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Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-29 by duwaynes@...

I had been very happy with the results I had using the cold toner transfer method, and wanted to see if I how it would work doing a double sided board.  I did not have a way of doing a video recording of the process but took a few pictures that I posed on my blog.  The results were much better than I had ever been able to get using the hot method with a laminator.  Hole registration was very good from side to side, which was always the problem that I had using the hot method.

DuWayne's Place: Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 



DuWayne


RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-30 by Nuno Tavares

NICE!

 

Have tried the single side cold method myself with very good results. Looking at your double sided results, I guess the laminator has had it… J

 

Nuno T.

 

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To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 



I had been very happy with the results I had using the cold toner transfer method, and wanted to see if I how it would work doing a double sided board.  I did not have a way of doing a video recording of the process but took a few pictures that I posed on my blog.  The results were much better than I had ever been able to get using the hot method with a laminator.  Hole registration was very good from side to side, which was always the problem that I had using the hot method.

DuWayne's Place: Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 

 

 

DuWayne's Place: Double sided cold toner transfer ex...

Double sided cold toner transfer experiment I was very happy with the boards I made using the cold toner transfer method, and wanted to see how ...

 

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DuWayne

 


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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-30 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg

DuWayne

Very nice "How to".
Just a point, on the ground plane side, if there is no track or connection, why bother adding a pad, then alignment will be even less crytical.

Malcolm

I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin
The writing is on the wall.
Ha-ktovet al ha-kir

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 1/29/16, duwaynes@... [Homebrew_PCBs] <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 29, 2016, 7:30 PM


 









I had been very happy with the results I had using
the cold toner transfer method, and wanted to see if I how
it would work doing a double sided board.  I did not have a
way of doing a video recording of the process but took a few
pictures that I posed on my blog.  The results were much
better than I had ever been able to get using the hot method
with a laminator.  Hole registration was very good from
side to side, which was always the problem that I had using
the hot method.

DuWayne's
Place: Double sided cold toner transfer
experiment



DuWayne's
Place: Double sided cold toner transfer ex...
Double
sided cold toner transfer experiment I was very happy with
the boards I made using the cold toner transfer method, and
wanted to see how ...



View on kv4qb.blogspot.com


Preview by Yahoo
 

DuWayne












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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-30 by duwaynes@...

This was more of an experiment with doing a double sided board using cold toner transfer.  The board was just one that I had ready to etch, and I wanted to check what kind of registration I could get with the cold toner method.  When I build the board I will probably use a drill bit and remove the unneeded pads by hand .
DWayne

RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-31 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg

What about using the laminator on cold to bond the toner to the board instead of burnishing ?

Malcolm

I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin
The writing is on the wall.
Ha-ktovet al ha-kir

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 1/30/16, 'Nuno Tavares' nuno_t@... [Homebrew_PCBs] <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016, 11:34 AM


 

















NICE!



 

Have
tried the single
side cold method myself with very good results. Looking at
your double sided
results, I guess the laminator has had it…
J



 

Nuno
T.


 









From:
Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
[mailto: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com ]


Sent:
sexta-feira, 29 de Janeiro
de 2016 19:31

To:
Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com

Subject:
[Homebrew_PCBs] Double
sided cold toner transfer experiment




 





I had been very happy with the results I
had using the cold toner transfer method, and wanted to see
if I how it would
work doing a double sided board.  I did not have a way of
doing a video
recording of the process but took a few pictures that I
posed on my blog. 
The results were much better than I had ever been able to
get using the hot
method with a laminator.  Hole registration was very good
from side to
side, which was always the problem that I had using the hot
method.



DuWayne's
Place: Double sided cold toner transfer
experiment




 

 



 



DuWayne's
Place: Double sided cold toner transfer
ex...


Double
sided cold toner transfer experiment I was
very happy with the boards I made using the cold toner
transfer method, and
wanted to see how ...





 


View
on kv4qb.blogspot.com



Preview
by Yahoo



 




 





DuWayne

 
















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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-31 by rolohar@...

Malcom Parker:

Good Idea:

I use a rubber roller.......looks something like a paint roller, only smaller and with a rubber roller instead of
fuzzy felt.

If I had a laminator, I would use it with no heat, just to apply even pressure across the surface.

One pass should be sufficient.

Regards,

Roland F. Harriston, P.D.
***************************

From: "Malcolm Parker-Lisberg mparkerlisberg@... [Homebrew_PCBs]" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Homebrew PCBs" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:04:45 PM
Subject: RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 

What about using the laminator on cold to bond the toner to the board instead of burnishing ?

Malcolm

I don't suffer from insanity I enjoy it!
Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin
The writing is on the wall.
Ha-ktovet al ha-kir

--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 1/30/16, 'Nuno Tavares' nuno_t@... [Homebrew_PCBs] <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016, 11:34 AM


 

















NICE!



 

Have
tried the single
side cold method myself with very good results. Looking at
your double sided
results, I guess the laminator has had it…
J



 

Nuno
T.


