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2019-04-12 by GH356@...
Hopefully near the end of restoration on 1600 GT 5296 (woodie, LHD). Unfortunately, the right side window, and the window lift mechanisms from both sides were lost in action. Does anyone have spares, or parts that I could borrow for replication? Would be fine with converting to electric if that would be more viable. I have the window frames. Appreciate any help. I'm in Orange County, Southern California. Greg Haskin
2019-04-16 by larry meadows
If you want to convert to electric, I can send info on parts to use. The motor assy's are 1960's GM. The right motor is used on the left side and visa versa. Not sure if window frame is interchangeable.
Regards,
Larry 3v5536
On Friday, April 12, 2019, 6:55:28 PM EDT, GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hopefully near the end of restoration on 1600 GT 5296 (woodie, LHD). Unfortunately, the right side window, and the window lift mechanisms from both sides were lost in action. Does anyone have spares, or parts that I could borrow for replication? Would be fine with converting to electric if that would be more viable. I have the window frames. Appreciate any help. I'm in Orange County, Southern California. Greg Haskin2019-04-16 by C&D
Hello Greg, I've just finished restoring chassis 5201. The window lifts are from an Austin A30. There is no winder mechanism. The glass sits on an adjustable spring loaded bar and you pull it up or push down using a small piece glued onto the glass. I'll check to see if I have a photo of the mechanism. Danny
From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:38 AM To: GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT side window help. If you want to convert to electric, I can send info on parts to use. The motor assy's are 1960's GM. The right motor is used on the left side and visa versa. Not sure if window frame is interchangeable. Regards, Larry 3v5536 On Friday, April 12, 2019, 6:55:28 PM EDT, GH356@... <mailto:GH356@...> [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> > wrote: Hopefully near the end of restoration on 1600 GT 5296 (woodie, LHD). Unfortunately, the right side window, and the window lift mechanisms from both sides were lost in action. Does anyone have spares, or parts that I could borrow for replication? Would be fine with converting to electric if that would be more viable. I have the window frames. Appreciate any help. I'm in Orange County, Southern California. Greg Haskin
2019-04-16 by Greg
Hello Greg,
I've just finished restoring chassis 5201. The window lifts are from an Austin A30. There is no winder mechanism. The glass sits on an adjustable spring loaded bar and you pull it up or push down using a small piece glued onto the glass.
I'll check to see if I have a photo of the mechanism.
Danny
From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 5:38 AM
To: GH356@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT side window help.
If you want to convert to electric, I can send info on parts to use.. The motor assy's are 1960's GM. The right motor is used on the left side and visa versa. Not sure if window frame is interchangeable.
Regards,
Larry3v5536
On Friday, April 12, 2019, 6:55:28 PM EDT, GH356@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hopefully near the end of restoration on 1600 GT 5296 (woodie, LHD). Unfortunately, the right side window, and the window lift mechanisms from both sides were lost in action. Does anyone have spares, or parts that I could borrow for replication? Would be fine with converting to electric if that would be more viable. I have the window frames. Appreciate any help. I'm in Orange County, Southern California. Greg Haskin
2019-04-27 by GH356@...
Larry, thank you. I would appreciate the info to convert to electric. Would be great if that solves my lift problem. Would still need to get the glass. Greg
2019-04-28 by larry meadows
If the parts are available, the glass can be cut and tempered by most local glass shops.I have the patterns for all 4 pieces. The left and right sides are totally different.I will check around and see what I can find.
Regards,
Larry
On Saturday, April 27, 2019, 2:27:33 AM EDT, GH356@...m [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Larry, thank you. I would appreciate the info to convert to electric. Would be great if that solves my lift problem. Would still need to get the glass. Greg2019-04-29 by GH356@...
Much appreciated Larry.
2019-06-21 by GH356@...
Larry, any luck with parts numbers for the motors and/or the window pattern for the right side window? Any help would be much appreciated. If anyone out there is part way through a restoration, and would lend the lift mechanisms to me, I would happily make an extra set. It doesn't seem possible to duplicate the parts without a basis better than a couple of snap shots.
