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Re: 3L5365

2003-05-12 by Dave Barton

Jac
  No problem.......I occasionally do not explain myself properly , 
ask my ex wife.........actually I came to Canada from Birminbham 27 
years ago 
    Cheers DAVE #5577


--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Myers" <jacob@m...> wrote:
> Hello Dave
> Well there we are then, it was worth the print.
> Now I understand. You have to make allowances for an English man. 
Sounds good to me.
> Best regards  Jac
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Dave Barton 
>   To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 1:33 AM
>   Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 3L5365
> 
> 
> 
>   Hi Jac
>     Criticism it is not........I DO understand the purpose of the 
>   radius rods and I have NOT changed the design in any way....my 
car 
>   being a steel chassis car I do not see the purpose of bolting 
through 
>   a thin fibreglass panel albeit with a steel strap sandwiched in 
>   there .......what I have done is eliminated the possibility of 
not 
>   being able to get those bolts out in the future because I can now 
>   drive them out from inside the trunk(if you have ever had to take 
>   these bolts out on a steel chassis car you will appreciate what I 
>   have done)..........just a rebuttal thats all!
>           Cheers Dave
>   PS Jac , after rereading your post I don't think you quite got 
what I 
>   have done.....the radius rods are still attatched to the chassis 
with 
>   through bolts at the origional places, just not through the trunk 
>   walls........where they did pass through the trunk walls that is 
>   where I cut a slot(in the fibreglass)and made a channel to cover 
the 
>   slot .I origionally thought of this because now I can have a 
fully 
>   assembled chassis without the body on the frame.......otherwise I 
>   would have to wait until the body was on the frame before I could 
>   attatch the rear radius rods. Bye
> 
> 
>   --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Myers" <jacob@m...> 
wrote:
>   > Hello Dave 
>   > PLEASE don't take this the wrong way.
>   > But why do you feel it necessary to change the design of the 
radius 
>   arm fixing? I ask out of interest.
>   > My view is (for your interest). The radius arms are there to 
>   transmit the motion of the axle to the chassis. the reason for 
top 
>   and bottom arms is to control tramping on acceleration ( the 
twisting 
>   of the axle). That is why the arms pass through the body to share 
out 
>   the load on the wood back and forth. The upside is that the 
securing 
>   nuts are in the boot out of harms way (wet and muck).
>   > If I under stand your set up the loading is on screws which in 
the 
>   fullness of time could work loose.
>   > I trust this does not sound like a criticism. And just the chat 
it 
>   is intended .
>   > Best regards   Jac
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: Dave Barton 
>   >   To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
>   >   Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 6:29 PM
>   >   Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: 3L5365
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Welcome Pat, hello everyone
>   >     Speaking of the radius rods at the rear,it seems to me that 
the 
>   >   radius rods do not need to be tied into the body in the 
trunk, 
>   its 
>   >   not like the car is a unibody and needs the body to give the 
frame
>   >   rigidity.  What I have done is cut a slot in the area where 
the 2 
>   >   bolts per side go through the body and into the frame where 
the 
>   >   radius rods connect and formed an aluminum channel that 
covers 
>   this 
>   >   slot I applied some body sealer around the slot and screwed 
the 
>   >   channel into place.......now if those bolts ever have to come 
out 
>   I 
>   >   simply remove that channel and access them........the only 
other 
>   >   reason I can see why you needed a through bolt there is to 
bolt 
>   down 
>   >   the body.........
>   >   am I seeing that right?
>   >          Cheers Dave #5577    
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, <patemery@s...> wrote:
>   >   > Hi Don!
>   >   > 
>   >   > Sorry for the delay in answering your message. My Marcos is 
a 
>   1969 
>   >   model with wooden chassis. The 13" magnesium wheels have been 
>   >   sandblasted (low pressure) and painted the common silver-gray 
>   with 
>   >   clear coat. The center hub cap are my design and are machined 
>   from 
>   >   stainless steel material. The chrome wing is bolted to the 
cap. I 
>   got 
>   >   the wings from J.C.Whitney. I got tired to see stress cracks 
on 
>   the 
>   >   bonnet (hood) caused by the air filter rubbing on it so I 
>   replaced 
>   >   the wire mesh air cleaner with a paper element one from 
>   Mr.Gasket. I 
>   >   cut a round opening in the bonnet just big enough to clear. 
This 
>   was 
>   >   a temporary measure as I intended to rework the bulge 
slightly 
>   higher 
>   >   to clear the filter. That was five years ago! I have also 
added a 
>   >   full length skid plate from the radiator to the back of the 
>   gearbox; 
>   >   steel reinforcement in the trunk for the radius arms; an 
>   aluminium 
>   >   shaped to the countour of the trunk floor and bolted to it. 
It 
>   extend 
>   >   past the axle and is bolted to the floorunder the trunk 
cockpit 
>   >   floor. 2" stainless steel dual exhaust pipe are attached to 
the 
>   >   headers. No mufflers. Just glass-pack dual exhaust tips. I 
also 
>   >   fabricated a cooling fan schrowd(?)to help cooling. The 
engine is 
>   a 
>   >   3L Ford Essex V6 that had been upgraded to Stage 2 
performance by 
>   >   Specialized Engine in U.K (by the previous owner, Ted 
MacGregor). 
>   >   There is a roll bar inside. It has yet to be confirmed that 
it is 
>   the 
>   >   only 1969 LHD wooden chassis equipped with a Ford V6. And as 
for 
>   the 
>   >   chrome trim around the headlamp covers, they are simply Slide-
>   over 
>   >   Door Edge Protection that you can buy anywhere. It fits best 
when 
>   it 
>   >   is warm. 
>   >   > Have a nice week-end.
>   >   > Pat
>   >   > > 
>   >   > > From: "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...>
>   >   > > Date: 2003/05/09 Fri AM 11:32:29 EST
>   >   > > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>   >   > > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Alloy hub supplier
>   >   > > 
>   >   > >
>   > 
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