Marcos Maniacs

Hi guys,
It is worth doing some research on door seals and trims. Although the ones that are sold for a particular vehicle may be the correct pattern, the materials used today may not be similar to the original specifications. I fitted new seals around the doors of a 1953 Austin A30 I just finished restoring but the material is not compliant and the doors would not close. I eventually sourced something for a Mini door surround that did the job and would compress enough for the door to close. I still haven't found a suitable replacement for the seal that fits the door itself! If the door gap is too large for the original pattern of seal to keep water out, there may be others that can be substituted without compromising originality of appearance. Here is a list of suppliers in the UK with extensive ranges of mouldings and seals.

http://www.coh-baines.co.uk/

http://www.classiccar-trim.com/

http://www.rubbertrim.co.uk/

http://www.woolies-trim.co.uk/

Good luck.
John in Vancouver BC

--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, larry meadows wrote:
>
> Geir Olav and Juan,
> Is the door seal a round bulb seal or the sort of lip seal?
> I ordered my seal from J.C. Whitney in Chicago. It is the round bulb type. The factory seal leaves spaces on the driver side (Left). The only problem, The larger seal makes it harder to close the door, but it seals tight.
> If you decide to change it, I will send you the part number.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Larry
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: geirooye
> >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 6:31 AM
> >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Pics needed please of trim around door opening on a 1970ish GT
> >
> >
> >Â
> >
> >Hi Juan - and the others out there.
> >I am Geir Olav in Norway and I did a full resto on my car some years ago. I didn't build a special stand for the body though, and I bought the "standard" rubber seals from Rory in England for my project. It doesn't seal the water completely out though, but that is not because of bad rubber seals. More due to the fact that the door itself is too far away from the rest of the body in due to lack of adjusting possibility and bad fit from the factory.
> >
> >The complete resto can be seen in this link:
> >
> >http://www.oye.no/Marcos.htm
> >
> >Best regards
> >Geir Olav
> >
> >--- In mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com, larry meadows wrote:
> >;>
> >> Juan,
> >> That might have been Gier Olaf, in Norway.Ã\u201aÂ
> >> If you don't hear from him,Ã\u201a I will send you the pics of my car.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Larry
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Juan Gerrits > >> >To: mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 4:38 AM
> >> >Subject: FW: [MarcosManiacs] Pics needed please of trim around door opening on a 1970ish GT
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >
> >> >Hi Larry,
> >> >A while afgo one of the builders but a lot of before, and after
> >> pics on where he actually removed the body, painted the frame and built a stand
> >> for the body. Can you tell me who it was and where I can see these pics again
> >> >Thanks
> >> >Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >Juan
> >> >South Africa
> >> >Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >From:mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com
> >> [mailto:mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larry meadows
> >> >;Sent: 18 October 2012 09:10 PM
> >> >To: mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com
> >> >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Pics needed please of trim around door
> >> opening on a 1970ish GT
> >> >Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >ÂÂ
> >> >Steve,
> >> >The factory seal has a closed round seal and some other seals have
> >> a curved lip seal. On the curved lip, I had to add a 1/8 x 3/8" soft
> >> rubber strip behind the lip to make it meet the windscreen post when the door
> >> is closed.
> >> >Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >Best Regards,
> >> >Larry
> >> >Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>From:Mark
> >> Doubet
> >>; >>To: mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com
> >> >;>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:43 PM
> >> >>Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Pics needed please of trim around door
> >> opening on a 1970ish GT
> >> >>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>Steve I
> >> just finished my 3L restore. Seal from Rory was a two part. First the u shaped
> >> to trim the opening then a seperate D shaped rubber that is then glued in
> >> place. If you email them they will send a few pictures of how to install. If no
> >> luck let me know and I can resend what they sent me.
> >> >>Mark
> >> >;>On Oct
> >> 18, 2012 10:31 AM, "larry meadows"
> >> wrote:
> >> >>ÂÂ
> >> >>Steve,
> >> >>The rubber seal (kind of 'L' shape) looks like something that was
