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Isn´t the Airplane on " Back in the U.S.S R " Mellotron ?

// Mattias

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Subject: [Mellotronists] Beatles Mellotron...


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> derrick espino
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> I am positive that there is no Mellotron whatsoever on Sgt Peppers but if anyone can offer a suspicious sounding track I would love to hear your opinion.. THere is definitly 3 Violins and Trombone and Flutes on "flying" from Magical Mystery Tour but i think thats about it from the Pepper era other than Strawberry Fields.. Tron doesnt resurface until Bungalow Bill's Mandolin and Trombone and the 3 violins and flutes of Revolution Number 9... I think that should do it for the Beatles use of Tron.. Any Beatle fans out there have any others?
> 
> Derrick Espino
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>       1. the earliest so far!
>            From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@yahoo.co.uk>
>       2. Confirm that mandolin!
>            From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
>       3. RE: Confirm that mandolin!
>            From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
>       4. RE: Re: John Hawken
>            From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
>       5. RE: Early Recordings
>            From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
>       6. Stones & the Mellotron 1968
>            From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
>       7. Early Recordings/The Hollies
>            From: "mellotrongirl <mellotrongirl@...>" <mellotrongirl@...>
>       8. the (almost) complete list
>            From: dko4342@...
>       9. Re: Re: John Hawken
>            From: "Aidan Clark" <aidan@...>
>      10. Re: Re: John Hawken
>            From: "Aidan Clark" <aidan@...>
>      11. Early recordings
>            From: "J.K.Beresford" <j.k.beresford@....uk>
>      12. RE: the (almost) complete list
>            From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
>      13. RE: Re: John Hawken
>            From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
>      14. Re: Early recordings
>            From: "J.K.Beresford" <j.k.beresford@...>
>      15. Anoraks at the ready!
>            From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
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> Message: 1
>    Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 12:57:49 -0000
>    From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
> Subject: the earliest so far!
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> >From what I've read from the internet The Graham Bond 
> Organisation's 'Lease on Love' single from 1965 is the earliest use 
> of Mellotron on record followed by the album 'There's a Bond Between 
> us' also from 1965. 
> 
> Manfred Mann(check out the song 'each others company' from 1966 for 
> some great 3 violins, brass? and mandolin) and The Moody Blues appear 
> to be the only other bands to use Mellotron before 'Strawberry Fields 
> Forever' and the flood gates of 1967. 
> 
> Surely there must be more? Maybe a dodgy single by some unknown 
> crooner or something?
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Philip
> 
> (would love to own a mellotron, but cannae afford one!)
> 
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> Message: 2
>    Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 18:25:11 -0000
>    From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
> Subject: Confirm that mandolin!
> 
> Hello again!
> 
> Just been listeneing to the Rolling Stones 'Beggars Banquet' and 
> noticed that it contained two tracks with Mellotron on it. 
> 
> Stray cat blues has a virtually un-audible use of mixed brass by 
> Brian Jones in a similar style to the 'We Love You' single.
> 
> I also noticed that the song 'Factory Girl' features MK II mandolin, 
> You'll have to listening carefully though because it's mixed in with 
> a real fiddle, but it's definitely there.
> 
> Does Andy Thompson welcome such info for his Mellotron web sight?
> 
> Philip
> 
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> Message: 3
>    Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:00:38 -0000
>    From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
> Subject: RE: Confirm that mandolin!
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>
> [mailto:philipjamesjohnston@...]
> Sent: 16 February 2003 18:25
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] Confirm that mandolin!
> 
> 
> Philip/all
> 
> 
> Just been listeneing to the Rolling Stones 'Beggars Banquet' and
> noticed that it contained two tracks with Mellotron on it.
> 
> Stray cat blues has a virtually un-audible use of mixed brass by
> Brian Jones in a similar style to the 'We Love You' single.
> 
> I also noticed that the song 'Factory Girl' features MK II mandolin,
> You'll have to listening carefully though because it's mixed in with
> a real fiddle, but it's definitely there.
> 
> Does Andy Thompson welcome such info for his Mellotron web sight?
