Marcos Maniacs

Thanks Don,
it does seem that I will have to move the mounting on the right side 
forward 6 or so inches, this should be fairly straight forward I 
hope!!

Cheers

Ashley

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Don Lattimer" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Ashley,
> 
> Looked at my engine mounts last night for the V6 and they are not 
offset.  Both mounts appear to be equidistant from the front of the 
car.  
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3m5759 V6
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: a5h_pm 
>   To: MarcosManiacs@y... 
>   Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 11:16 AM
>   Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: V6 Engine
> 
> 
>   Hi Mark/Don et al.
> 
>   I've now spoken to Rory, and I tought I ought to share what I've 
>   found out with you guys just in case any of it is useful!
> 
>   The exhaust manifolds I have ARE identical! This is because they 
are 
>   the wrong ones! (they were for the Scimitar and may even be 
specific 
>   to that car, the ones that I need and you guys with the V6 have 
are 
>   from the Ford Zodiac and ARE both different! they were turned 
round 
>   from the original instalation to face forward instead of 
backwards.
>   Now I've also asked Rory about the tubular manifolds he can 
supply 
>   instead, these do not require any modification to the footwells 
as 
>   has been mentioned here in the past, this is only the case for 
the V8 
>   instalation in which case approx 1/2inch adjustment is required.
> 
>   As for the engine mounts it would appear that on the V6 the 
mounting 
>   points on the chassis are both in the same position which is just 
>   behind the wishbone mounting point closed to the footwell. Does 
this 
>   make sense to you guys and could you please confirm this for me 
so I 
>   can move my right hand mounting.
> 
>   My next question to Rory was regarding the use of my Ford Corsair 
>   2000E 4speed gearbox, Rory advised me (as many of you have mind), 
>   that I should definatley ditch this for either a 4 speed 
overdrive or 
>   a 5speed Granada box (as fitted to the last Granada's with the 
Essex 
>   engine). Can anyone enlighten me as to any suggest upgrade route 
they 
>   may have taken with this one?
> 
>   What I have learned today has obviously put my ETD (estimated 
time to 
>   Drive ;) ) back some what, but I am sure I will bounch back!
> 
>   Thanks for all your help guys even thoughyou thought I was mad 
>   earlier with the exhaust question - thankfully I now understand 
why 
>   you would have thought this :)
> 
>   Cheers
>   Ashley
>   #5504
> 
>   www.molyneuxs.com
> 
> 
> 
>   --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "a5h_pm" <ashley_molyneux@h...> wrote:
>   > Hi Mark/Don,
>   > 
>   > I can confirm that the engine does have the cast type headers, 
but 
>   I 
>   > as I am not close to the engine now I can not confirm (or 
deny!) 
>   what 
>   > is being said to me about them! I can however say that from my 
now 
>   > some what confused memory looking from above with the front of 
the 
>   > engine furthest away from me, the left header exits between 
>   cylinders 
>   > 5 and 6, and the right hand header exits between 1 and 2, so 
>   turning 
>   > the manifold through 180degrees would acheive the same on 
either 
>   > side?...... OK I've just drawn myself a diagram and I could be 
so 
>   > wrong that I am gong to shut up until I can verify whay I am 
>   saying! 
>   > Can you confirm that looking from above the engine the exhaust 
>   > headers both exit an imaginary line exactly perpendicular to 
the 
>   > chassis though? (ie for example not just at the centre of 
Cylinders 
>   2 
>   > & 5 which are off set)
>   > 
>   > Thanks for you help guys! (and for putting doubt even in my own 
>   mind 
>   > now!!)
>   > 
>   > My next problem to overcome is the engine mountings - I am 
speaking 
>   > to Rory at Marcos Heritage today so hopefully this will soon 
also 
>   be 
>   > cleared up!
>   > 
>   > Cheers
>   > 
>   > Ashley
>   > #5504
>   > 
>   > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mark_saxby" <mark.saxby@n...> wrote:
>   > > That may depend on whether these are the original ones.
>   > > 
>   > > Ashley, are they tubular or cast? If cast, they're almost 
>   certainly 
>   > > as Don describes, but if tubular, they may be symmetrical to 
mate 
>   > to 
>   > > a specific exhaust system. I know that Capri GT (Ford ones) 
>   tubular 
>   > > manifolds are NOT symmetrical, btw, they mate up in the same 
way, 
>   > but 
>   > > are much bulkier than the cast ones and don't fit in the 
Marcos 
>   > > engine bay (not without much cutting, anyway, which I didn't 
do!)
>   > > 
>   > > Cheers.
>   > > 
>   > > Mark
>   > > 
>   > > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
>   > > > Ashley,
>   > > > 
>   > > > Take a good look at your headers.  They can't be 
identical.  If 
>   > you 
>   > > > remove one side and move it to the other side, the outlet 
will 
>   be 
>   > > > forward.  Think about it.  
>   > > > 
>   > > > I'll check my engine mounts tonight and let you know how 
mine's 
>   > set 
>   > > > up.
>   > > > 
>   > > > Don Lattimer
>   > > > #3m5759
>   > > > Willits, CA
>   > > > 
>   > > > 
>   > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "a5h_pm" <ashley_molyneux@h...> 
>   wrote:
>   > > > > Hi again guys, stupid question time!
>   > > > > I am as you or may not know, converting my V4 car into a 
V6 
>   > car. 
>   > > > > This to me was a straight forward task! Anyway today 
finally 
>   > > after 
>   > > > > many years I finally managed to manually turn the V6 over 
by 
>   > > hand, 
>   > > > > it has been standing since 1985 so was a little bit 
>   difficult! 
>   > > > > (diesel left in th bores for a couple of weeks works 
wonders 
>   by 
>   > > > the 
>   > > > > way guys should you ever need to do the same). Anyway 
while 
>   > > > studying 
>   > > > > the engines side by side I noticed that the V4 mountings 
were 
>   > off 
>   > > > > set, yet the V6 mountings appear to be in the same place 
on 
>   the 
>   > > > > chassis on both sides. So question, those of you with the 
>   Ford 
>   > V6 
>   > > > > could you please confirm the position of the engine 
mounts 
>   both 
>   > > on 
>   > > > > the chassis and if possible which bolt holes are used on 
the 
>   > > > engine 
>   > > > > casting.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Next question relates to the exhaust manifolds. I've read 
>   that 
>   > to 
>   > > > > use the original V6 engine it was necessary to swop the 
>   > manifolds 
>   > > > > over, now this implies that both manifolds are different. 
The 
>   > > ones 
>   > > > > ont the engine I have (from a Scimtar GTE) are both 
identical 
>   > so 
>   > > > > swoping them over would have no effect! The actual 
position 
>   of 
>   > > the 
>   > > > > outlets is once again looking from above is symetrical 
and 
>   lies 
>   > > > > behind the engine moutings.
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > I am not sure if anyone on this group has actually caried 
out 
>   > the 
>   > > > V4 
>   > > > > to V6 swop if you have I would love to hear from you!
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Many thanks for all your help once again guys!
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Marcos motoring days are at last getting closer for me!
>   > > > > 
>   > > > > Cheers
>   > > > > Ashley #5504
>   > > > > www.molyneuxs.com for latest progress!
> 
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