Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hey, has anyone mastered the key-switching on the Rare Instruments  
package so many of us bought last week?  I had never heard of key- 
switching before but assumed that if you hit a certain key, all  
subsequent notes are with a different articulation.  I think that has  
been working for me, but once switched, I can't get back the original  
articulations.  I assumed that hitting the other note listed in the  
file name would switch back, but no luck.  So now I don't know if  
doing the initial switch intentionally or randomly.

Would anyone mind a little primer here?

Thanks,


Gregory

I'm not sure about the key switching but they are good sounding samples. The 
one thing that seemed funny was the Taiko drums, where there are a number of 
different patches, each which only plays on one key.



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What's your problem? Works fine. The idea: Low keys(normally so low  
they aren't on your typical 5-octave MIDI leyboard) switch between  
programs. Transpose your KB one or two ocatevs down(watch the MIDI in  
field in the transport bar), now you will be able to switch and play  
the switched programs in the octaves above the switch zone.

HTH,

Zip(is enjoying his Giga rare instruments, although they're just a  
small subset of the whole rare collection)
Zip Boterbloem
Media Mechanics
Zwaluwstraat 54
2025 VR  Haarlem
The Netherlands
+31627014758
zip@...





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I've only got a short keyboard, is there any way to assign the key switching to some other 
control signal to have access to this fetyure in a "live" performance?

Mige

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Zip Boterbloem <zip@...> wrote:

>
> What's your problem? Works fine. The idea: Low keys(normally so low  
> they aren't on your typical 5-octave MIDI leyboard) switch between  
> programs. Transpose your KB one or two ocatevs down(watch the MIDI in  
> field in the transport bar), now you will be able to switch and play  
> the switched programs in the octaves above the switch zone.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Zip(is enjoying his Giga rare instruments, although they're just a  
> small subset of the whole rare collection)
> Zip Boterbloem
> Media Mechanics
> Zwaluwstraat 54
> 2025 VR  Haarlem
> The Netherlands
> +31627014758
> zip@...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I would assume you could put together some objects in the environment  
to convert any specific controller to play the key-switching note.   
If you have a drum pad on your controller, you could just assign the  
note value to that pad without even delving into the envronment.

Gregory

On Mar 4, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Nigel Robinson wrote:

> I've only got a short keyboard, is there any way to assign the key  
> switching to some other
> control signal to have access to this fetyure in a "live" performance?
>
> Mige
>
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Zip Boterbloem <zip@...> wrote:
> >
> > What's your problem? Works fine. The idea: Low keys(normally so low
> > they aren't on your typical 5-octave MIDI leyboard) switch between
> > programs. Transpose your KB one or two ocatevs down(watch the  
> MIDI in
> > field in the transport bar), now you will be able to switch and play
> > the switched programs in the octaves above the switch zone.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Zip(is enjoying his Giga rare instruments, although they're just a
> > small subset of the whole rare collection)
> > Zip Boterbloem
> > Media Mechanics
> > Zwaluwstraat 54
> > 2025 VR Haarlem
> > The Netherlands
> > +31627014758
> > zip@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
> 



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On Mar 4, 2007, at 5:02 AM, Zip Boterbloem wrote:

> What's your problem? Works fine. The idea: Low keys(normally so low
> they aren't on your typical 5-octave MIDI leyboard) switch between
> programs.
I don't know what I was doing wrong.  Apparently I did have the idea  
right.  Maybe I wasn't tuning in to the subtle differences in some of  
the instruments.   But I tried it again last night, and can  
definitely tell the difference.  I know I'm late to the keyswitching  
game, but I like it.  it's a pretty user-friendly technique for  
handling a range of articulations for different patches.  Just a  
warning to others who may not be familiar with this, Rare Instruments  
uses C4 for middle C, while Logic uses C3.
>
> Zip(is enjoying his Giga rare instruments, although they're just a
> small subset of the whole rare collection)
You must be referring to the RA version, which is its own virtual  
instrument and far bigger.  We did, however, get the whole rare  
instruments set (16 instruments) that is still selling for $450+ in  
places:

http://www.eastwestsamples.com/details.php?cd_index=698

Oddly enough there is a Prosamples version as well, which is $45 and  
includes 10 of the 16 instruments we got.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/EastWest-Prosamples-Vol.-31- 
Rare-Ethnic-Instruments-CDROM?sku=955829

Apparently, until this full set got so heavily discounted, the Rag  
Dung, Thai Gong, Sarangi, Gadulka, Launeddas and Uilleann Pipes were  
worth an extra $400.

Gregory