> 
> 
> He certainly does! Many thanks for that - I'll go back to the album and give
> it a closer listen. Some time back, someone told me they thought they could
> hear it towards the end of 'Jigsaw Puzzle' as well.
> 
> Andy T.
> M400 #1145
> 
> 'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'
> 
> http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
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> Message: 4
>    Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:41:33 -0000
>    From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
> Subject: RE: Re: John Hawken
> 
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Aidan Clark [mailto:aidan@...net.co.uk]
>   Sent: 14 February 2003 19:04
>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: John Hawken
> 
> 
>   Aidan
> 
>    John Hawken is still around.  He appears on Renaissance/Illusion's
> relatively recent album Through the Fire (really a Jim McCarty solo album).
> He lives in America.  He played Mellotron violins/flute/choir (well) on the
> Illusion albums Out of the Mist and Illusion in 1977-78.  There is no Tron
> on the recent album though.  Aidan
> 
>   Any idea if there's any on 'Enchanted Caress', recorded '79 and released
> '90?
> 
>   Andy T.
> 
>   M400 #1145
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>   'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'
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>   http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
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> Message: 5
>    Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 23:46:31 -0000
>    From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
> Subject: RE: Early Recordings
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotrongirl <mellotrongirl@...>
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> Sent: 13 February 2003 20:12
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] Early Recordings
> 
> 
> Makes one wonder who the first bands and musicians were that actually 
> bought the pricey cumbersome units & called them their own. The 
> majority of them in the mid 1960's went to recording studios and 
> never really were marketed as music instrument store items, am I 
> correct? Some early records by the Hollies, Bee Gees, Rolling Stones, 
> Eyes Of Blue, Pretty Things, etc. were only a year or two after 
> Strawberry Fields Forever...but it seems The Beatles used 'tron a 
> time or two prior to SFF...????
> 
> 
> The Hollies? What in particular?
> 
> 
> Andy T.
> M400 #1145
> 
> 'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'
> 
> http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
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> Message: 6
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 00:23:26 -0000
>    From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Stones & the Mellotron 1968
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> I had a listen to 'Jigsaw Puzzle' and there defintely isn't any 
> Mellotron. There's the usual acoustic/electric guitar, bass, piano , 
> drums and Brian Jones playing a recorder or moroccan flute with loads 
> of reverb on it.
> 
> What about the slightly distorted harmonica at the end of Jumpin' 
> Jack Flash? Could that be Mellotron? I've never heard the MK II 
> harmonica sound(or does it even have it?) so I thought i'd ask.
> 
> But I think that there's just the two tracks from the Beggars Banquet 
> album (Stray Cat Blues & Factory Girl) with MK II Mellotron on it.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Philip
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 06:21:52 -0000
>    From: "mellotrongirl <mellotrongirl@...>" <mellotrongirl@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Early Recordings/The Hollies
> 
> Andy T.---
> 
> The site doesn't mention the particular Hollies recording, only to 
> day in an excerpt reprinted from "The Mellotron Story" (Peter 
> Forrest, author) stating that "Graham Nash/Hollies (used a Mellotron) 
> in 1967" http://www.vemia.co.uk/mellotron
> 
> MellO
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> Message: 8
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:51:43 +0100
>    From: dko4342@...
> Subject: the (almost) complete list
> 
> 
> 
> What a list you've got there Andy. I noticed a Beatles record missing.
> "Abbey Road" has a lot of mellotron lurking in the background, doesn't it?.
> 
> Frank Carvalho
> #160 (..mmm. Feels good to say)
> 
> 
> P.S. This email has bounced twice from the mail server. I wonder what's wrong? 
> 
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> Message: 9
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:09:05 -0000
>    From: "Aidan Clark" <aidan@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: John Hawken
> 
> There is one Mellotron track on Illusion's Enchanted Caress: All the Falling Angels.  This is listed as "Keith Relf's last unreleased recording" (rather than a Renaissance/Illusion track) "featuring Keith on lead vocal and Louis Cennamo on bass".  The player of the Mark II violins is not listed.  Aidan
> 
>  Original Message ----- 
>   From: Andy Thompson 
>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:41 PM
>   Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] Re: John Hawken
> 
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>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Aidan Clark [mailto:aidan@...]
