Marcos Maniacs

 From: Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]
  
 
   
 
 
[Attachment(s) from Steinpom included below]  
Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.
 
Hello folks,
 
Happy Friday the 13th.
 
 
Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.
 
Danny

 From: Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]
  
 
   
 
 
[Attachment(s) from Steinpom included below]  
Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.
 
Hello folks,
 
Happy Friday the 13th.
 
 
Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.
 
Danny

 From: larry meadows <lmeadowsw@...>
To: "MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com" <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [2 Attachments]
  
 
   
 
 
[Attachment(s) from larry meadows included below]  
Danny,
Check your lower control arms and be sure that there is a triangular tab on the forward arm on left and right sides. This is a mounting point for a stabilizer bar used on the Triumph but the Marcos only used the bar on racing cars and not street cars. It must be on the forward arm to locate the wheels in the correct location.
The 2 pics are the best I can do without removing the wheel liner. the1st is the left side from the front lookong aft and the other is the right side.
You might not be able to see what I am trying to show you and my car is the steel frame 1970, but the attach points are similar.
 

Best Regards, 
Larry
 

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 From: Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]
  
  
Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.
 
Hello folks,
 
Happy Friday the 13th.
 
 
Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.
 
Danny

From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larry meadows
Sent: September-14-13 3:16 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [2 Attachments]

 

  

[Attachment(s) from larry meadows included below] 

Danny,

Check your lower control arms and be sure that there is a triangular tab on the forward arm on left and right sides. This is a mounting point for a stabilizer bar used on the Triumph but the Marcos only used the bar on racing cars and not street cars. It must be on the forward arm to locate the wheels in the correct location.

The 2 pics are the best I can do without removing the wheel liner. the1st is the left side from the front lookong aft and the other is the right side.

You might not be able to see what I am trying to show you and my car is the steel frame 1970, but the attach points are similar.

 

 

Best Regards,

Larry

 

From: Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]

  

Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.

 

Hello folks,

 

Happy Friday the 13th.

 

 

Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.

 

Danny

 From: Ron McLeod <ronald.mcleod@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [1 Attachment]
  
 
   
 
 
[Attachment(s) from Ron McLeod included below]  
Here’s what it should look like – photo from the restoration of my ’70 GT
 
Regards . . . Ron McLeod
Marcos Mantis P8/5858
Marcos 3L GT 3V-5642
 
From:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larry meadows
Sent: September-14-13 3:16 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [2 Attachments]
 
  
[Attachment(s) from larry meadows included below] 
Danny,
Check your lower control arms and be sure that there is a triangular tab on the forward arm on left and right sides. This is a mounting point for a stabilizer bar used on the Triumph but the Marcos only used the bar on racing cars and not street cars. It must be on the forward arm to locate the wheels in the correct location.
The 2 pics are the best I can do without removing the wheel liner. the1st is the left side from the front lookong aft and the other is the right side.
You might not be able to see what I am trying to show you and my car is the steel frame 1970, but the attach points are similar.
 
 
Best Regards,
Larry
 
From:Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]
  
Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.
 
Hello folks,
 
Happy Friday the 13th.
 
 
Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.
 
Danny

 From: Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]
  
 
   
 
 
[Attachment(s) from Steinpom included below]  
Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.
 
Hello folks,
 
Happy Friday the 13th.
 
 
Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.
 
Danny

From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larry meadows
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:56 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis

 

  

Danny,

 I fabbed the flex brake hose attach bracket and will post them to you soon. They fix under the forward upper control arn bolt. See picture that Ron posted.

 

 

Best Regards,

Larry

 

From: Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]

  

Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.

 

Hello folks,

 

Happy Friday the 13th.

 

 

Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.

 

Danny

 From: Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:07 AM
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis
  
   
 
Larry,
 
I went and saw the car today.  I think I already have those brackets.  I’ll sort through todays pictures tomorrow for you to look at.  A chassis guy came in today and spent quite a bit of time scratching his head.  Its clear the wheels have to come back about 2”.  But the bonnet and the main body align and close perfectly  and the tabs are on the front lower a-arm.  So, its hard to figure out what has been altered from the factory dimensions so that that could be undone and done right.
 
Danny.   
 
From:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larry meadows
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:56 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis
 
  
Danny,
 I fabbed the flex brake hose attach bracket and will post them to you soon. They fix under the forward upper control arn bolt. See picture that Ron posted.
 
 
Best Regards,
Larry
 
From:Steinpom <steinpom@...>
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 8:04 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] FW: front wheels clearance issue a6oo gt wooden chassis [3 Attachments]
  
Whoops, I forgot to attach the photos.
 
Hello folks,
 
Happy Friday the 13th.
 
 
Here’s a bit of a mystery hopefully some of the smart ones on the list can help solve.  After lining up the bonnet on the car and installing the front suspension, there are major clearance issues.  I sending a long a few pictures to show how too far to the front the wheel is is the fender opening.  When pointed straight ahead I can’t even insert a finger into the tightest part of the gap.  And that’s without the weight of the engine and transmission which are still out of the car.  Its so far forward that on almost full lock, the wheel runs under the headslight housing and trie to push the hood up.   It was close when I took the car apart 30+ years ago, but not this bad.  What have I done wrong????  All suggestions for a fix are most welcome.
 
Danny