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Pops Between Audio Track Sequences

Pops Between Audio Track Sequences

2005-07-02 by pete_buchwald

Hello All,

    I recorded a friend playing a classical piano piece.  We did about 8-9 takes of her doing 
the piece and I'm trying to do a little cut/paste work to get the best of her work all into 
one track.  It seems like when I paste, a little pop is created.  Any ideas?  I tried what I 
think is a cross-fade, and that didn't help.  

    I'm using Logic 6.3.1 on Mac OS 10.3.

    Thanks!

          Pete

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Pops Between Audio Track Sequences

2005-07-02 by GAmoore@aol.com

In the sample editor go to the option to find zero crossings. Its not that obvious graphically as you might expect even on a mono file because the graph you see is a "connect the dots" so I think you might have a positive bit followed by a negative one, and the line appears to cross the axis. However, in practice, I usually turn this feature off, and just just reposition the start point of the sample at what looks close to a the start of big wave, and look for a trough at the back end too. For drastic situations you can actually get the pencil and draw over spikes and such but that a last resort.

I recorded a friend playing a classical piano piece. We did about 8-9 takes of her doing
the piece and I'm trying to do a little cut/paste work to get the best of her work all into
one track. It seems like when I paste, a little pop is created. Any ideas? I tried what I
think is a cross-fade, and that didn't help.


Re: [Logic_Cafe] Pops Between Audio Track Sequences

2005-07-03 by Maurits van de Kamp

> I tried what I
> think is a cross-fade, and that didn't help.  

That doesn't sound too convincing.. ;o) A crossfade should help, so are you 
sure you did create one? Set the type to "eqp" and make sure the regions 
overlap (or there will be nothing to crossfade). Also there is a tiny bug: If 
you play the section in cyclemode while setting the crossfade, the changes 
won't have any effect until you manually play the section from the start 
again.

Maurits.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Pops Between Audio Track Sequences

2005-07-03 by Maurits van de Kamp

> In the sample editor go to the option to find zero crossings.

When connecting two sections together, finding zero crossings doesn't make a 
difference; that's only useful at a start or end. Because when you connect 
regions, the playback will jump from the previous region to the next one at 
the moment the next one starts, and it would be extremely coincidental if 
this would be a zero crossing point of the previous region. You don't 
actually have any control over this unless you move the second one around but 
usually you don't want that. :)

Maurits.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Pops Between Audio Track Sequences

2005-07-03 by GAmoore@aol.com

> In the sample editor go to the option to find zero crossings.

When connecting two sections together, finding zero crossings doesn't make a
difference; that's only useful at a start or end. Because when you connect
regions, the playback will jump from the previous region to the next one at
the moment the next one starts, and it would be extremely coincidental if
this would be a zero crossing point of the previous region. You don't
actually have any control over this unless you move the second one around but
usually you don't want that. :)


True, but if you are splicing together different parts of a performance, its best to find short pieces of silence to cut the notes. You don't want to cut into the wave form on both sides then hope it somehow fits. For example if I was going to make a cut between two bars at bar 10, it may be necessasry to actually cut 30 ticks before the bar starts - in order to get a clean cut on both pieces.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Pops Between Audio Track Sequences

2005-07-05 by Howard Lipp

there is a feature  called fade in and fade out
in the upper left corner of the arrange view for each audio track 
for fade in  set a number greater than zero (it is in milliseconds)
this works quickly and transparently and eliminates any crossover error in the clip
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In the sample editor go to the option to find zero crossings. Its not that obvious graphically as you might expect even on a mono file because the graph you see is a "connect the dots" so I think you might have a positive bit followed by a negative one, and the line appears to cross the axis. However, in practice, I usually turn this feature off, and just just reposition the start point of the sample at what looks close to a the start of big wave, and look for a trough at the back end too. For drastic situations you can actually get the pencil and draw over spikes and such but that a last resort.


  I recorded a friend playing a classical piano piece.  We did about 8-9 takes of her doing
the piece and I'm trying to do a little cut/paste work to get the best of her work all into
one track.  It seems like when I paste, a little pop is created.  Any ideas?  I tried what I
think is a cross-fade, and that didn't help. 






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