>     Sent: 14 February 2003 19:04
>     To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: John Hawken
> 
> 
>     Aidan 
>      
>      John Hawken is still around.  He appears on Renaissance/Illusion's relatively recent album Through the Fire (really a Jim McCarty solo album).  He lives in America.  He played Mellotron violins/flute/choir (well) on the Illusion albums Out of the Mist and Illusion in 1977-78.  There is no Tron on the recent album though.  Aidan
>      
>     Any idea if there's any on 'Enchanted Caress', recorded '79 and released '90?
>      
>     Andy T.
> 
>     M400 #1145
> 
>     'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'
> 
>     http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
> 
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> Message: 10
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:09:15 -0000
>    From: "Aidan Clark" <aidan@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: John Hawken
> 
> There is one Mellotron track on Illusion's Enchanted Caress: All the Falling Angels.  This is listed as "Keith Relf's last unreleased recording" (rather than a Renaissance/Illusion track) "featuring Keith on lead vocal and Louis Cennamo on bass".  The player of the Mark II violins is not listed.  Aidan
> 
>  Original Message ----- 
>   From: Andy Thompson 
>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:41 PM
>   Subject: RE: [Mellotronists] Re: John Hawken
> 
> 
> 
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Aidan Clark [mailto:aidan@...]
>     Sent: 14 February 2003 19:04
>     To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
>     Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: John Hawken
> 
> 
>     Aidan 
>      
>      John Hawken is still around.  He appears on Renaissance/Illusion's relatively recent album Through the Fire (really a Jim McCarty solo album).  He lives in America.  He played Mellotron violins/flute/choir (well) on the Illusion albums Out of the Mist and Illusion in 1977-78.  There is no Tron on the recent album though.  Aidan
>      
>     Any idea if there's any on 'Enchanted Caress', recorded '79 and released '90?
>      
>     Andy T.
> 
>     M400 #1145
> 
>     'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'
> 
>     http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 09:26:43 -0000
>    From: "J.K.Beresford" <j.k.beresford@...>
> Subject: Early recordings
> 
> Hi y'all,
> A possible contender for earliest recording of mellotron may be by 
> a small-time band leader by the name of Graham Dalley. Graham's 
> band "The Graham Dalley Dozen" was resident at a place called 
> The Barn near Solihull, England. He was a young brilliantly talented 
> musician (trumpet I think) and he was mad about the mellotron. He 
> had a MKII at The Barn and used it to entertain the punters whilst 
> they ate their chicken and chips between sets. He was responsible 
> for 2 separate versions of the theme music to a radio show called 
> "My Music" which he did on the MKII. He also released at least 
> one album ("The sounds of 65" or something) which I have been 
> trying to find as there is the possibility it may contain some of 
> Grahams mellotron playing. I've also been trying to get hold of a 
> recording of the My Music theme tune from the 60's from the Beeb 
> but no luck yet - anyone remember this? Sadly Graham died of a 
> heart-attack at the Barn one night in 1971 aged 41. His tron which I 
> chased around a lot looking for probably returned to the music 
> shop in Birmingham where he worked during the day. The thought 
> is it was probably on long term loan as a promotion exercise.
> Anybody know any other pub/club mellotron players? There must 
> have been a few.
> John
> M300#005
> 
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> Message: 12
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:43:05 -0000
>    From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
> Subject: RE: the (almost) complete list
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dko4342@vip.cybercity.dk [mailto:dko4342@...]
> Sent: 17 February 2003 08:52
> To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Mellotronists] the (almost) complete list
> 
> 
> Hi Frank
> 
> 
> What a list you've got there Andy.
> 
> 
> Er, yeah... just a bit! Funnily enough, I do manage to have a (sort of) life
> as well.  :-)
> 
> 
> I noticed a Beatles record missing.
> "Abbey Road" has a lot of mellotron lurking in the background, doesn't it?.
