it was an older song/
demo from the 80s. There's a lot of tron strings on the rest but done with his own 
personal samples (and they sound really nice,btw) but again most of the music is a bit 
MOR for my tastes. No prog epics here......

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
>
> Chaps
> 
> Quick general question re.Mike Pinder's '90s solo albums, Off the Shelf and Among the 
Stars. Does anyone have these? Does he actually play Mellotron on either of them, or had 
he long disposed of his machines by then? Ta!

> 
> Andy T.
>

Hi Andy,
I haven't got the albums, but by that time, MP had his Mellotron 
samples stored in Roland S760 and S770 samplers. There was a rather 
interesting interview with him in the Moody Blues fanzine 'Higher and 
Higher around 92-3, with details of his then current studio.
Martin Smith (may Allah and everybody else bless his name) will have 
more info on this, as he played me a track from that time, and 
somewhat took the piss!

Dave.

>Quick general question re.Mike Pinder's '90s solo albums, Off the 
>Shelf and Among the Stars. Does anyone have these? Does he actually 
>play Mellotron on either of them, or had he long disposed of his 
>machines by then? Ta!
>
>Andy T.
>

Of the 1k+ CDs in my collection, this is easily one of the worst.   
Every song is a complete stinker, and if there is any tron (even in  
'Waters Beneath the Bridge') it's way down in the mix and can't  
salvage the pitiful sappy songwriting.  The vocals are especially  
horrid.  Hard to believe it's even the same Mike Pinder that signed  
all of those Mellotron covers on ebay.
-jima

On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:48 AM, charel196 wrote:

>
> Hi Andy   Off The Shelf is a shortened version of Among The Stars  
> ( same songs from Off
> The Shelf are on the latter plus additional tracks.) I believe Mike  
> played real tron on
> "Waters Beneath The Bridge" (also found on the Mellotron Album) as  
> it was an older song/
> demo from the 80s. There's a lot of tron strings on the rest but  
> done with his own
> personal samples (and they sound really nice,btw) but again most of  
> the music is a bit
> MOR for my tastes. No prog epics here......
>
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Thompson"  
> <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
>>
>> Chaps
>>
>> Quick general question re.Mike Pinder's '90s solo albums, Off the  
>> Shelf and Among the
> Stars. Does anyone have these? Does he actually play Mellotron on  
> either of them, or had
> he long disposed of his machines by then? Ta!
>>
>> Andy T.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

don't mince words, jim....tell us what you REALLY think.....:)


--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, Jim Anderson <jimanderson@...> wrote:

>
> Of the 1k+ CDs in my collection, this is easily one of the worst.   
> Every song is a complete stinker, and if there is any tron (even in  
> 'Waters Beneath the Bridge') it's way down in the mix and can't  
> salvage the pitiful sappy songwriting.  The vocals are especially  
> horrid.  Hard to believe it's even the same Mike Pinder that signed  
> all of those Mellotron covers on ebay.
> -jima
> 
> On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:48 AM, charel196 wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hi Andy   Off The Shelf is a shortened version of Among The Stars  
> > ( same songs from Off
> > The Shelf are on the latter plus additional tracks.) I believe Mike  
> > played real tron on
> > "Waters Beneath The Bridge" (also found on the Mellotron Album) as  
> > it was an older song/
> > demo from the 80s. There's a lot of tron strings on the rest but  
> > done with his own
> > personal samples (and they sound really nice,btw) but again most of  
> > the music is a bit
> > MOR for my tastes. No prog epics here......
> >
> > --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Thompson"  
> > <andy.thompson@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Chaps
> >>
> >> Quick general question re.Mike Pinder's '90s solo albums, Off the  
> >> Shelf and Among the
> > Stars. Does anyone have these? Does he actually play Mellotron on  
> > either of them, or had
> > he long disposed of his machines by then? Ta!
> >>
> >> Andy T.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Jim Anderson" <jimanderson@...>
To: "Mellotronists" <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo


> Of the 1k+ CDs in my collection, this is easily one of the worst.
> Every song is a complete stinker, and if there is any tron (even in
> 'Waters Beneath the Bridge') it's way down in the mix and can't
> salvage the pitiful sappy songwriting.  The vocals are especially
> horrid.  Hard to believe it's even the same Mike Pinder that signed
> all of those Mellotron covers on ebay.
> -jima

That good, Jim?  :-)

Andy T.

p.s. I know own 4k+ albums on various formats, and none of them are Mike 
Pinder solos.

well Pinder's solo albums definitely aren't up to the cosmic 
standards he set with the Moodies but they have moments. Andy-write 
me again w/ your address if you want & I'll burn you copies if 
you're curious.
 THE PROMISE' title cut is the closest thing he did to a MB tune. 
The rest is closer to Steely Dan/lightweight California pop. That's 
what happens to proggers who leave jolly old England..they must 
leave the magic behind.










