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RE: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT rear suspension chassis - 5201 [1 Attachment]

2013-07-17 by Steinpom

Thanks Peter.  I was able to open and save the one photo of the rear
suspension diagram.  Does anyone have a photo of the shock mount bracket and
the bracket for the end of the panhard rod?

 

Danny

 

From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of P Fischer
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:34 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT rear suspension chassis - 5201 [1
Attachment]

 

  

[Attachment(s) from P Fischer included below] 

hi again

 

Not sure if attached images work; if so, to my knowledge the image shows the
ford axle that I had in my 1600GT. modified, of course, for the radius rods

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Steinpom <mailto:steinpom@...>  

To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:04 PM

Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT rear suspension chassis - 5201

 

  

Hello Richard,

I would really appreciate some photos, especially of the panhard rod
connections and the area around the rear shock   mounts.  I still have the
old mounts which were slightly twisted when I took them off as they seem to
have been made from a fairly light guage sheet metal with no gussets or
other stiffeners.  I had much heavier ones made up which I also still have.
Speaking only from memory, I seem to recall that there was another bracket
that was also mounted with one of the shock mount bolts and then an
additional bolt.  Does your car have this, or is my mind playing tricks.  If
its there what is it for?  I was such an idiot for not taking photos - but I
did anticipate the car being put back together right away at that time.
Having now restored 2 other cars I now know these projects can be measured
in decades unless tackled almost full-time.

Anyhow much gratitude for any help.  Pictures of my car in pieces can be
seen on marcosmaniacs.

Danny 

From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoo groups.com
<mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoo%20groups.com> ] On Behalf Of Richard Brengman
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:08 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT rear suspension chassis - 5201

  

I have not taken mine very far apart yet.

Rear suspension is still all original and intact.

Pics will be awkward but possible since it's in an attic.

Actually pretty simple, odd arrangement to the locating arms but it works
fine until the mount s begin to auger out.

You will want to reinforce the attachments.

Loads of info on the wood chassis cars at the U.K. Marcos site,
http://marcossportscarenthusiasts.yuku.com/ 

They are particularly fond of the wood cars.

There is a full restoration thread there with loads of excellent pictures.






On Jul 13, 2013, at 11:08 PM, Steinpom wrote:






  

Hello Peter,

Great to get such a quick response.  My problem is that I took the car apart
(it was complete when I got it) about 25 at least years ago.. like most
people I did not anticipate so many years to pass before getting back to the
project.  I foolishly did not take many photos as it was coming apart.  Then
a young friend of my kids decided to do me a favour and tidy up the variou s
piles of car parts I had in the basement and garage.  What he did not
realize was that parts were in various locations because they belonged to
various cars I have.  Hard to get mad at someone who's trying to do a favour
but..  Anyhow, time and the mixing up of parts has not ma! de the
restoration any easier.  I'm told that there never was an official factory
build manual for this model, but I'm hoping someone has a lead on something.
I have a number of TORQUE club magazines which have some info, but maybe one
I don't have would be more to the point.  Enough ranting for tonight.
Copies of any pictures you might still have of the 1600 mechanicals or
suspension would be nice.

Danny

From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of P Fischer
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:42 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT rear suspension chassis - 5201

  

Hi Danny

No idea if this reaches you, but here we go. I owned a 67 wooden chassis and
regret for ever selling it.

around 40 years after, I have now imported a steel chassis 3.9ltr around 80
model from GB. And it exhibits all the flaws I always knew about. Heavy as,
with an engine that has not zip (albeit 3.9 ltr) and a feel like driving a
tank.  The wooden chasis GT1600 I owned was nimble as. 

But as to details? I am now amazed at how little information is available
about any of these cars. And I mean in detail: what is the rear axle, the
front suspension, and so on. My earlier GT1600 had a Ford rear axle (a Ford
1660 engine and gear box and GT6, Herald or Spitfire front end stuff.

chers

Peter

----- Original Message ----- 

From: steinpom@... 

To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 

Sent:< /span> Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:15 PM

Subject: [MarcosManiacs] 1600 GT rear suspension chassis - 5201

  

After about 25 years of being apart I'm about to try and gather up all the
parts and do a loose reassembly of the car to see if I still have all the
pieces. The ca! r will then be taken apart again to finish the body
restoration and get painted. The immediate need is for some detailed photos
and/or diagrams of the rear suspension and associated brackets etc etc for a
wood hulled 1600 GT. Any other manuals or instructions would be most
appreciated. The only build manual I can find on the internet is for the
later tube frame chassis. Were there significant changes to the suspension
when the GT went from wood chassis to metal tube?

Thanks for the tips, advise and wisdom.

Danny


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