Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

On Dec 20, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Ben Harrison wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 09:10:50AM +0900, dennis gunn wrote:
>> FCP and DVD studio pro are updated a lot.  I am sure the Logic team 
>> are
>> working away on an update and I doubt it will be a paid one.
>
> Even though the current update situation bugs me a lot (i think we
> should have gotten something by now), I attribute the delay of 7.1 to
> merging pains with Apple and Emagic. Something that they're trying to
> get worked out internally to get things transitioned over to a new
> process.
>
> I figure one of these days in the next month we'll probably get the
> "Software Update" icon bouncing on our taskbar with a very much
> awaited update for Logic.
>

I hope you guys are right. I switched from DP about a year ago 'cause 
the bugs in DP drove me away...... and I figured it couldn't hurt to be 
on the inside track of the Apple train. But now I wonder and I've 
upgraded to DP 4.5; I'm playing both sides of the fence and waiting to 
see which way to commit, or even if it's possible to commit to one 
platform.

DP is way easier to use, Logic's a lot more powerful.

Bug squashing is important but I think workflow issues are just as 
important. Do we really need all these windows? How about a narrow view 
in the Environment? What's up with busses and auxes? It's ridiculously 
complex to add an external effect loop in Logic. In DP you select an 
Aux, set the input and the output and you're there.

Also floating windows are completely annoying. Sure it's nice once in a 
while but most of the time I'm moving them out of my way, even with two 
monitors. Maybe a key command to toggle windows from float to 
non-float. I don't know. Maybe some of these issues will work 
themselves out as I use the program more.

I'm just hoping for one sequencer that does everything I need and do it 
in the simplest way possible. Logic is a long way from that but I'd 
like it to be my go to sequencer. As it is, if I have a mostly audio 
project I'll use DP 'cause the editing is a lot easier with less key 
strokes etc.

While I'm bitching just let me say that Logic's refusal to use a Pro 
Tools/DP style selection paradigm is just nuts. In PT you see the 
audio, hold the cursor over the audio, you click, you drag. That's it. 
I know this has been discussed to death but dammit, this is so 
elementary to editing on a sequencer, that I just can't understand it.

Whew! I just went off on that  didn't I?

Anyway, with Jack, Wormhole and MidiPipe this could all be moot. I'll 
use Logic to compose and bus it over to DP to edit and mix. All in real 
time. And you can even use Logic's plug in DP too!

Cheers
Michael Telle