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System Overload & How to get the best G4 Performance

System Overload & How to get the best G4 Performance

2005-12-29 by kevinshayes

Okay all you Logic and OSX Gurus.  I need your help.  I've finally made the LOGIC leap from 
OS9 and have hit the SYSTEM OVERLOAD wall like many of you before me.

I've been pouring over this, and many other Forums and Blogs, for about two weeks now, 
and have tried many of the fixes / solutions to no avail.  I estimate I'm now getting about 
25% of my OS9 Logic performance from Logic in OSX.

One specific case in point is this.  A four minute song sketch. No tempo changes. Four 
midi tracks, 6 Audio instruments and 2 EFX (1 Guitar Amp Pro, 1 Space Designer that's no 
even being used).

I have unsuccessfully tried to Bounce this to disc for two weeks now.  The AUDIO and DISK 
I/O Meters barely register until the GUITAR AMP PRO track brings the AUDIO METER up to 
about 1/3rd usage.  At various points in the Bounce the G4 will completely FREEZE, and I 
will have manually restart.

THINGS I HAVE TRIED, and continue to try are:
- Repairing Permissions
- Trashing Preferences
- Updating MOTU Drivers
- Changing Processor performance setting - which I cannot do BTW, because my system 
does not seem to support this option.
- Closing all Widgets
- Freeing up more Space on my Mac OSx startup disk (I now have 78.41 Gig available on a 
114.49 Gig drive)
- Run Cocktail to clean up System logs and temporary files
- FREEZING TRACKS as a temporary 'fix'.  This did nothing BTW but add more strain to the 
CPU and I still had about 1/3rd the usage with my GUITAR AMP Plugin (and it still crashed).
- Increased AUDIO BUFFER to 1024

So, (and I guess this is really two sides of the same question)...
1) How do I FIX this SYSTEM OVERLOAD problem, and 
2) How do I "optimize" my Dual 1.25 G4 in order to get the best performance possible out 
of LOGIC PRO?

OTHER QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE:
- Does the G4 have the processing power needed to run LOGIC PRO?
- I'm confident adding RAM will "help" (can't hurt), but am I really dealing with a RAM 
Problem here or, again, can these processors really handle it?

BTW - I'm not looking for an excuse to go shopping for a Quad G5 (I mean who needs an 
excuse... ;-).  But, I'm really trying to determine if at the end of the day I will spend money 
on RAM, Hard Drives, whatever..., and then still be frustrated and end up shopping.

- Are SCSI drives a problem with Tiger / Logic?  These Cheetah drives are fast (10,000 
RPM), reliable, and have been great drives to record on.  I'm trying to do this simple 
bounce to one of the Cheetahs and as I said it's just not happening.
- Does the startup volume size effect performance?
- Does the amount of free space on the start up drive effect performance?
- Firewire 400 vs 800?  My sample library is on the Firewire drive, and I'm thinking this 
does not pull a lot on the CPU as these get loaded into memory before playing?  Am I right 
about that?  It is Firewire 400.

A long letter and a lot of questions.  I thank you all in advance for any answers, guidance 
or direction you can give.  Please also let me know if there is something I HAVEN'T asked, 
looked at or should be doing.

Best, 
Kevin
---
Kevin Saunders Hayes

SYSTEM SPECS
Machine Name:	Power Mac G4
Machine Model:	PowerMac3,6
CPU Type:	PowerPC G4  (3.3)
Number Of CPUs:	2
CPU Speed:	1.25 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU):	256 KB
L3 Cache (per CPU):	2 MB
Memory:	1 GB
Bus Speed:	167 MHz
Boot ROM Version:	4.4.8f2

Logic 7.1.1 (885)
Pro Application Support 3.1
MOTU 896 - Latest drivers
2 - Seagate Cheetah 9 gig SCSI drives
1 - Oxford Firewire (Up to 400 Mb/sec) with EXS Library

Re: [Logic_Cafe] System Overload & How to get the best G4 Performance

2005-12-29 by GAmoore@aol.com

OS X simply takes more system resources than 9. So there is not any way around that fact. After having a lot of trouble (crashes) on both a G4 and G5, but now I have a fairly stable system on a dual 1.8 G5 with 4 gig of fast ram, and a 2nd internal SATA drive.

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.