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What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-04 by Rob

What is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg


Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise?
counter clockwise?
Which wire is neutral?
Which wire is is hot?

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-04 by K5ESS

Check this out

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4

 

Mike N.
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What is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg


Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise? 
counter clockwise?
Which wire is neutral?
Which wire is is hot?

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-04 by Harvey Altstadter

Rob,

I think this is what you are looking for: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4

Harvey
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On 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
>
> What is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
> There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.
>
> http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg
>
>
> Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise?
> counter clockwise?
> Which wire is neutral?
> Which wire is is hot?
>
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-04 by Rob

Thanks Mike and Harvey.
Thats the one.

On 01/04/2017 11:25 AM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@... 
[Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
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> Rob,
>
> I think this is what you are looking for: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4
>
> Harvey
> On 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
>>
>> What is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
>> There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.
>>
>> http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg
>>
>>
>> Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise?
>> counter clockwise?
>> Which wire is neutral?
>> Which wire is is hot?
>>
>
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-04 by Rob

I revised the picture to show the connections.
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On 01/04/2017 10:14 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
>
> What is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
> There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.
>
> http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg
>
>
> Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise?
> counter clockwise?
> Which wire is neutral?
> Which wire is is hot?
>
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-04 by Jim Pruitt

Looks like the direction you want it to travel determines where the AC line connects.

Good luck.
Jim

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On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Thanks Mike and Harvey.
Thats the one.

On 01/04/2017 11:25 AM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:

Rob,

I think this is what you are looking for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4

Harvey
On 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:

What is the proper way to wire an AC 3 wire synchronous motor?
There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg


Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise?
counter clockwise?
Which wire is neutral?
Which wire is is hot?




RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-04 by keith printy

Since there appears to be a capacitor present the motor in the picture is wired correctly. If there were no capacitor it would not run.
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Thanks Mike and Harvey.
Thats the one.

On 01/04/2017 11:25 AM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:

  

Rob,

I think this is what you are looking for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4

Harvey

On 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:

  

What is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg


Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise? 
counter clockwise?
Which wire is neutral?
Which wire is is hot?

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-05 by Rob

What is the purpose of the 0.15uF capacitor?
I find the next size smaller shows it also in this picture:
http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/sync5.jpg


On 01/04/2017 04:35 PM, 'keith printy' keethpr@... 
[Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
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> Since there appears to be a capacitor present the motor in the picture 
> is wired correctly. If there were no capacitor it would not run.
>
> *From:*Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:34 PM
> *To:* Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire 
> synchronous motor
>
> Thanks Mike and Harvey.
> Thats the one.
>
> On 01/04/2017 11:25 AM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@... 
> <mailto:hrconsult@...> [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
>
>     Rob,
>
>     I think this is what you are looking for:
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4
>
>     Harvey
>
>     On 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@...
>     <mailto:roomberg@...> [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
>
>         Wh at is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
>         There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.
>
>         http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg
>
>
>         Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise?
>         counter clockwise?
>         Which wire is neutral?
>         Which wire is is hot?
>
>

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-05 by K5ESS

The motor is built with a number of magnetic poles arranged around the stationary part of the motor (the stator)  alternate poles are wound with the two different windings.  By connecting a capacitor in series with one of the windings (which results in a phase shift across that winding) you get a rotating magnetic field within the motor.  The permanent magnet rotor aligns itself with that field and rotates to keep in alignment.  The direction of rotation of the rotating magnetic field depends on which of the two windings the capacitor is connected in series with.

Mike N
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What is the purpose of the 0.15uF capacitor?
I find the next size smaller shows it also in this picture:
http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/sync5.jpg



On 01/04/2017 04:35 PM, 'keith printy' keethpr@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:

  

Since there appears to be a capacitor present the motor in the picture is wired correctly. If there were no capacitor it would not run.

 

 

From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:34 PM
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

 

  

Thanks Mike and Harvey.
Thats the one.

On 01/04/2017 11:25 AM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:

  

Rob,

I think this is what you are looking for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4

Harvey

On 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:

  

Wh at is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg


Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise? 
counter clockwise?
Which wire is neutral?
Which wire is is hot?

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-05 by KeepIt SimpleStupid

In general with a synchronous motor, there will be two windings with a common which you can identify with an ohmmeter.  The suggested cap causes a phase shift.  The AC rated capacitor goes between the free ends of the windings.
Power is then applied to the common and to one end of the capacitor.   The end you choose determines the direction the motor rotates.
Without a capacitor, the motor generally won't run or appear "spastic".  I've never experimented with the capacitor size.


 

    On Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:16 AM, "'K5ESS' k5ess.nothdurft@... [Homebrew_PCBs]" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

     The motor is built with a number of magnetic poles arranged around the stationary part of the motor (the stator)  alternate poles are wound with the two different windings.  By connecting a capacitor in series with one of the windings (which results in a phase shift across that winding) you get a rotating magnetic field within the motor.  The permanent magnet rotor aligns itself with that field and rotates to keep in alignment.  The direction of rotation of the rotating magnetic field depends on which of the two windings the capacitor is connected in series with.Mike N  From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] 
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I find the next size smaller shows it also in this picture:
http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/sync5.jpg

On 01/04/2017 04:35 PM, 'keith printy' keethpr@ameritech.net [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
  Since there appears to be a capacitor present the motor in the picture is wired correctly. If there were no capacitor it would not run.  From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] 
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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor   Thanks Mike and Harvey.
Thats the one.On 01/04/2017 11:25 AM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@cox.net [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
  Rob,I think this is what you are looking for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4HarveyOn 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
  Wh at is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.

http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg


Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise? 
counter clockwise?
Which wire is neutral?
Which wire is is hot?

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor

2017-01-06 by Donald H Locker

The capacitor provides a shift in phase of the excitation to one set of the motor's windings relative to the other windings. This provides a rotating magnetic field which the rotor "follows."

Donald.

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> To: "Homebrew PCBs" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 7:40:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire synchronous motor
> 
> What is the purpose of the 0.15uF capacitor?
> I find the next size smaller shows it also in this picture:
> http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/sync5.jpg
> 
> 
> On 01/04/2017 04:35 PM, 'keith printy' keethpr@...
> [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
> >
> > Since there appears to be a capacitor present the motor in the picture
> > is wired correctly. If there were no capacitor it would not run.
> >
> > *From:*Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:34 PM
> > *To:* Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What is the proper way to wire a 3 wire
> > synchronous motor
> >
> > Thanks Mike and Harvey.
> > Thats the one.
> >
> > On 01/04/2017 11:25 AM, Harvey Altstadter hrconsult@...
> > <mailto:hrconsult@...> [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
> >
> >     Rob,
> >
> >     I think this is what you are looking for:
> >     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11NeRSxPD4
> >
> >     Harvey
> >
> >     On 1/4/2017 8:14 AM, Rob roomberg@...
> >     <mailto:roomberg@...> [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote:
> >
> >         Wh at is the proper way to wire an AC  3 wire synchronous motor?
> >         There is a wire diagram on this picture but it does not help me.
> >
> >         http://www.learnmorsecode.com/laminator/syncmotor.jpg
> >
> >
> >         Do all 3 need to be attached to make it go clock wise?
> >         counter clockwise?
> >         Which wire is neutral?
> >         Which wire is is hot?
> >
> > 
> 
>

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