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Lead-free solder for free!

Lead-free solder for free!

2004-05-28 by leon_heller

I was at the NEPCON show in Brighton, UK, yesterday and picked up
lots of useful freebies including some lead-free solder samples and a
500 gm tub of solder paste. I'll be trying the stuff out over the
next few days.

Leon

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] component outline "silkscreen" with toner transfer and smd reflow

2004-05-28 by Leon Heller

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stefan Trethan" <stefan_trethan@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] component outline "silkscreen" with toner transfer
and smd reflow


>
> Hi,
>
> if i make a component outline print with toner transfer, and then i oven
> solder
> the other side of the board with smd comopnents, what would happen to the
> toner?
>
> Wouldn't it be harmed by the solder temperature?

It'll probably be OK, if it isn't in contact with anything. It might burn
given a high enough temperature, as it consists of a thermoplastic mixed
with carbon black. I'd try it on a scrap of PCB material using the soldering
temperature profile and see what happens.

Leon
--
Leon Heller, G1HSM
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] component outline "silkscreen" with toner transfer and smd reflow

2004-05-28 by Stefan Trethan

>
> It'll probably be OK, if it isn't in contact with anything. It might burn
> given a high enough temperature, as it consists of a thermoplastic mixed
> with carbon black. I'd try it on a scrap of PCB material using the
> soldering
> temperature profile and see what happens.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller, G1HSM
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
>

I'd better not place it on the metal gril then....

i too think if it doesn't touch anything it may be fine..


hey maybe the paper residue is charred so that it gets black?

ST

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] component outline - TT

2004-05-28 by Stefan Trethan

Another breakthrough:

You get a PERFECT component outline transfer if you clean the board with
this abrasive-type kitchen cleaner.
No clear laquer needed.

It polishes away the ugly paper residue and gives a beautiful finish.

I also discovered that surface cleaning and paper handling does not matter
very much with toner transfer of the component outline.
If you use doublesided boards the epoxy surface is nicely rough after
removing the copper
and it adheres very well.

Aligning is a bit tricky, but i first place the component outline paper on
the bottom
of the pcb, where i can easily align it with the copper image.
then i draw lines at the edges of the pcb, cut out the paper, place it on
top
and fuse.
It does not cause bad results here if you touch the freshly printed image
on the paper.
much less critical...

I'd say the looks are well worth the extra effort.

Now let's hope the baking tomorrow will not ruin the beautiful component
outline...

ST

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] component outline - TT

2004-05-28 by John Johnson

If you're doing a single sided board, or you can plate your vias
through,
you can just print the component outline on paper, then use spray
adhesive
to glue it on the top side of the board. Use a needle to punch through
the holes for component legs. You could also print on label stock and
stick it on the board, but it's usually a little thicker (and tougher to
punch the holes through) than paper.

Of course high wattage (hot) devices will set the paper on fire, etc.

Regards,
JJ

On Friday, May 28, 2004, at 12:44 PM, Stefan Trethan wrote:

> Another breakthrough:
>
> You get a PERFECT component outline transfer if you clean the board
> with
> this abrasive-type kitchen cleaner.
> No clear laquer needed.
>
> It polishes away the ugly paper residue and gives a beautiful finish.
>
> I also discovered that surface cleaning and paper handling does not
> matter
> very much with toner transfer of the component outline.
> If you use doublesided boards the epoxy surface is nicely rough after
> removing the copper
> and it adheres very well.
>
> Aligning is a bit tricky, but i first place the component outline
> paper on
> the bottom
> of the pcb, where i can easily align it with the copper image.
> then i draw lines at the edges of the pcb, cut out the paper, place it
> on
> top
> and fuse.
> It does not cause bad results here if you touch the freshly printed
> image
> on the paper.
> much less critical...
>
> I'd say the looks are well worth the extra effort.
>
> Now let's hope the baking tomorrow will not ruin the beautiful
> component
> outline...
>
> ST
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] component outline - TT

2004-05-29 by Stefan Trethan

On Fri, 28 May 2004 19:02:39 -0400, John Johnson <johnatl@...> wrote:

> If you're doing a single sided board, or you can plate your vias
> through,
> you can just print the component outline on paper, then use spray
> adhesive
> to glue it on the top side of the board. Use a needle to punch through
> the holes for component legs. You could also print on label stock and
> stick it on the board, but it's usually a little thicker (and tougher to
> punch the holes through) than paper.
>
> Of course high wattage (hot) devices will set the paper on fire, etc.
>
> Regards,
> JJ
>

Thank you, but i do not like the method ;-)
(looks too botchy if i do it)

ST

Re: component outline - TT

2004-05-29 by Steve

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, John Johnson <johnatl@m...> wrote:
> If you're doing a single sided board, or you can plate your vias
> through,
> you can just print the component outline on paper, then use spray
> adhesive
> to glue it on the top side of the board. Use a needle to punch through
> the holes for component legs. You could also print on label stock and
> stick it on the board, but it's usually a little thicker (and tougher to
> punch the holes through) than paper.


Or use Tshirt transfers. It's clear, and easy to poke holes through.
Looks a lot better than a chunk of paper.

Steve

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: component outline - TT

2004-05-29 by Stefan Trethan

> Or use Tshirt transfers. It's clear, and easy to poke holes through.
> Looks a lot better than a chunk of paper.
>
> Steve

The Toner transfer works beautifully, and there is no punching of holes.
you also could use it on a smd board and on the solder side.


Transfer like on copper, (cleaning less critical), then soak and peel,
and then rub with abrasive kitchen cleaner.

It polishes away the paper residue and leaves you with a shiny black
finish.

Looks like black silkscreen printing.

Oven soldering does not pose a problem, do suspend the board on
transfer-free edges.

Maybe i post a scan of it some day.

ST