--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Thompson" 
<andy.thompson@...> wrote:
>
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Anderson" <jimanderson@...>
> To: "Mellotronists" <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo
> 
> 
> > Of the 1k+ CDs in my collection, this is easily one of the worst.
> > Every song is a complete stinker, and if there is any tron (even 
in
> > 'Waters Beneath the Bridge') it's way down in the mix and can't
> > salvage the pitiful sappy songwriting.  The vocals are especially
> > horrid.  Hard to believe it's even the same Mike Pinder that 
signed
> > all of those Mellotron covers on ebay.
> > -jima
> 
> That good, Jim?  :-)
> 
> Andy T.
> 
> p.s. I know own 4k+ albums on various formats, and none of them 
are Mike 
> Pinder solos.
>

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "jonesalley" <jonesalley@...>
To: "Mellotronists" <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:18 PM
Subject: Fw: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo


> You know, I honestly think there's a lot of truth in that statement, and 
> in
> somewhat of a corollary, that the best prog comes from Great Britain.  I
> believe the enveloping mist of ancient myth and legend, tradition and
> culture, combined with the landscape, the climate, and the wonderful
> historic places that survive to this day is the fuel that started the prog
> fire,

Have you ever been here, Jon?  :-)   Actually, bits of the country still 
keep that 'olde-worlde' charm, but identikit pedestrianised precincts in 
every two-bit town tend to smooth off the interesting rough edges.

> and when blended with the mystical sound of Mellotrons became
> something truly singular.  I've been thinking for a while now (since I
> started having the experience of being able to play one as part of my 
> daily
> routine) that if Mellotrons had managed to survive the wave of digital
> synths that prog would not have died, and that the slowly waxing 
> visibility
> and availability of the instruments is triggering this wonderful new wave 
> of
> steadily-improving prog rock.

Although it's a small minority of current prog bands that use Mellotrons, 
even sampled ones. And to get all picky on you, prog was dying a bloody 
death years before digital synths - the early '80s bands predate the DX7... 
Seems to me to be more of a cultural shift, where the generation that grew 
up with the Moodies, Crimson, Genesis et al. all got married and had kids, 
and started listening to the Alan Parsons Project and ELO, and their younger 
siblings turned to other music, perceived as current. Or am I just talking 
crap?  :-)

> Add to that the internet to provide a large
> enough world-wide audience for this wonderful genre with many things left 
> to
> say, and I think the next five years are going to see a renaissance
> (intentional prog reference) of new music tempered with the improvements 
> in
> technology and blended with some of the interesting new characteristics of
> today's emo-type and pop-punk music.

Haven't Muse already done that? In seriousness, there are some decent 
current prog bands, but most of them sound like nothing's chaged in 30 
years. I'm not actually arguing that this is a bad thing, only it has little 
to do with moving forwards, and a lot to do with recreating something that 
was once innovative. Wouldn't stop me doing exactly that, mind...

Andy T.

In a message dated 1/10/2007 5:03:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
charel196@... writes:

That's  
what happens to proggers who leave jolly old England..they must 
leave  the magic behind.



Jolly old England?
 
Prog?
 
Does not equate.
 
Progressive music was founded by Baby Boomers, here and over there.  Everyone 
knows that the Brits of that (my) generation were all "Hitler  curious." 
(although not a progger, Townsend is a good example). I also think the  great 
progressive music that came out of England in the 60's and 70's was not  born of 
"jolly old" anything. I think it was music born from opportunity. The  birth of 
the synth and of course, the mighty Mellotron (Chamberlin). The chance  to 
have tremendous musical power at your fingertips led to the creation of a new  
form of music. The name for it came later. I heard the music of KC and the  
Moodies described as, "Orchestral Rock," and, "Art Rock," long before I ever  
heard the expression, "Progressive Rock."
 
