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From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 2:56:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] help .. last layer stuck on PCB


Using acetone or alcohol could remove your toner. Have you thought about
just etching it with the gloss layer still on there? It may come off during
etch. The bond between the toner and the copper should be much stronger
than the gloss to the copper. You don't have much to loose. How long did
you soak it for?

Erik

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:

> I used some glossy HP paper ..
> Mad copies at the post office
> and did the iron on thing ..
>
> Traces look ok ..
> But that last layer where the gloss is..
> Cant get it to come off ..
>
> Just using water .. and trying to scrub / peel it..
>
> can I use like acetone, or alcohol ??
>
> Randy - N2CUA
>
> PS I do have other paper coming ..
> the press n peel and going to try that dissolving paper..
>
>
>

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From: Andrew <a_wake@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 3:28:29 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB


With the glossy paper I am currently using (don't recall the brand/type, but it
may well be HP), I have found that soaking it off doesn't work. However, if I
peel it carefully while still hot, it comes right off, leaving the toner behind.

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Randy S." <rj3819@...> wrote:
>
> been soaking for a good hour now ..
> even tried warm water and soap ..
> true .. I dont have much to lose by trying ..
>
> Randy
>
>
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> From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 2:56:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] help .. last layer stuck on PCB
>
>
> Using acetone or alcohol could remove your toner. Have you thought about
> just etching it with the gloss layer still on there? It may come off during
> etch. The bond between the toner and the copper should be much stronger
> than the gloss to the copper. You don't have much to loose. How long did
> you soak it for?
>
> Erik
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:
>
> > I used some glossy HP paper ..
> > Mad copies at the post office
> > and did the iron on thing ..
> >
> > Traces look ok ..
> > But that last layer where the gloss is..
> > Cant get it to come off ..
> >
> > Just using water .. and trying to scrub / peel it..
> >
> > can I use like acetone, or alcohol ??
> >
> > Randy - N2CUA
> >
> > PS I do have other paper coming ..
> > the press n peel and going to try that dissolving paper..
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 3:46:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB


Well everyone has a different setup so there is a fair amount of trial and
error that goes on. Make sure to post pictures of your process.

Were you using Inkjet glossy photopaper or laser glossy photopaper? it
makes a huge difference.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:

> ok .. well .. tried heating it back up a little ..
> peeled a trace off ..
> all FUBAR now .. lol
> I guess I'll just wait for the other paper to show up.
> At least I know the toner in that copier at the post office
> works ok .. lol
> Sure is a lot of trial and error to this ..
>
>

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From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 3:53:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB


I have HP laser glossy presentation paper. That seems to be the
recommendation more than photo paper. Product code Q2546A.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:

> aaaaaaahhh Laser glossy ? LOL
> Didnt know there was such a thing .. lol
> I used inkjet glossy ..
> Do I dare guess I should have used laser glossy?
> *cringe *
>

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From: Paul Mateer <paul.aa9gg@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 4:56:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB

I use front and back pages of magazines like Circuit Cellar or Elektor with
great success. Not so much for the inside pages, they seem to be to thin.

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:

>
>
> ok .. thanks ..
> Will prolly wait for the other paper now ..
> But that is still good info .. I didnt realize ..
>
> Randy - N2CUA
>
> ________________________________
> From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 3:53:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB
>
>
> I have HP laser glossy presentation paper. That seems to be the
> recommendation more than photo paper. Product code Q2546A.
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:
>
> > aaaaaaahhh Laser glossy ? LOL
> > Didnt know there was such a thing .. lol
> > I used inkjet glossy ..
> > Do I dare guess I should have used laser glossy?
> > *cringe *
> >
>
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--
Paul Mateer, AA9GG
Elan Engineering Corp.
www.elanengr.com
NAQCC 3123, SKCC 4628, FPQRP 2003


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From: Piers Goodhew <piers@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 6:40:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB


I had some inkjet photo paper which I quite liked (but had to give up on
because it was thick and curly). You ended up with a thin layer of plastic
still stuck to the toner (and a few bridges here and there which you had to
be vigilant to toothbrush away), but that had the advantage of alleviating
the "pitting" you see in large solid areas (and I think the edges were
sharper as there were no stray fibres hanging over the edge).

Just making the point that not all inkjet paper is bad. I have seen some
other paper that was pure plastic - ain't never going to soak off..

PG

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:

>
>
> aaaaaaahhh Laser glossy ? LOL
> Didnt know there was such a thing .. lol
> I used inkjet glossy ..
> Do I dare guess I should have used laser glossy?
> *cringe *
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 3:46:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB
>
>
> Well everyone has a different setup so there is a fair amount of trial and
> error that goes on. Make sure to post pictures of your process.
>
> Were you using Inkjet glossy photopaper or laser glossy photopaper? it
> makes a huge difference.
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:
>
> > ok .. well .. tried heating it back up a little ..
> > peeled a trace off ..
> > all FUBAR now .. lol
> > I guess I'll just wait for the other paper to show up.
> > At least I know the toner in that copier at the post office
> > works ok .. lol
> > Sure is a lot of trial and error to this ..
> >
> >
>
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From: Randy S. <rj3819@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 7:31:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB


You know whats funny .. I tried it from a piece of 20# bright white paper from
walmart
and its almost usable LOL .. I could actually touch it up and use it ..
But tomorrow I will try the glossy magazine paper and see how that goes ..
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this is fun , though at times frustrating LOL

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From: Piers Goodhew <piers@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 6:40:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB

I had some inkjet photo paper which I quite liked (but had to give up on
because it was thick and curly). You ended up with a thin layer of plastic
still stuck to the toner (and a few bridges here and there which you had to
be vigilant to toothbrush away), but that had the advantage of alleviating
the "pitting" you see in large solid areas (and I think the edges were
sharper as there were no stray fibres hanging over the edge).

Just making the point that not all inkjet paper is bad. I have seen some
other paper that was pure plastic - ain't never going to soak off..

PG

On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:

>
>
> aaaaaaahhh Laser glossy ? LOL
> Didnt know there was such a thing .. lol
> I used inkjet glossy ..
> Do I dare guess I should have used laser glossy?
> *cringe *
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Erik Knise <elknise@...>
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, February 14, 2011 3:46:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: help .. last layer stuck on PCB
>
>
> Well everyone has a different setup so there is a fair amount of trial and
> error that goes on. Make sure to post pictures of your process.
>
> Were you using Inkjet glossy photopaper or laser glossy photopaper? it
> makes a huge difference.
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Randy S. <rj3819@...> wrote:
>
> > ok .. well .. tried heating it back up a little ..
> > peeled a trace off ..
> > all FUBAR now .. lol
> > I guess I'll just wait for the other paper to show up.
> > At least I know the toner in that copier at the post office
> > works ok .. lol
> > Sure is a lot of trial and error to this ..
> >
> >
>
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