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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Logic's Score Creation

2010-07-13 by GAmoore@aol.com

If you put the different parts on different staves, then you fairly 
easily select one instrument at a time (one arrange track) then go to 
the score page and print that., then choose the next....

You can export from Logic to Sibelius or whatever too - which are 
dedicated score programs.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory Anderson <glists@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 13, 2010 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Logic's Score Creation

 
It depends on how much detail you want.  I find it very easy to play in 
parts - the notes and rhythms require little to no adjusting if you use 
the right Q value in region as well as the score.  It is also easy 
shift between a master view of all parts, and individual parts.    The 
syncopation and interpretation parameters are not intuitive, but if you 
master them, it will make for far less beam and rest editing.

The part I find annoying is adding all the non-note symbols.   Slurs, 
dynamics, etc.  are not intelligent.  They're kind of just graphics 
that you drag onto the score and position wherever you want.  That 
makes it flexible, but difficult to maintain a consistent appearance 
throughout the score.  Also, things can become unintentionally attached 
to particular staves and therefore not show up in the right parts.  
It's not a bug - just something you have to watch when placing symbols 
on the score.

So I would say that if you have a less formal environment where you can 
verbally tell the players what you want dynamically, it's super easy to 
make good scores.  If you need every slur, rest and dynamic marker in 
the right place, then you're in for a lot of work.   That said, I have 
never used anything but Logic for this purpose, so maybe it's no more 
work than it would be using the dedicated notation programs llike 
Finale or the-other-one-whose-name-I can't-remember-right-now.

Gregory

On Jul 13, 2010, at 1:38 PM, k_e_moeller wrote:

> I'm a decent orchestrator and have developed good-sounding MIDI 
orchestras in the past.  The idea here would be to use MIDI to hear and 
test the parts, and then edit and print out for the actual players.  
Since MIDI wouldn't be used live, but actual live players, the click 
track thing doesn't pertain.
>
> I was asking about the print creation aspects of Logic for live 
players, not the practicality of developing MIDI orchestration for live 
performance, which would indeed require a loud click track to all 
members of the band.
>
> karl
>
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
>>
>> Of course you can do that in theory - but you will find it 
tedious for
>> one thing. And how are you going to get the parts? There are 
rarely
>> scores written out, so you would have to pick them out by ear. 
(Music
>> majors will prefer to see scores.) Then once all that is done, 
you will
&gt;> probably find that they sound a bit stiff. Midi scores are 
rarely
>> expressive - they are best in the background to add some 
color. Also
>> you will be locked to playing along with the midi tempo so 
everyone in
>> the band will have to hear the click track.
>>
>;> That said, cover bands regularly have a synth player 
approximate
>;> orchestra arrangements. It does not have to perfect or 
complete or
&gt;> completely correct to give something of the right feel.
>>
&gt;>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: k_e_moeller <mkarl2@...>
>> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:37 pm
>> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Logic's Score Creation
&gt;>
>> Â
>> I'm in a tribute band, not a Beatles one, and it occurred that 
the
>> really big tribute gigs go to those who can hand out scores to 
an
>> orchestra.  There's a Beatles tribute called Classical Mystery 
Tour,
>> and you should see their gig list.. impressive.
>>
>> So I wonder if the score software inside Logic could be used 
to create
>> decent looking scores for all or part of a symphony, said 
compositions
>> being those of the band we, uh, tribute.  I'm Mr.MIDI, and 
could
>> probably play or step enter all needed parts.
>>
>> Has anyone attempted to hand Logic-created scores to an 
orchestra?
>>
>> I could approach a music major at our university, and might 
for track
>> #1, but I'd like to try it myself.  I have Logic 8..
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Karl
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