Just my thoughts.
 
By the way, I know that the reference was off the cuff, Charles. And you're  
certainly right in this respect. Pinder left an abiding history for the  
California vibe. And grew away from his previous style. Worse to us, but better  
for him. We all grow and change. Listen to what Springsteen wrote in 1974 and  
what he writes now. But Springsteen is a far better song writer. Still his 
style  and substance has changed.
 
Frank

I don't mind bands labeling themselves as prog (although I prefer they use the subtler yet broader term, progressive) as a point of reference. I do object to the glut of faceless traditionalist bands like Spock's Beard, Echolyn etc. It's just crap!! Wearing your influences is one thing, but Jesus, parade an attempt at an original idea out there once in a while. Radiohead, Sufjan Stevens, Efterklang, Ratatat even My Chemical Romance (yay Jersey boys!) feel more "progressive" than bands that rehash the "glory days" with the same sounds and ensembles, but with slightly different notes, more chops and less imperfections.........let the flaming begin
 
 iFritz -available fall '07 from Cingular Wireless and Orange Telecom 

 -----Original Message-----
 From: andy.thompson@...
 To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 6:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo
 
     
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "jonesalley" <jonesalley@...>
 To: "Mellotronists" <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:18 PM
 Subject: Fw: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo
 
 > You know, I honestly think there's a lot of truth in that statement, and 
 > in
 > somewhat of a corollary, that the best prog comes from Great Britain. I
 > believe the enveloping mist of ancient myth and legend, tradition and
 > culture, combined with the landscape, the climate, and the wonderful
 > historic places that survive to this day is the fuel that started the prog
 > fire,
 
 Have you ever been here, Jon? :-) Actually, bits of the country still 
 keep that 'olde-worlde' charm, but identikit pedestrianised precincts in 
 every two-bit town tend to smooth off the interesting rough edges.
 
 > and when blended with the mystical sound of Mellotrons became
 > something truly singular. I've been thinking for a while now (since I
 > started having the experience of being able to play one as part of my 
 > daily
 > routine) that if Mellotrons had managed to survive the wave of digital
 > synths that prog would not have died, and that the slowly waxing 
 > visibility
 > and availability of the instruments is triggering this wonderful new wave 
 > of
 > steadily-improving prog rock.
 
 Although it's a small minority of current prog bands that use Mellotrons, 
 even sampled ones. And to get all picky on you, prog was dying a bloody 
 death years before digital synths - the early '80s bands predate the DX7... 
 Seems to me to be more of a cultural shift, where the generation that grew 
 up with the Moodies, Crimson, Genesis et al. all got married and had kids, 
 and started listening to the Alan Parsons Project and ELO, and their younger 
 siblings turned to other music, perceived as current. Or am I just talking 
 crap? :-)
 
 > Add to that the internet to provide a large
 > enough world-wide audience for this wonderful genre with many things left 
 > to
 > say, and I think the next five years are going to see a renaissance
 > (intentional prog reference) of new music tempered with the improvements 
 > in
 > technology and blended with some of the interesting new characteristics of
 > today's emo-type and pop-punk music.
 
 Haven't Muse already done that? In seriousness, there are some decent 
 current prog bands, but most of them sound like nothing's chaged in 30 
 years. I'm not actually arguing that this is a bad thing, only it has little 
 to do with moving forwards, and a lot to do with recreating something that 
 was once innovative. Wouldn't stop me doing exactly that, mind...
 
 Andy T.
 
      
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 fdoddy@... wrote:

>  I don't mind bands labeling themselves as prog (although I prefer they
>  use the subtler yet broader term, progressive) as a point of reference.
>  I do object to the glut of faceless traditionalist bands like Spock's
>  Beard, Echolyn etc. It's just crap!! Wearing your influences is one
>  thing, but Jesus, parade an attempt at an original idea out there once
>  in a while. Radiohead, Sufjan Stevens, Efterklang, Ratatat even My
>  Chemical Romance (yay Jersey boys!) feel more "progressive" than bands
>  that rehash the "glory days" with the same sounds and ensembles, but
>  with slightly different notes, more chops and less
>  imperfections.........let the flaming begin


aaah.
radiohead.
the group that holds the record for most albums
sold without actually putting any music on them.

it's going to come out years from now that radiohead
was just a big joke. NOW flame away...

