Mellotronists

The Streetly Electronics Mellotron Sample Library found at
http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/ has been updated again.

Have a look out for the new 'Louise Davis' Vibrato and Pizzicato
'Cellos, as well as the Glocks/Tubular bells split, the Rick Sanders
electric violin and

(drum roll)

* * B i r o t r o n C h o i r * *

Not the washed out and shitty sounding thing found on the M-Tron (or on
a Birotron, for that matter) but the *real deal* - a recording taken
straight from the original master tapes. I think this one is quite
wonderful.

I also have apologies to offer for some readers, notably those who
contributed samples to the site. The Demon web space is limited to 20Mb
(or 100Mb for ��� a month) and so I have had to get rid of a couple of
longer samples, edit down some others and reduce the lot to 96kbps,
which is not my idea of joy but it's necessary. Apologies to you all,
particularly Norm Leete whose rather lovely Sad Strings sample was the
most hit upon thing on the site. (A bit like Norm, actually)

Lots more to follow. All comments welcome as ever.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

I thought the Birotron choir was made originally from 2 Mellotrons,
holding down the same note on each machine and alternating them
while using volume pedal to make a "sustained" sound. If this is
true why put a Birotron choir on Mellotron tapes:)??

Birotron tapes were FIRST mellotron tapes and then
they made their own sound sets. Great to know that
someone has those masters!!! Martin, do you guys also
have the other Biro recorded sounds? What would that
include?

Mark.
--- charel196 <charel196@...> wrote:

> I thought the Birotron choir was made originally
> from 2 Mellotrons,
> holding down the same note on each machine and
> alternating them
> while using volume pedal to make a "sustained"
> sound. If this is
> true why put a Birotron choir on Mellotron tapes:)??
>
>
>
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, tron@...
> wrote:
> >
> > The Streetly Electronics Mellotron Sample Library
> found at
> > http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/ has been
> updated again.
> >
> > Have a look out for the new 'Louise Davis' Vibrato
> and Pizzicato
> > 'Cellos, as well as the Glocks/Tubular bells
> split, the Rick
> Sanders
> > electric violin and
> >
> > (drum roll)
> >
> > * * B i r o t r o n C h o i r * *
> >
> > Not the washed out and shitty sounding thing found
> on the M-Tron
> (or on
> > a Birotron, for that matter) but the *real deal* -
> a recording
> taken
> > straight from the original master tapes. I think
> this one is quite
> > wonderful.
> >
> > I also have apologies to offer for some readers,
> notably those who
> > contributed samples to the site. The Demon web
> space is limited to
> 20Mb
> > (or 100Mb for œœœ a month) and so I have had to
> get rid of a
> couple of
> > longer samples, edit down some others and reduce
> the lot to 96kbps,
> > which is not my idea of joy but it's necessary.
> Apologies to you
> all,
> > particularly Norm Leete whose rather lovely Sad
> Strings sample was
> the
> > most hit upon thing on the site. (A bit like Norm,
> actually)
> >
> > Lots more to follow. All comments welcome as ever.
> >
> > Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
> > The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
> > Streetly Sample Library
> http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/
> >
>
>
>

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In the recent message <c83.a4940a2.32b2f56b@...>
you wrote...

> The Biro Choir is a completely unique set of recordings which we have edited
> to the best of our abilities. There were so many false starts, poor
> unisons, noises and fartings in general. however, once you add a little reverb the
> whole thing gels nicely.

The outtakes that you played me of the choir were actually quite funny.
They sort of go like this

AAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAaaaAAAHHHH...<splutter>...BWA!-HA!-HA!-HA!...etc etc

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

> I thought the Birotron choir was made originally from 2 Mellotrons,
> holding down the same note on each machine and alternating them
> while using volume pedal to make a "sustained" sound. If this is
> true why put a Birotron choir on Mellotron tapes:)??

Because it's not true. Listen to the choirs again. They are different
sounds entirely.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

Hi Mike maybe I'm thinking of how the Orchestron disks were made....I thought I had
read someplace that Dave Biro used 2 trons to make the Birotron tapes.
hey there's a thought....put Orchestron & Optigan on Mellotron tapes....

> From: "charel196" <charel196@...>
> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:37:26 -0000
>
> maybe I'm thinking of how the Orchestron disks were made....I thought I had
> read someplace that Dave Biro used 2 trons to make the Birotron tapes.

Something like that is described in the original Birotron patent:

http://till.com/articles/Mellotron/patents.html

But that doesn't mean the technique was really used on those tapes.

-- Don

--
Don Tillman
Palo Alto, California
don@...
http://www.till.com

> Because it's not true. Listen to the choirs again. They are different
> sounds entirely.

Yes, nothing like the 8 voice choir OR the boys choir. The Birotron
choir sounds like men with balls. Thanks for posting the sounds Mike.

Clay