 









From:
Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
[mailto: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com ]


Sent:
sexta-feira, 29 de Janeiro
de 2016 19:31

To:
Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com

Subject:
[Homebrew_PCBs] Double
sided cold toner transfer experiment




 





I had been very happy with the results I
had using the cold toner transfer method, and wanted to see
if I how it would
work doing a double sided board.  I did not have a way of
doing a video
recording of the process but took a few pictures that I
posed on my blog. 
The results were much better than I had ever been able to
get using the hot
method with a laminator.  Hole registration was very good
from side to
side, which was always the problem that I had using the hot
method.



DuWayne's
Place: Double sided cold toner transfer
experiment




 

 



 



DuWayne's
Place: Double sided cold toner transfer
ex...


Double
sided cold toner transfer experiment I was
very happy with the boards I made using the cold toner
transfer method, and
wanted to see how ...





 


View
on kv4qb.blogspot.com



Preview
by Yahoo



 




 





DuWayne

 
















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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-31 by casy_ch@tbwil.ch

Hi Roland

A good idea with the cold laminator, I never thought of it. Thank you.

By the way the roller you are using is a roller to apply ink on linoleum carvings. Probably available in a craft store at your end.

Rgds

Jean-Claude


Am 31.01.2016 um 02:18 schrieb rolohar@... [Homebrew_PCBs]:
 
Malcom Parker:

Good Idea:

I use a rubber roller.......looks something like a paint roller, only smaller and with a rubber roller instead of
fuzzy felt.

If I had a laminator, I would use it with no heat, just to apply even pressure across the surface.

One pass should be sufficient.

Regards,

Roland F. Harriston, P.D.
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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-31 by Andrew Volk

Look for a “brayer.”  It is used for inking, for rolling out laminate to be glued down to counter tops and much more.  The rubber can be of varying hardness, depending on application.  Sounds like a hard rubber would work best.

 

From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 11:25 PM
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 

 

Hi Roland

A good idea with the cold laminator, I never thought of it. Thank you.

By the way the roller you are using is a roller to apply ink on linoleum carvings. Probably available in a craft store at your end.

Rgds

Jean-Claude

Am 31.01.2016 um 02:18 schrieb rolohar@... [Homebrew_PCBs]:

 

Malcom Parker:

 

Good Idea:

 

I use a rubber roller.......looks something like a paint roller, only smaller and with a rubber roller instead of

fuzzy felt.

 

If I had a laminator, I would use it with no heat, just to apply even pressure across the surface.

 

One pass should be sufficient.

 

Regards,

 

Roland F. Harriston, P.D.

***************************

 

 

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-31 by rolohar@...

Andrew and All:

Just make sure that the solvent (acetone, xylene, etc) that you are using in your
cold transfer process is not something that will attack any plastic parts of your
laminator.  Isol alchol most likely will be inert.............but make sure.

Regards,

Roland F. Harriston, P.D.

From: "'Andrew Volk' amvweb@... [Homebrew_PCBs]" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Homebrew PCBs" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:19:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 


Look for a “brayer.”  It is used for inking, for rolling out laminate to be glued down to counter tops and much more.  The rubber can be of varying hardness, depending on application.  Sounds like a hard rubber would work best.

 

From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 11:25 PM
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 

 

Hi Roland


A good idea with the cold laminator, I never thought of it. Thank you.


By the way the roller you are using is a roller to apply ink on linoleum carvings. Probably available in a craft store at your end.


Rgds


Jean-Claude


Am 31.01.2016 um 02:18 schrieb rolohar@... [Homebrew_PCBs]:

 

Malcom Parker:

 

Good Idea:

 

I use a rubber roller.......looks something like a paint roller, only smaller and with a rubber roller instead of

fuzzy felt.

 

If I had a laminator, I would use it with no heat, just to apply even pressure across the surface.

 

One pass should be sufficient.

 

Regards,

 

Roland F. Harriston, P.D.

***************************

 

 




Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

2016-01-31 by rolohar@...

Andrew Volk:

"Brayer"

Thanks for the correct name.

I made mine with a piece of neoprene tubing and a piece of bent round aluminum.
Knowing the real name of the device, I was able to locate quite a few on Ebay
made in China for not very much money, and with free shipping.

Thanks,

Roland F. Harriston, P.D.
****************************
From: "'Andrew Volk' amvweb@... [Homebrew_PCBs]" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Homebrew PCBs" <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 1:19:19 AM
Subject: RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 


Look for a “brayer.”  It is used for inking, for rolling out laminate to be glued down to counter tops and much more.  The rubber can be of varying hardness, depending on application.  Sounds like a hard rubber would work best.

 

From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 11:25 PM
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Double sided cold toner transfer experiment

 

 

Hi Roland


A good idea with the cold laminator, I never thought of it. Thank you.


By the way the roller you are using is a roller to apply ink on linoleum carvings. Probably available in a craft store at your end.


Rgds


Jean-Claude


Am 31.01.2016 um 02:18 schrieb rolohar@... [Homebrew_PCBs]:

 

Malcom Parker:

 

Good Idea:

 

I use a rubber roller.......looks something like a paint roller, only smaller and with a rubber roller instead of

fuzzy felt.

 

If I had a laminator, I would use it with no heat, just to apply even pressure across the surface.

 

One pass should be sufficient.

 

Regards,

 

Roland F. Harriston, P.D.

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