Soldering DIP sockets on the top of the board
2004-06-13 by Dave Mucha
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2004-06-13 by Dave Mucha
2004-06-13 by bsjoelund
> Hi all,DIP
>
> I know I read a site that showed a tried and true way to solder a
> socket from the bottom, but apply solder at the top.holes.
>
> this would be to allow top traces when there are no plated thru
>
> Does anybody recall that link ? or have one that would show this
> proceedure ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
2004-06-13 by John Johnson
On Sunday, June 13, 2004, at 01:42 AM, Dave Mucha wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know I read a site that showed a tried and true way to solder a DIP
> socket from the bottom, but apply solder at the top.
>
> this would be to allow top traces when there are no plated thru holes.
>
> Does anybody recall that link ? or have one that would show this
> proceedure ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
>
>
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2004-06-13 by Dave Mucha
> If you use a socket with machined pins, it will stand up enoughDo you just heat the bottom and touch the top with some solder ?
> that you can solder on the top and bottom.
>
> Regards,
> JJ
2004-06-13 by Stefan Trethan
>i think that might make the plastic look ugly. the pin to the bottom is
> Do you just heat the bottom and touch the top with some solder ?
> will that solder to the pad on the top ?
>you can buy them as single pins, or break them out of old cpu sockets....
> I have found that you can easily seperate the pins from the plastic
> in the DIP package and then you can solder them as sperate pieces.
>
> In this case however, I am making a board for a friend and he has notYou can use a ic to hold them. i have a "mockup ic" made of sheetmetal
> tried to solder a socket on the top. I am not sure that I would want
> a newbie to attempt lining up the pins of a DIP for soldering....
>
> If I place and solder the pins for him, I'll take some pictures and
> post them to the group.
>
> But, if anybody knows of a link that would show this, please let me
> know.
>
> Dave
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2004-06-13 by brudda2003
> Hi all,DIP
>
> I know I read a site that showed a tried and true way to solder a
> socket from the bottom, but apply solder at the top.holes.
>
> this would be to allow top traces when there are no plated thru
>Try this . . .
> Does anybody recall that link ? or have one that would show this
> proceedure ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave
2004-06-13 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
2004-06-13 by dg140@freenet.carleton.ca
>Another thing you can do, if space is not terribly critical is use
>"wire-wrap" sockets and a suitable (discardable) spacer to hold the socket-body maybe
>0.2" off the top of the board. Solder diagonal corners, then check if "level",
>and then solder the alternate diagonal corners. THEN solder all on the
>bottom, and then all on the top (at least those that DO connect on top). Clip off
>the excess 0.025" pins on the bottom and admire your work! BE SURE you get
>that socket's "pin 1"-end oriented properly! I did a "repair" for a CNC shop,
>once, where I goofed, and soldered a socket in backwards. But at least I caught
>this before I "powered up", and, as DIP's are symmetrical, I just put it in
>[deleted]-end-to, and all was fine, but the "notch" was on the wrong end. Had
>to "hide" that best I could.
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2004-06-13 by Stefan Trethan
> the excess 0.025" pins on the bottom and admire your work! BE SURE youhappened to a collegue with a plcc with 100 or more pins. Isn't
> get
> that socket's "pin 1"-end oriented properly! I did a "repair" for a CNC
> shop,
> once, where I goofed, and soldered a socket in backwards. But at least
> I caught
> this before I "powered up", and, as DIP's are symmetrical, I just put it
> in
> [deleted]-end-to, and all was fine, but the "notch" was on the wrong
> end. Had
> to "hide" that best I could.
>
>
2004-06-13 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
2004-06-13 by Stefan Trethan
> In a message dated 6/13/2004 5:40:47 PM Central Standard Time,don't try ;-)
> stefan_trethan@... writes:
> happened to a collegue with a plcc with 100 or more pins.
> Ist es nicht verWIRREND, als das passiert!
>
2004-06-14 by ballendo
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, John Johnson <johnatl@m...>not
> wrote:
> > If you use a socket with machined pins, it will stand up enough
> > that you can solder on the top and bottom.
> >
> > Regards,
> > JJ
>
>
> Do you just heat the bottom and touch the top with some solder ?
> will that solder to the pad on the top ?
>
> I have found that you can easily seperate the pins from the plastic
> in the DIP package and then you can solder them as sperate pieces.
>
> In this case however, I am making a board for a friend and he has
> tried to solder a socket on the top. I am not sure that I wouldwant
> a newbie to attempt lining up the pins of a DIP for soldering....
>
> If I place and solder the pins for him, I'll take some pictures and
> post them to the group.
>
> But, if anybody knows of a link that would show this, please let me
> know.
>
> Dave
2004-06-14 by Leon Heller
----- Original Message -----
From: "ballendo" <ballendo@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 4:32 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Soldering DIP sockets on the top of the board
> Hello,
>
> I used to buy sockets on a roll(or in strips) which were attached
> at .100 to the strip of metal they were formed from (at the top).
> After soldering, the strip is bent back and forth and it comes off.
> leaving the pins with exact spacing...
>
> Been awhile, but they're prob'ly still available...
I used to use those. They are made by Molex and should still be available.
Leon
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2004-06-14 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
2004-06-14 by Dave Mucha
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, JanRwl@A... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/14/2004 11:45:01 AM Central Standard Time,
> leon_heller@h... writes:
>
> I used to use those. They are made by Molex and should still be
available.