>; >> added after it left the factory. I have worked on 3Ã\u201a 1970's Marcos and
> >> have not seen that seal on any of them. Two of the cars were only 1 year old
> >> when I did the work on them (one of which is my own).
> >> >>Ã218;Â
> >> >>Best Regards,
> >> >>Larry
> >> >>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>From:Ron McLeod
> >> >>>To: mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com
> >> >;>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:52 AM
> >> >>>Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Pics needed please of trim around door
> >> opening on a 1970ish GT
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>Steve . . .
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>I got the Bristleflex door seal material from Martin MacGregor
> >> at MacGregor British Car Parts:Ã\u201a http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/
> >;> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>The company is based here in Ontario, Canada.
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>Regards . . . Ron McLeod
> >> >>>Marcos Mantis P8/5858
> >> >>>Marcos 3L GT 3V-5642
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>Ã\u201a ;
> >> >>>From:mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larry meadows
> >> >>>Sent: October-18-12 10:10 AM
> >> >>>To: mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com
> >>; >>>Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Pics needed please of trim around door
> >> opening on a 1970ish GT
> >> >>;>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>Steve,
> >> >>>Depending on where you live, The least expensive solution would be
> >> to order the seal from Rory at Heritage.
> >> >>>I used the Fur flex in the last Marcos I did for Ron McCleod, that
> >> he purchaced from a supplier he deal with. He wanted the seal to match the
> >> interior (blue), so used the blue covered seal.
> >> >>>When installing the seal, the starting and ending point is the
> >> square, lower front corner of the opening.
> >> >>>There should be a 3" piece if vinyl trim that is face glued
> >> to the 'down' lip of the aluminum door sill trim (back side), That closes out
> >> the gap between the sill and the pinch weld where the seal goes. The
> >> vinylÃ\u201a is held by the seal.
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>Best
> >> Regards,
> >> >>>Larry
> >> >>>3v5536
> >> >>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>>From:Stevefzr
> >> >>>>To: mailto:MarcosManiacs%40yahoogroups.com
> >> >>>>Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:10 AM
> >> >>>>Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Pics needed please of trim around door opening
> >> on a 1970ish GT
> >> >>>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >>>>Ã\u201a;Â
> >> >>>>Hi Folks,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I'm making progress putting my 1970 3000GT back together. I'm ready to start
> >> putting the interior back in, but I don't have the original seals around the
> >> door opening so I don't know what to buy. There's a typical seam that goes all
> >> around the door opening. The seam is overlapped with the interior trim, so I
> >> expect that it should have a "U" shaped pinch channel like furflex,
> >> with a rubber seal on one side. The thing is, there are thousands of different
> >> profiles, and if I get the wrong one, either the seal woun't work or the door
> >> won't close properly. Can someone either point me to a supplier of the right
> >> seal, or a photo or drawing? Also, I found one piece of flat sponge rubber about
> >> 1" wide by 1/3" thick that looks like it fits at the top front edge
> >> of the door, just below the door glass. I'm not sure if this was an extra seal
> >> at this point to stop rain that runs back along the bonnet, or if this seal
> >>; should have gone all the way around the door opening. If the latter, then I
> >> assume there was still some sort of pinch trim to cover the seam.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Here's some pics of the seam with the interior vinyl overlapping it, plus the
> >> bit of rubber seal that I found.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/stevefzr/marcos/trim%20oct%202012/IMG_0873.jpg
> >> >>>>http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/stevefzr/marcos/trim%20oct%202012/IMG_0874.jpg
> >> >>>>http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/stevefzr/marcos/trim%20oct%202012/IMG_0875.jpg
> >> >>>>http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/stevefzr/marcos/trim%20oct%202012/IMG_0872.jpg
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Does anyone know of an assembled Marcos in Victoria or South Australia I can
> >> have a look at?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Regards,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Steve C.
> >> >>>>steve_mailto:fzr2%40yahoo.co.uk
> >> >>>>Ã\u201aÂ
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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