...jeff


>  iFritz -available fall '07 from Cingular Wireless and Orange Telecom


can i pre-order one?

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 lsf5275@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/10/2007 5:03:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> charel196@... writes:
>
> That's
> what happens to proggers who leave jolly old England..they must
> leave  the magic behind.



interesting take on the roots of prog at wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prog_rock

not endorsing or disputing anything, just pointing it out
as a source.

> Jolly old England?
>
> Prog?
>
> Does not equate.
>
> Progressive music was founded by Baby Boomers, here and over there.  Everyone
> knows that the Brits of that (my) generation were all "Hitler  curious."
> (although not a progger, Townsend is a good example). I also think the  great
> progressive music that came out of England in the 60's and 70's was not  born of
> "jolly old" anything. I think it was music born from opportunity. The  birth of
> the synth and of course, the mighty Mellotron (Chamberlin). The chance  to
> have tremendous musical power at your fingertips led to the creation of a new
> form of music. The name for it came later. I heard the music of KC and the
> Moodies described as, "Orchestral Rock," and, "Art Rock," long before I ever
> heard the expression, "Progressive Rock."
>
> Just my thoughts.
>
> By the way, I know that the reference was off the cuff, Charles. And you're
> certainly right in this respect. Pinder left an abiding history for the
> California vibe. And grew away from his previous style. Worse to us, but better
> for him. We all grow and change. Listen to what Springsteen wrote in 1974 and
> what he writes now. But Springsteen is a far better song writer. Still his
> style  and substance has changed.
>
> Frank
>

Little known fact.
 
The "progressive movement" was started in 1967 by a band from Dayton, Ohio  
called "My Liquid Lunch."

OK, sorry.  I don't mean to be mean.  I just had the wrong  
expectations when buying this CD, thinking it would be more like a  
moodies album minus Justin Hayward.  Not even close.  Wouldn't want  
others to make that same mistake.
-jima

On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:43 AM, charel196 wrote:

>
> don't mince words, jim....tell us what you REALLY think.....:)
>
>
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, Jim Anderson  
> <jimanderson@...> wrote:
>>
>> Of the 1k+ CDs in my collection, this is easily one of the worst.
>> Every song is a complete stinker, and if there is any tron (even in
>> 'Waters Beneath the Bridge') it's way down in the mix and can't
>> salvage the pitiful sappy songwriting.  The vocals are especially
>> horrid.  Hard to believe it's even the same Mike Pinder that signed
>> all of those Mellotron covers on ebay.
>> -jima
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:48 AM, charel196 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Andy   Off The Shelf is a shortened version of Among The Stars
>>> ( same songs from Off
>>> The Shelf are on the latter plus additional tracks.) I believe Mike
>>> played real tron on
>>> "Waters Beneath The Bridge" (also found on the Mellotron Album) as
>>> it was an older song/
>>> demo from the 80s. There's a lot of tron strings on the rest but
>>> done with his own
>>> personal samples (and they sound really nice,btw) but again most of
>>> the music is a bit
>>> MOR for my tastes. No prog epics here......
>>>
>>> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Thompson"
>>> <andy.thompson@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chaps
>>>>
>>>> Quick general question re.Mike Pinder's '90s solo albums, Off the
>>>> Shelf and Among the
>>> Stars. Does anyone have these? Does he actually play Mellotron on
>>> either of them, or had
>>> he long disposed of his machines by then? Ta!
>>>>
>>>> Andy T.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

> well Pinder's solo albums definitely aren't up to the cosmic
> standards he set with the Moodies but they have moments.

One of these days I may be able to see what everyone else sees in the
Moodies in general or Pinder in particular.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

In a message dated 11/01/2007 01:01:48 GMT Standard Time, fdoddy@...  
writes:

I do  object to the glut of faceless traditionalist bands like Spock's Beard, 
 Echolyn etc.  It's just crap!! 


Well said. I hate all that sub Crimso, schizoid music that has an  idea for 
so many bars, discards it and carries on in 7/4 for no particular  reason only 
to abandon that a few bars later and doodle on a fucking flute for a  bit.  
Where is development, reharmonisation and drama in all of this  crap?
 