> One "kit vendor" I used to use during my infancy referred to these
as "flea
> clips". I do NOT know if this was Molex's name for them, or only
THEIR
> nick-name. Yeah, they are good for the odd application, but TINNED
BRASS? Oh, it's
> OK for prototypes, etc., but don't expect 7 out of 10 to retain
good contact
> with all-16 or 24 IC-pins, etc., for a decade!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-06-14 by Stefan Trethan
>why then not just leave the plastic carrier in place like so many do?
> I still can't find the link, but one of the ways I do it is to pull
> the pins out of a chp socket or an inline header. they come out
> pretty easy.
>
> then put them on a second socket for alignment and spacing and then
> put them thru the PC board.
>
> I can solder the bottom and then remove the upper carrier or if I did
> not puress them down, I can solder with the upper carrier in place.
>
> But, this method requires a second device and that is what I was
> trying to get away from.
>
> Dave
>
2004-06-14 by Jeremy Taylor
----- Original Message -----
From: JanRwl@...
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Soldering DIP sockets on the top of the board
In a message dated 6/14/2004 11:45:01 AM Central Standard Time,
leon_heller@... writes:
I used to use those. They are made by Molex and should still be available.
One "kit vendor" I used to use during my infancy referred to these as "flea
clips". I do NOT know if this was Molex's name for them, or only THEIR
nick-name. Yeah, they are good for the odd application, but TINNED BRASS? Oh, it's
OK for prototypes, etc., but don't expect 7 out of 10 to retain good contact
with all-16 or 24 IC-pins, etc., for a decade!
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2004-06-14 by Stefan Trethan
> I use something similar made by Mill-Max . They are simply called ICyou can get pins for that purpose, they are like square header pins but
> pins and printed circuit pins. I use them to make mini dips from SMD
> components for use on the breadboard, Not inserting an IC pin into them,
> (which they are made for) but soldering the ring on the underside of a
> PTH So instead of the point sticking in the pcb - it sticks off the
> bottom.
> Mouser page 803-804 and 830
> . Prices are not bad if purchased in qty. Beats wasted time tearing up a
> ic socket IMO.
> .
> JT
2004-06-14 by Jeremy Taylor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Trethan" <stefan_trethan@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Soldering DIP sockets on the top of the
board
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:22:00 -0400, Jeremy Taylor
> <jeremy@...> wrote:
>
> > I use something similar made by Mill-Max . They are simply called IC
> > pins and printed circuit pins. I use them to make mini dips from SMD
> > components for use on the breadboard, Not inserting an IC pin into them,
> > (which they are made for) but soldering the ring on the underside of a
> > PTH So instead of the point sticking in the pcb - it sticks off the
> > bottom.
> > Mouser page 803-804 and 830
> > . Prices are not bad if purchased in qty. Beats wasted time tearing up a
> > ic socket IMO.
> > .
> > JT
>
>
> you can get pins for that purpose, they are like square header pins but
> smaller and
> the size of IC pins. (with the narrow stub on both sides)
> they ought to be cheaper than the socket pins.
> 'course you'd need to drill holes then.
> <http://www.elcomp.at/PicGrup/Masse/Gr10/Leisten/SPL.JPG>
>
>
> But i had one other idea for Dave, there are actually socket pins wich are
> fully
> inserted into the board, (they have no narrow stub). you need bigger holes
> of course.
> this would do away with the aligning/holding guide needed as the board
> holds them firmly.
> sorry i have no url there but google will know.
> you might use standard socket pins and snip off the stub.
>
> ST
>
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2004-06-15 by Dave Mucha
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:23:58 -0000, Dave Mucha <dave_mucha@y...>pull
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I still can't find the link, but one of the ways I do it is to
> > the pins out of a chp socket or an inline header. they come outthen
> > pretty easy.
> >
> > then put them on a second socket for alignment and spacing and
> > put them thru the PC board.did
> >
> > I can solder the bottom and then remove the upper carrier or if I
> > not puress them down, I can solder with the upper carrier inplace.
> >do?
> > But, this method requires a second device and that is what I was
> > trying to get away from.
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
> why then not just leave the plastic carrier in place like so many
> With enough luck and the right method you might be able to solderon top
> without smolderingpride
> the plastic, considering how much ugly boards are nagging on your
> ;-).off"
>
> (sorry, couldn't resist, i think you remember the "cleaning flux
> discussion.toothbrush
> By the way, did any ingenious method come from it? the IPA and
> is really nasty)I think the pins that are soldered in actually look better than the
>
> ST
2004-06-15 by Stefan Trethan
> And, I use the individual DIP pins as resistor sockets when I wantHave seen that in some led voltmeters to change range.
> the ability to switch a resistor without soldering.
>
> Dave
2004-06-16 by ballendo
--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, JanRwl@A... wrote:
>One "kit vendor" I used to use during my infancy referred to these
>as "flea clips". I do NOT know if this was Molex's name for them,
>or only THEIR nick-name. Yeah, they are good for the odd
>application, but TINNED BRASS? Oh, it's OK for prototypes, etc.,
>but don't expect 7 out of 10 to retain good contact with all-16 or
>24 IC-pins, etc., for a decade!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-06-16 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
2004-06-16 by Stefan Trethan
> Thanks for reminding me! More and more frequently, anymore, I realizethank god i have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about with those
> again,
> we ALL get old, as the picoseconds waft away! Jan Rowland
>
2004-06-17 by JanRwl@AOL.COM
2004-06-17 by Stefan Trethan
> Lucky for me, there is a vendor here which carries just about ALL kindsi see now what it is all about.
> of
> sockets (and all other parts!) of every kind, so if I just-MUST have some
> particular socket, it's ony a 20 kM drive. (I try to "stock up", of
> course, as the
> drive would not be economical if done weekly just for €1,- worth!)
>