2019-06-22 by Larry Meadows
Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry The motor is an early (1960’s) GM window motor and I can not find the info on the regulator. I have a 1970 project car coming on Monday and will trace off the regulator full size and send it to you. Do you need the R.H. glass pattern or outer frame pattern? Send me your mailing address to my yahoo email. Attached is a copy of the BUILD MANUAL for the early cars. It shows how to modify the lift but does not list it in the parts list. Rory might be of some help there. From: GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 6:31 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, any luck with parts numbers for the motors and/or the window pattern for the right side window? Any help would be much appreciated. If anyone out there is part way through a restoration, and would lend the lift mechanisms to me, I would happily make an extra set. It doesn't seem possible to duplicate the parts without a basis better than a couple of snap shots.
2019-06-24 by GH356@...
Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
2019-06-25 by Larry Meadows
High Greg, I know your frustration. Take a picture of each side window so I can better understand the situation. I just took delivery of a 1970 project Marcos. What a mess. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 7:07 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
2019-06-25 by Robert Mann
Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
2019-06-25 by DLC
Hi Greg,
This may not be any help, due to distance but then again it may be and if so could help with the frustration:
http://www.rory.uk.com/Parts%20For%20Later%20Cars.html
I feel sure that Rory would try to help if you contacted him.
Good luck
Colin
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On Tuesday, June 25, 2019, 12:07 am, GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg2019-06-25 by Larry Meadows
Larry, here, Thank y’all for coming to the aid of a frustrated owner. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Robert Mann robert.h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 4:04 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
2019-06-25 by Greg
Hi Greg
What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you.
Regards
Rob
From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help.Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
2019-06-25 by Larry Meadows
Thanks for your reply. Greg is in need of the right hand side glass. Do you have any pictures of the lift mechanism so I can see if it is something I might be able to fabricate for Greg? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: meggsief Meggsief@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:38 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. I came to this thread late. Are you needing a template for window? If so I have a set from my 69 I can trace for you. Regards Hal 5353 Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message -------- From: "Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs]" <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Date: 6/25/19 4:42 AM (GMT-07:00) To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. [2 Attachments] Larry, here, Thank y’all for coming to the aid of a frustrated owner. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Robert Mann robert.h.mann@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 4:04 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
2019-07-29 by Larry Meadows
Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert.h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
2019-07-31 by Greg
Evening, Greg,
I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Regards,
Larry
From: Greg GH356@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs]
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help.
Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg
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On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert.h.mann@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hi Greg
What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you.
Regards
Rob
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help.
Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg
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2019-07-31 by Larry Meadows
Greg, I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components. I am trying to recourse the spring at the present. Will keep you informed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert.h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-07-31 by Adrian Mann
Hi,
I’m in a similar position to Greg as I’m missing one of my window lifters and the other is in extremely poor condition (pressed metal part is badly corroded).
Plan to try and fabricate a replacement set soon as some replacement springs I ordered on eBay 4 weeks ago from China finally arrived in the post today.
Will install the 16mm OD springs into the piece of tube, attach the window channnel to the tube with some metal brackets and then will just have the challenge of fabricating the arm that the spring acts against.
Springs came from eBay and are 16mm OD and 200mm long https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16mm-OD-Green-Heavy-Duty-Compression-Stamping-Mould-Die-Spring-8mm-ID-All-Sizes/283430128264?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=584449173757&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Adrian
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On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 11:32 am, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Greg,
I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components.
I am trying to recourse the spring at the present.