Martin
 
STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All Things Mellotronic

_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
_www.mellotronics.com_ (http://www.mellotronics.com/) 
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(http://jmoore6397@.../) 
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On 11 Jan 2007, at 07:34, tronbros@... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/01/2007 01:01:48 GMT Standard Time, 
> fdoddy@... writes:
>> I do object to the glut of faceless traditionalist bands like Spock's 
>> Beard, Echolyn etc.  It's just crap!! Well said. I hate all that sub 
>> Crimso, schizoid music that has an idea for so many bars, discards it 
>> and carries on in 7/4 for no particular reason only to abandon that a 
>> few bars later and doodle on a fucking flute for a bit.  Where is 
>> development, reharmonisation and drama in all of this crap?

Oh Martinge, you're so quaint!!

Cxx

http://www.s-club.co.uk
        Sundae Club*
         PO Box 862
         Cheltenham
           GL52 2XT

>I don't mind bands labeling themselves as prog (although I prefer 
>they use the subtler yet broader term, progressive) as a point of 
>reference.  I do object to the glut of faceless traditionalist bands 
>like Spock's Beard, Echolyn etc.  It's just crap!!  Wearing your 
>influences is one thing, but Jesus, parade an attempt at an original 
>idea out there once in a while.  Radiohead, Sufjan Stevens, 
>Efterklang, Ratatat even My Chemical Romance (yay Jersey boys!) feel 
>more "progressive" than bands that rehash the "glory days" with the 
>same sounds and ensembles, but with slightly different notes, more 
>chops and less imperfections.........let the flaming begin
>
>iFritz  -available fall '07 from Cingular Wireless and  Orange Telecom
>
You mean like trad jazz?

AAAAARRRGGGHHH....

>In a message dated 11/01/2007 01:01:48 GMT Standard Time, 
>fdoddy@... writes:
>
>I do object to the glut of faceless traditionalist bands like 
>Spock's Beard, Echolyn etc.  It's just crap!! 
>
>Well said. I hate all that sub Crimso, schizoid music that has an 
>idea for so many bars, discards it and carries on in 7/4 for no 
>particular reason only to abandon that a few bars later and doodle 
>on a fucking flute for a bit.  Where is development, reharmonisation 
>and drama in all of this crap?
>
>Martin
>
I did it on my 'Rime of the Ancient Sampler' track: never use one 
chord when 357 sound better. The drama you'll have to wait 
for...........

In a message dated 11/01/2007 08:28:31 GMT Standard Time,  
d.etheridge1@... writes:

I did it on my 'Rime of the Ancient  Sampler' track: never use one chord when 
357 sound better. The drama you'll  have to wait for.........I 


I had forgotten to mention two things:  1) have some melodic  invention and 
2) have a point.  You managed to cover these David.
 
Martin
 
STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All Things Mellotronic

_www.mellotronics.co.uk_ (http://www.mellotronics.co.uk/) 
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(http://jmoore6397@.../) 
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(http://pjc56@.../)

Exactly!    

 -----Original Message-----
 From: d.etheridge1@...
 To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo
 
     >I don't mind bands labeling themselves as prog (although I prefer 
 >they use the subtler yet broader term, progressive) as a point of 
 >reference. I do object to the glut of faceless traditionalist bands 
 >like Spock's Beard, Echolyn etc. It's just crap!! Wearing your 
 >influences is one thing, but Jesus, parade an attempt at an original 
 >idea out there once in a while. Radiohead, Sufjan Stevens, 
 >Efterklang, Ratatat even My Chemical Romance (yay Jersey boys!) feel 
 >more "progressive" than bands that rehash the "glory days" with the 
 >same sounds and ensembles, but with slightly different notes, more 
 >chops and less imperfections.........let the flaming begin
 >
 >iFritz -available fall '07 from Cingular Wireless and Orange Telecom
 >
 You mean like trad jazz?
 
 AAAAARRRGGGHHH....
      
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Who is this Pinder and why does he solo?

Me

----- Original Message ----- 

From: <tron@...>
To: <Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:57 AM
Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo


>> well Pinder's solo albums definitely aren't up to the cosmic
>> standards he set with the Moodies but they have moments.
> 
> One of these days I may be able to see what everyone else sees in the
> Moodies in general or Pinder in particular.
> 
> Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
> The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
> Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

I wouldn't bet on it, Mike.

