Homebrew PCBs

I've had it with the clothes iron. Can anybody tell me where to buy 
the GBC H200 laminator at a 'good' price?

Thanks
Fp

On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:16:48 +0200, frajopea <bigfiles@...> wrote:

> I've had it with the clothes iron. Can anybody tell me where to buy
> the GBC H200 laminator at a 'good' price?
> Thanks
> Fp
>


you could also use a fuser from a old printer or copier.
can probably be found for free.


ST

Stefan,

Where can I buy one of those online? if the price is low enough to 
justify the work involved in the modification it could be an option 
for me.

Fp

> > I've had it with the clothes iron. Can anybody tell me where to buy
> > the GBC H200 laminator at a 'good' price?
> > Thanks
> > Fp
> >
> 
> 
> you could also use a fuser from a old printer or copier.
> can probably be found for free.
> 
> 
> ST

On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:40:09 +0200, frajopea <bigfiles@...> wrote:

> Stefan,
> Where can I buy one of those online? if the price is low enough to
> justify the work involved in the modification it could be an option
> for me.
> Fp


ebay has them for sure.
You just need a scrapped printer or copier, you could get one of those at  
ebay, but i've seen separate fusers there too.
Ask local computer guys, usually one has a broken printer somewhere and is  
happy to get rid of it.


As for modification, you only need a simple temperature control circuit,  
and a motor.
I use a chicken-grill motor (the variety that rotates the spit). I had a  
used one, but i've seen them for less than 10eur new.
The slow motor has the advantage you only need one pass.

You will need to change the pressure on the fuser to allow thick boards,  
mine has springs on the front which i simply put into different holes to  
change tension.

ST

It depends where you live. they are availible on line and on eBay. the 
are also stock items at Office supply stores, like Staples, and Office 
MAX in the US.

Myc


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "frajopea" <bigfiles@t...> wrote:

> I've had it with the clothes iron. Can anybody tell me where to buy 
> the GBC H200 laminator at a 'good' price?
> 
> Thanks
> Fp

How much work is required to take the fuser out of an old laser printer
and make it a stand alone unit?  Is the power supply from the laser
printer usable, or do you need to use something different?  I have an old
Epson Action Laser 1000 that I could cannibalize if it isn't too
difficult.

Ed

> On Thu, 26 May 2005 18:16:48 +0200, frajopea <bigfiles@...> wrote:
>
>> I've had it with the clothes iron. Can anybody tell me where to buy
>> the GBC H200 laminator at a 'good' price?
>> Thanks
>> Fp
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> you could also use a fuser from a old printer or copier.
> can probably be found for free.
>
>
> ST
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I bought a H200, 9" wide for $99 at Office Depot in the U.S.A. but look 
through the archives, recently there was a mention of it selling for $40 at 
a discount place.

At 11:16 AM 5/26/2005, you wrote:
>I've had it with the clothes iron. Can anybody tell me where to buy
>the GBC H200 laminator at a 'good' price?
>
>Thanks
>Fp
>
>
>
>
>
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www.qrpradio.com

'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you 
with experience.'

On Thu, 26 May 2005 19:00:25 +0200, Ed Okerson <ed@...> wrote:

> How much work is required to take the fuser out of an old laser printer
> and make it a stand alone unit?  Is the power supply from the laser
> printer usable, or do you need to use something different?  I have an old
> Epson Action Laser 1000 that I could cannibalize if it isn't too
> difficult.
> Ed


dunno, depends on how experienced you are with such things.
I think it took about an hour to mount mine to a board, attach the motor,  
and put the temp. control together.

You don't need a power supply, the lamp works with mains voltage. You need  
however a low DC voltage to power the temperature control circuit, i use a  
small wall-wart.

If you have a printer it is probably wise to get the fuser control  
electronics, i just used a solid state relais i had.

I have written short explanations some time ago...
<http://trethan.at.tf/pub/fuser/fuser_as_laminator.html>

ST

On Thu, 26 May 2005 21:09:57 +0200, microsoftwarecontrol  
<microsoftwarecontrol@...> wrote:

> laser printer's fuser, is heated at single side.
> may be not good for double sided PCB
> buy a cheap laminator, should be much better
> choice.


I regularly make 2-sided, not a problem at all.
The lower roller is rubber which you can use strategically, for example if  
you want to make component legend over copper the flexibility presses the  
toner in between the copper.

I disagree that a laminator is better. They are neither built for the high  
thermal mass, nor temperature, nor have the right speed. Also, they are  
not free. A fuser is made for fusing toner already.
Nobody is going to convince me any time soon to buy a flimsy laminator  
only to hack it up in order to make it somewhat useable.

ST

microsoftwarecontrol wrote:
> It is terrible. At Walmart, 29 CAD, that is 24USD, one laminator
> with spring at bottom, double side heated. It is the best thing
> you need. 

Name/manufacturer of the laminator is?


-- 
uhmgawa@...        www.gnu.org

It is terrible. At Walmart, 29 CAD, that is 24USD, one laminator
with spring at bottom, double side heated. It is the best thing
you need. 

200USD to buy one from AD? Forget every other thing, just go to 
Walmart with 30 dollar, before it is out of stock. RUN!!! Bring 
one to you, I can promise you: you will be astonished, hugely.

In my exprience, laminator must be modified to increase temperature.
Now, I totally didn't touch cloth iron any more. My laminator is 
such perfect and powerful pcb tool. For my digital controled 
laminator, visit my page: 
http://ca.geocities.com/microsoftwarecontrol/tmpr/tmpr.htm
or being mirrored page
http://www.piclist.com/techref/TMPRmod.htm





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laser printer's fuser, is heated at single side.
may be not good for double sided PCB

buy a cheap laminator, should be much better 
choice.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frajopea 
  To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:40 PM
  Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: GBC H200 laminator, where to buy?


  Stefan,

  Where can I buy one of those online? if the price is low enough to 
  justify the work involved in the modification it could be an option 
  for me.

  Fp

  > > I've had it with the clothes iron. Can anybody tell me where to buy
  > > the GBC H200 laminator at a 'good' price?
  > > Thanks
  > > Fp
  > >
  > 
  > 
  > you could also use a fuser from a old printer or copier.
  > can probably be found for free.
  > 
  > 
  > ST




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