Will keep you informed.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Regards,
LarryFrom: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert..h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-07-31 by Larry Meadows
Thanks, Adrian, We are thinking along the same track. I will order the spring and I have some 4130 aircraft, thin wall tubing. I am going to have the cam cut at my friends waterjet company. Would you like me to send you one? As soon as I get the new belt for my plotter, I can send you the full size layout. Can you open ACAD drawings? Where did you get the window glass channel? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Adrian Mann adrian.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:16 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Hi, I’m in a similar position to Greg as I’m missing one of my window lifters and the other is in extremely poor condition (pressed metal part is badly corroded). Plan to try and fabricate a replacement set soon as some replacement springs I ordered on eBay 4 weeks ago from China finally arrived in the post today. Will install the 16mm OD springs into the piece of tube, attach the window channnel to the tube with some metal brackets and then will just have the challenge of fabricating the arm that the spring acts against. Springs came from eBay and are 16mm OD and 200mm long https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16mm-OD-Green-Heavy-Duty-Compression-Stamping-Mould-Die-Spring-8mm-ID-All-Sizes/283430128264?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=584449173757&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Adrian Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 11:32 am, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Greg, I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components. I am trying to recourse the spring at the present. Will keep you informed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert..h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames.. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-07-31 by Larry Meadows
Adrian, Do you have the original spring out where you can measure the length? It looks like 8 inches in the tube so I would think it would be about 9” un compressed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Adrian Mann adrian.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:16 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Hi, I’m in a similar position to Greg as I’m missing one of my window lifters and the other is in extremely poor condition (pressed metal part is badly corroded). Plan to try and fabricate a replacement set soon as some replacement springs I ordered on eBay 4 weeks ago from China finally arrived in the post today. Will install the 16mm OD springs into the piece of tube, attach the window channnel to the tube with some metal brackets and then will just have the challenge of fabricating the arm that the spring acts against. Springs came from eBay and are 16mm OD and 200mm long https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16mm-OD-Green-Heavy-Duty-Compression-Stamping-Mould-Die-Spring-8mm-ID-All-Sizes/283430128264?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=584449173757&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Adrian Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 11:32 am, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@...m [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Greg, I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components. I am trying to recourse the spring at the present. Will keep you informed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert..h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames.. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-07-31 by Adrian Mann
No need for a cam but thanks for the offer. I just plan to trace it out onto a bit of steel and then spend a bit of time with a grinder and sanding disks. As for the window channels I’ve bought a couple but none are as long as the originals but can’t see that being an issue.
So long as the new lift channel is central so there is an equal amount of glass at the end of it I don’t think I will have a problem.
The two different lift channels I bought were on eBay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Beetle-Type-1-Window-Lift-Channel-873Vg0430-Front/301882320441?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
and
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Lift-Channel-VW-Beetle-Offside-Right-1964-1967/283301741420?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
The second one is longer both have brackets that are no use but not an issue as I’m planning to cut off the brackets below the window channel anyway. As they are from a VW beetle you should be able to find them in the USA.
Not sure how much you have disassembled the window lifter but there is a number of inserts and a bearing in the cam that needs to be manufactured. I own a small lathe so my plan for tomorrow was to make replacements for these.
One thing I have just noticed is the springs I bought are not quite as strong. There is not much difference so just plan to get a slightly longer bolt compress the replacement spring more to compensate.
Adrian’s
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 8:58 pm, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks, Adrian,
We are thinking along the same track. I will order the spring and I have some 4130 aircraft, thin wall tubing. I am going to have the cam cut at my friends waterjet company. Would you like me to send you one?
As soon as I get the new belt for my plotter, I can send you the full size layout. Can you open ACAD drawings?
Where did you get the window glass channel?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Regards,
LarryFrom: Adrian Mann adrian.mann@...m [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:16 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Hi, I’m in a similar position to Greg as I’m missing one of my window lifters and the other is in extremely poor condition (pressed metal part is badly corroded). Plan to try and fabricate a replacement set soon as some replacement springs I ordered on eBay 4 weeks ago from China finally arrived in the post today. Will install the 16mm OD springs into the piece of tube, attach the window channnel to the tube with some metal brackets and then will just have the challenge of fabricating the arm that the spring acts against. Springs came from eBay and are 16mm OD and 200mm long https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16mm-OD-Green-Heavy-Duty-Compression-Stamping-Mould-Die-Spring-8mm-ID-All-Sizes/283430128264?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=584449173757&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Adrian Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 11:32 am, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Greg, I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components. I am trying to recourse the spring at the present. Will keep you informed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert..h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames.. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-07-31 by Adrian Mann
Larry,
Old spring is 8.5” long. Nearest replacement I could find on eBay was 200mm long ( just under 8”). As I mentioned early my replacement spring is slightly weaker but plan to use a 3” long bolt to compress instead of the orginal 2” one. Will also make the tube shorter or the inserts longer at the end of the springs to compensate for the spring being just over 1/2” shorter than the orginal.
