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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Digest Number 284

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Digest Number 284

2006-01-16 by Chris Ryan



On Jan 16, 2006, at 2:28 PM, Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com wrote:

It's always possible, but it hasn't become any more likely. It's

still an OSX application, built on Apple Pro libraries (since version

7) that never existed for Windows at all and most likely never will.

And odd as it may seem, changing the OS is a lot more work than

changing the processor but using the same OS.


Actually, it's built on the Carbon libraries (there is no such thing as "Apple Pro libraries"--I believe that the "Pro" appearance is just custom graphics, which I can't see that Apple has yet made it available as an option in their developer tools). The Carbon APIs are a subset of the "Classic" Mac OS toolkit and allowed relatively easy porting to Mac OS X.

What's much more likely, is that you can eventually download some

hacked illegal version of Intel-OSX that will run on a PC.


Even if this were to happen, I doubt it would work due to driver issues.


Chris

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Digest Number 284

2006-01-17 by GAmoore@aol.com

Actually, it's built on the Carbon libraries (there is no such thing as "Apple Pro libraries"--I believe that the "Pro" appearance is just custom graphics, which I can't see that Apple has yet made it available as an option in their developer tools).


What's the 'pro application' extra installation all about then? I am guessing something do with better timing for music and vided.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Digest Number 284

2006-01-17 by Maurits van de Kamp

On Jan 16, 2006, at 11:35 PM, Chris Ryan wrote:

>
> Actually, it's built on the Carbon libraries (there is no such  
> thing as "Apple Pro libraries"--I believe that the "Pro" appearance  
> is just custom graphics, which I can't see that Apple has yet made  
> it available as an option in their developer tools). The Carbon  
> APIs are a subset of the "Classic" Mac OS toolkit and allowed  
> relatively easy porting to Mac OS X.
>

Logic is built using lots and lots of libraries, most of which don't  
have a name (well a filename obviously, but no marketing name) :) ,  
one set of which is Carbon. Nontheless, all Apple Pro applications  
use a set of common libraries (that you might know as "Pro  
Application Support") in order not to reinvent the wheel for each  
application. The looks of Pro Apps are probably the least important  
aspect of these libraries. The whole point of the overhaul in Logic 7  
was to replace Logic-specific Emagic code with generic Apple Pro-app  
code.

>> What's much more likely, is that you can eventually download some
>> hacked illegal version of Intel-OSX that will run on a PC.
>
> Even if this were to happen, I doubt it would work due to driver  
> issues.

That depends on what hardware you use (and how many hackers will  
write appropriate drivers). The Sony PlayStation wasn't supposed to  
run Linux either, but it does. Thanks to some people who have nothing  
better to do than just this sort of thing. :o)

Maurits.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Digest Number 284

2006-01-17 by Maurits van de Kamp

Chris Ryan wrote:

>>> What's much more likely, is that you can eventually download some
>>> hacked illegal version of Intel-OSX that will run on a PC.
>>
>> Even if this were to happen, I doubt it would work due to driver  
>> issues.
>

I wrote:

> That depends on what hardware you use (and how many hackers will  
> write appropriate drivers). The Sony PlayStation wasn't supposed to  
> run Linux either, but it does. Thanks to some people who have  
> nothing better to do than just this sort of thing. :o)

Let me rephrase that.. it's been done already. Intel versions of OSX  
have leaked out before MacIntels came out and there is a Wiki with  
supported PC hardware on the site below. And, as I guessed above,  
people are already working on new drivers.

http://www.osx86project.org/

Maurits.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Digest Number 284

2006-01-17 by GAmoore@aol.com

Let me rephrase that.. it's been done already. Intel versions of OSX
have leaked out before MacIntels came out and there is a Wiki with
supported PC hardware on the site below. And, as I guessed above,
people are already working on new drivers.


hacks were made but Apple found out and made changes to thwart the hacks. i can't even imagine the nightmare dealing with a non-supported hacked version of Logic would be. it would be far easier to buy a cheap PC and hook that in with a Mac on a LAN to get any software thats Windows only I think. There is also VirtualPC but my experiences with it years ago were that it was a huge processor hog.

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