> 
> 
> Well, as with 'Sgt.Pepper', it's rather hard to say. I've had mails from
> loads of people saying they can hear 'Tron on this or that Beatles track,
> and chances are, you're all correct! Bit of a bugger to hear in the mix,
> unfortunately. Since Beatles stuff is easy to find on file-sharing programs,
> I'll listen to anything that anyone recommends - the aforementioned Pepper
> is my next 'is it or isn't it?' listen.
> 
> Andy T.
> M400 #1145
> 
> 'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'
> 
> http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 13
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:43:09 -0000
>    From: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
> Subject: RE: Re: John Hawken
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Aidan Clark [mailto:aidan@...]
>   Sent: 17 February 2003 09:09
>   To: Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: John Hawken
> 
> 
>   There is one Mellotron track on Illusion's Enchanted Caress: All the
> Falling Angels.  This is listed as "Keith Relf's last unreleased recording"
> (rather than a Renaissance/Illusion track) "featuring Keith on lead vocal
> and Louis Cennamo on bass".  The player of the Mark II violins is not
> listed.  Aidan
> 
>   Thanks for that one, Aidan - is the album actually any good, BTW?
> 
>   Cheers!
> 
>   Andy T.
> 
>    M400 #1145
> 
>   'The Ultimate Mellotron Recordings List (Possibly)'
> 
>   http://freespace.virgin.net/andy.thompson/
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 14
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:54:46 -0000
>    From: "J.K.Beresford" <j.k.beresford@...>
> Subject: Re: Early recordings
> 
> Hi Philip,
> Yeah Sounds International is the one not Sounds of 65. I was 
> getting mixed up - I think thats Graham Bond isn't it. Might be 
> interesting to get - on the other hand - might be crap!
> Cheers
> John
> 
> Date sent:      Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:42:16 -0000
> From:           "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
> To:             "J.K.Beresford" <j.k.beresford@...>
> Subject:        Re: Early recordings
> 
> > --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "J.K.Beresford" 
> > <j.k.beresford@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi y'all,
> > > A possible contender for earliest recording of mellotron may be by 
> > > a small-time band leader by the name of Graham Dalley. Graham's 
> > > band "The Graham Dalley Dozen" was resident at a place called 
> > > The Barn near Solihull, England. He was a young brilliantly 
> > talented 
> > > musician (trumpet I think) and he was mad about the mellotron. He 
> > > had a MKII at The Barn and used it to entertain the punters whilst 
> > > they ate their chicken and chips between sets. He was responsible 
> > > for 2 separate versions of the theme music to a radio show called 
> > > "My Music" which he did on the MKII. He also released at least 
> > > one album ("The sounds of 65" or something) which I have been 
> > > trying to find as there is the possibility it may contain some of 
> > > Grahams mellotron playing. I've also been trying to get hold of a 
> > > recording of the My Music theme tune from the 60's from the Beeb 
> > > but no luck yet - anyone remember this? Sadly Graham died of a 
> > > heart-attack at the Barn one night in 1971 aged 41. 
> > > John
> > > M300#005
> > 
> > Hi there, 
> > 
> > I did a quick search on Google and came up with this. An album 
> > called 'Sounds International' by the Graham Dalley Dozen for £10
> > 
> >               www.bside.co.uk/justintoday.htm - 80k 
> > 
> > There is also an album called 'At the Barn' from around the same time.
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > 
> > Philip.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 15
>    Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 11:08:45 -0000
>    From: "Philip <philipjamesjohnston@...>" <philipjamesjohnston@...>
> Subject: Anoraks at the ready!
> 
> --- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "J.K.Beresford" 
> <j.k.beresford@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Philip,
> > Yeah Sounds International is the one not Sounds of 65. I was 
> > getting mixed up - I think thats Graham Bond isn't it. Might be 
> > interesting to get - on the other hand - might be crap!
> > Cheers
> > John
> > 
> 
> 
> Hello again!
> 
> I'm in serious anorak mode...  Graham Dalley also provided mellotron
> (sound effects perhaps?)on some of the Goon shows from about 1967.
> 
> As for the music being crap, thats all part of the fun isn't it? But 
> I reckon it's worth the risk, 'Sounds International' and 'At the 
> Barn' might be a pleasant surprise and chock full of whacked out 
> Mellotron.
> 
> 
> Philip
> 
> 
> 
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