Adrian
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 9:56 pm, Adrian Mann <adrian.mann@...> wrote:
No need for a cam but thanks for the offer. I just plan to trace it out onto a bit of steel and then spend a bit of time with a grinder and sanding disks. As for the window channels I’ve bought a couple but none are as long as the originals but can’t see that being an issue.
So long as the new lift channel is central so there is an equal amount of glass at the end of it I don’t think I will have a problem.
The two different lift channels I bought were on eBay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Beetle-Type-1-Window-Lift-Channel-873Vg0430-Front/301882320441?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
and
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Lift-Channel-VW-Beetle-Offside-Right-1964-1967/283301741420?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
The second one is longer both have brackets that are no use but not an issue as I’m planning to cut off the brackets below the window channel anyway. As they are from a VW beetle you should be able to find them in the USA.
Not sure how much you have disassembled the window lifter but there is a number of inserts and a bearing in the cam that needs to be manufactured. I own a small lathe so my plan for tomorrow was to make replacements for these.
One thing I have just noticed is the springs I bought are not quite as strong. There is not much difference so just plan to get a slightly longer bolt compress the replacement spring more to compensate.
Adrian’s
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 8:58 pm, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks, Adrian,
We are thinking along the same track. I will order the spring and I have some 4130 aircraft, thin wall tubing. I am going to have the cam cut at my friends waterjet company. Would you like me to send you one?
As soon as I get the new belt for my plotter, I can send you the full size layout. Can you open ACAD drawings?
Where did you get the window glass channel?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
Regards,
LarryFrom: Adrian Mann adrian.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:16 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Hi, I’m in a similar position to Greg as I’m missing one of my window lifters and the other is in extremely poor condition (pressed metal part is badly corroded). Plan to try and fabricate a replacement set soon as some replacement springs I ordered on eBay 4 weeks ago from China finally arrived in the post today. Will install the 16mm OD springs into the piece of tube, attach the window channnel to the tube with some metal brackets and then will just have the challenge of fabricating the arm that the spring acts against. Springs came from eBay and are 16mm OD and 200mm long https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16mm-OD-Green-Heavy-Duty-Compression-Stamping-Mould-Die-Spring-8mm-ID-All-Sizes/283430128264?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=584449173757&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Adrian Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 11:32 am, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Greg, I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components. I am trying to recourse the spring at the present. Will keep you informed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert..h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames.. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-07-31 by Larry Meadows
Thanks for all the info, Adrian. I do not want to disassemble the unit that I have as it is on loan to me for dimensions and pattern. If I can help in any way, don’t hesitate to let me know. BTW, the glass is not standard thickness (about .125 th) and tempered on the later models. Check before using a standard window channel, it may be too wide to hold the glass. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Adrian Mann adrian.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 6:19 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, Old spring is 8.5” long. Nearest replacement I could find on eBay was 200mm long ( just under 8”). As I mentioned early my replacement spring is slightly weaker but plan to use a 3” long bolt to compress instead of the orginal 2” one. Will also make the tube shorter or the inserts longer at the end of the springs to compensate for the spring being just over 1/2” shorter than the orginal. Adrian Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 9:56 pm, Adrian Mann <adrian.mann@...> wrote: No need for a cam but thanks for the offer. I just plan to trace it out onto a bit of steel and then spend a bit of time with a grinder and sanding disks. As for the window channels I’ve bought a couple but none are as long as the originals but can’t see that being an issue. So long as the new lift channel is central so there is an equal amount of glass at the end of it I don’t think I will have a problem. The two different lift channels I bought were on eBay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Beetle-Type-1-Window-Lift-Channel-873Vg0430-Front/301882320441?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Window-Lift-Channel-VW-Beetle-Offside-Right-1964-1967/283301741420?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 The second one is longer both have brackets that are no use but not an issue as I’m planning to cut off the brackets below the window channel anyway. As they are from a VW beetle you should be able to find them in the USA. Not sure how much you have disassembled the window lifter but there is a number of inserts and a bearing in the cam that needs to be manufactured. I own a small lathe so my plan for tomorrow was to make replacements for these. One thing I have just noticed is the springs I bought are not quite as strong. There is not much difference so just plan to get a slightly longer bolt compress the replacement spring more to compensate. Adrian’s Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 8:58 pm, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Thanks, Adrian, We are thinking along the same track. I will order the spring and I have some 4130 aircraft, thin wall tubing. I am going to have the cam cut at my friends waterjet company. Would you like me to send you one? As soon as I get the new belt for my plotter, I can send you the full size layout. Can you open ACAD drawings? Where did you get the window glass channel? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Adrian Mann adrian..mann@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 3:16 PM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Hi, I’m in a similar position to Greg as I’m missing one of my window lifters and the other is in extremely poor condition (pressed metal part is badly corroded). Plan to try and fabricate a replacement set soon as some replacement springs I ordered on eBay 4 weeks ago from China finally arrived in the post today. Will install the 16mm OD springs into the piece of tube, attach the window channnel to the tube with some metal brackets and then will just have the challenge of fabricating the arm that the spring acts against. Springs came from eBay and are 16mm OD and 200mm long https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16mm-OD-Green-Heavy-Duty-Compression-Stamping-Mould-Die-Spring-8mm-ID-All-Sizes/283430128264?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=584449173757&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Adrian Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 11:32 am, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Greg, I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components. I am trying to recourse the spring at the present. Will keep you informed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@...m [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@yahoo.com [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert..h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames.. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-08-01 by Larry Meadows
Good morning, Greg, I have found most of the materials foe the lifts and thanks to I know where to purchase the springs. The tubing, plate, bolts and hardware add up to 65.45. I will get the cost for water jet cutting the cams and the welding of the assembly the first of next week. They are on vacation until Aug. 8th. No charge for the blue print design and layout. There will be a 20.00/ hour final assy charge. Should not take more than 3 or 4 hrs. If this is acceptable, I will order the materials in. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@yahoo.com [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 6:32 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Greg, I do not have any estimate on the cost. I hve to design the best way to build it as the original is made of press formed steel. Have considered molding it from KEVLAR or cutting, machining and welling the components. I am trying to recourse the spring at the present. Will keep you informed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert..h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@hotmail.com [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
2019-08-22 by Larry Meadows
Good day, Greg, I have the water jeted cams. They were only 30.00. I have decided to make the assembly from carbon fiber. I have the plug made so I hope to make the molds this weekend.I am still waiting for the springs. I have machined the bushes for the cams and have the followers cut. The glass channels are still under consideration as to make them or keep trying to find the correct size on line. They have to be for 1/8” glass and I have been able to find only the standard 1/4” channels. Will keep you posted as I proceed. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry
From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 4:14 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Larry, that would be fantastic. Any idea about the cost to do so? Thanks. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2019, at 6:26 PM, Larry Meadows lmeadowsw@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Evening, Greg, I have the use of a window lift to use as a pattern. It has been loaned to me by Dave Mensh. Do you still need a pair of lifts? If so, I will start blueprinting so I can fabricate the unit. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Regards, Larry From: Greg GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 11:35 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Rob, that would be most helpful. Mine is a '68 (registered as a '69) 1600 GT woodie as well. Greg Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Robert Mann robert.h.mann@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi Greg What year car and is it a woody as I've got my frames out at the moment mine is a 1968 1690gt woody non elect windows if this is the same as yours I can take a pattern and send it to you. Regards Rob Get Outlook for Android <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of GH356@... [MarcosManiacs] <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2019 12:07:41 AM To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 1600 GT side window help. Ah, Larry I wish I knew the answer. Frankly, I'm so frustrated that the otherwise fantastic car has begun to loose its attraction for me. It's been about 5 years in progress, and there is light at the end of the tunnel, but I'm almost ready to throw in the towel. It's a late '68 and totally stock. The restorer lost the glass on the right side, and the window lift mechanisms for both sides. Guessing the window shape won't change, but I don't know which shape to tell you. I do have the original frames. But have yet to figure out how they mount. I'll try the early corvette lift mechanisms. Again, thanks for your help. Greg <60FEE0C856434160A0A99A6237B82B98.png> <C31A70D7828642C4BEB0A9DCC29FB9E8.png>