Andy T.

>
>  > One of these days I may be able to see what everyone else sees in the
>  > Moodies in general or Pinder in particular.

Well, it was THAT sound; supposedly on early Melly powered gigs, 
audiences were looking into the wings to try and spot the hidden 
string section! (it was 1966 after all, and we were all much more 
naive then).
Then in the summer of love, when everything was truly cosmic (man), 
the Moodies managed to typify the vibe of, like really getting down 
with the UNIVERSE, and getting away from the heavy shit of the 
straights who weren't tuned in and turned on, like, wow, heavy shit, 
man... (continues for four hours).
I'll admit it- I bought Moodies albums! I still have them (vinyl, 
natch) and for the time they were very influential on my cranium. And 
Mr. Pinder always hinted at having had a glimpse of something more 
-probably under the influence of something or other- that made you 
listen very hard to his lyrics and decide that there as more to life 
than every day humdrum stuff.
I never did the drugs myself, coming across too many acid casualties 
with fried brains in the music world.
So Mike Pinder for many voiced the spiritual questioning that many 
folks in the late 60s -and ever since -felt within themselves. Mind 
you, Graeme Edge took the piss out of him by going through the exact 
same spiritual changes -but exactly a month behind Mike (he told me 
so himself).
Anyway, it's a lot more worthy than songs about 'White Riots' sung by 
punks who are really as much middle class ponces as the rest of us.
And the Moodies are still in existence and gigging, unlike all the 
'futures of rock' that were supposed to supplant them.
If ya wanna grow old gracefully, join a Cosmic Rock band........or a prog one.

Dave.

In a message dated 1/11/2007 3:08:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tron@... writes:

One of  these days I may be able to see what everyone else sees in the
Moodies in  general or Pinder in particular.




Don't bother. Pinder was thrown out of the band because after 8 albums,  they 
realized that he sucked.
 
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In a message dated 1/11/2007 5:28:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
d.etheridge1@... writes:

Mr.  Pinder always hinted at having had a glimpse of something more 
-probably  under the influence of something or other- that made you 
listen very hard  to his lyrics and decide that there as more to life 
than every day humdrum  stuff.



Yeah, On TOCCC, he wrote a song about being a sperm. Heavy! "ya got to make  
the journey out and in..out and in."
 
Still one of my favorites of Mike's tunes. Always brings a  smile.

>
>Yeah, On TOCCC, he wrote a song about being a sperm. Heavy! "ya got 
>to make the journey out and in..out and in."
>
>Still one of my favorites of Mike's tunes. Always brings a smile.

Ah, well I always presumed it referred to reincarnation and astral 
travel, as in 'out and in' the body.
Some people get the wrong idea, and it's one of us!
Dave

In a message dated 12/01/2007 14:53:30 GMT Standard Time,  djacques@csulb.edu 
writes:

Yeah, right… Just  listen to some of the live recordings and you will hear 
how great he was… Ever  play a real Mellotron? Try that before you judge how 
others  play…


IT WAS A JOKE!!!!!!!!!
 
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well I guess you had to live through dropping acid/mescaline/peyote in 
the late 60s/early 70s and take the voyage with them:)

> One of these days I may be able to see what everyone else sees in the
> Moodies in general or Pinder in particular.
> 
> Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
> The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
> Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/
>

Yeah, right. Just listen to some of the live recordings and you will hear
how great he was. Ever play a real Mellotron? Try that before you judge how
others play.

 

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On Behalf Of lsf5275@...
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:28 PM
To: tron@...; Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Pinder solo

 

In a message dated 1/11/2007 3:08:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tron@... writes:

One of these days I may be able to see what everyone else sees in the
Moodies in general or Pinder in particular.

Don't bother. Pinder was thrown out of the band because after 8 albums, they
realized that he sucked.

 

7 6 5 4 3 2 1 .....

In a message dated 1/12/2007 9:53:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
djacques@... writes:

Yeah, right… Just  listen to some of the live recordings and you will hear 
how great he was… Ever  play a real Mellotron? Try that before you judge how 
others  play…
 
I explained this to you privately.  It was A  JOKE!!!