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Hello Group, I spent the last week visiting my 17 year old son in the hospital... Seems he has Crohn's disease.. which required the removal of about a foot of his intestine.. with any luck he will be home in a couple of days.. 

Unfortunatley modern medicine says that there is no cure.. might be able to control it with a little white pill.. or might require more surguries in the future.. Neiher answer satisfies me.. 

I recently came across the work of Dr Bob Beck.. if your not familiar I stronly suggest you take the time to google him and at least watch one of his seminars from the late 90's... it is a real eye opener.. as he states that most diseases can be cured..(oppps.. that will get you in trouble with the FDA).. lets say spontanious remishion.. by introducing a micro-amp alternating current into your blood supply.. 

US Patent 5188738 verifys this..  but the information has been supressed.. Go Figure.. 

Anyway Dr Beck gave the informaiton away for free... including a simple circuit to build... but it requires a 27 - 30 vdc supply... 

I recently found a schematic for a Beck Device that has a voltage multiplier circuit so a single 9vdc batter can be used... 

I'm asking if anyone with the resources could look at the following link, and then post a PCB circuit for it.. in the file I posted today.. (Dr Bob Beck Blood Cleaner)... here is the link...  

http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1443104

If you have an interest in electronics, I think you would find Dr Beck's lifes work worth studying...  he was a pioneer in the field of electro medicine... including how to protect yourself from electro magnetic mind control.. and addiction cures using simple electronic circuits... 

If your looking for a new challenge, and your heart is in the right place please do what you can to take his schematics, make them into PCB files and share them with the world..

Thank in advance..
RobbRyder... 

P.S.. if anyone knows of a circuit to measure Orgone.. please post it..

On 18/01/2010 03:01, robbbryder wrote:
> Hello Group, I spent the last week visiting my 17 year old son in the hospital... Seems he has Crohn's disease.. which required the removal of about a foot of his intestine.. with any luck he will be home in a couple of days..
>
> Unfortunatley modern medicine says that there is no cure.. might be able to control it with a little white pill.. or might require more surguries in the future.. Neiher answer satisfies me..
>
> I recently came across the work of Dr Bob Beck.. if your not familiar I stronly suggest you take the time to google him and at least watch one of his seminars from the late 90's... it is a real eye opener.. as he states that most diseases can be cured..(oppps.. that will get you in trouble with the FDA).. lets say spontanious remishion.. by introducing a micro-amp alternating current into your blood supply..
>
> US Patent 5188738 verifys this..  but the information has been supressed.. Go Figure..
>
> Anyway Dr Beck gave the informaiton away for free... including a simple circuit to build... but it requires a 27 - 30 vdc supply...
>
> I recently found a schematic for a Beck Device that has a voltage multiplier circuit so a single 9vdc batter can be used...
>
> I'm asking if anyone with the resources could look at the following link, and then post a PCB circuit for it.. in the file I posted today.. (Dr Bob Beck Blood Cleaner)... here is the link...
>
> http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1443104
>
> If you have an interest in electronics, I think you would find Dr Beck's lifes work worth studying...  he was a pioneer in the field of electro medicine... including how to protect yourself from electro magnetic mind control.. and addiction cures using simple electronic circuits...
>
> If your looking for a new challenge, and your heart is in the right place please do what you can to take his schematics, make them into PCB files and share them with the world..
>
> Thank in advance..
> RobbRyder...
>
> P.S.. if anyone knows of a circuit to measure Orgone.. please post it..

Weird!!!!

I've had Crohn's disease for 45 years and have had five operations for 
it and my brother died from it three years ago. I fail to see how a 
gadget like that can do anything for sufferers.

Leon

I'm very sorry about your son, I hope he does get better soon.
It can be very frustrating when there is no really effective cure that
medicine can provide, however you should also consider that most of
the conventional doctors really are doing their best to help people.
Sure there are a few irresponsible or lazy ones, but the majority is
not out to suppress information, if they had any indication this would
work they'd use it.

It is not my place to tell you what to believe, and it is well
understandable why you want to explore every avenue, but don't rely on
this too much. All I am saying is whatever you try, don't go against
the recommendations of your other doctors. If you want to try it in
addition and your doctors see no danger of negative effects, that's
fine, but the best chance for your son to get healthy again is to
stick with what his doctors recommend. Sometimes proponents of
alternative medicine try to persuade their clients that the classical
treatments are not working and should be stopped. This is the worst
that can happen to any patient.

ST

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:01 AM, robbbryder <robbryder@...> wrote:
> Hello Group, I spent the last week visiting my 17 year old son in the hospital... Seems he has Crohn's disease.. which required the removal of about a foot of his intestine.. with any luck he will be home in a couple of days..
>
> Unfortunatley modern medicine says that there is no cure.. might be able to control it with a little white pill.. or might require more surguries in the future.. Neiher answer satisfies me..
>
> I recently came across the work of Dr Bob Beck.. if your not familiar I stronly suggest you take the time to google him and at least watch one of his seminars from the late 90's... it is a real eye opener.. as he states that most diseases can be cured..(oppps.. that will get you in trouble with the FDA).. lets say spontanious remishion.. by introducing a micro-amp alternating current into your blood supply..
>
> US Patent 5188738 verifys this..  but the information has been supressed.. Go Figure..
>
> Anyway Dr Beck gave the informaiton away for free... including a simple circuit to build... but it requires a 27 - 30 vdc supply...
>
> I recently found a schematic for a Beck Device that has a voltage multiplier circuit so a single 9vdc batter can be used...
>
> I'm asking if anyone with the resources could look at the following link, and then post a PCB circuit for it.. in the file I posted today.. (Dr Bob Beck Blood Cleaner)... here is the link...
>
> http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1443104
>
> If you have an interest in electronics, I think you would find Dr Beck's lifes work worth studying...  he was a pioneer in the field of electro medicine... including how to protect yourself from electro magnetic mind control.. and addiction cures using simple electronic circuits...
>
> If your looking for a new challenge, and your heart is in the right place please do what you can to take his schematics, make them into PCB files and share them with the world..
>
> Thank in advance..
> RobbRyder...
>
> P.S.. if anyone knows of a circuit to measure Orgone.. please post it..
>
>
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Leon, is it wierd, or maybe just suppressed info.. ? The following is from US Patent 5188738. Dr Beck used this as the basis for the circuit I'm asking be turned into a PCB file.. 

Excerpt from US Patent 5188738
 
 with alternating current electric field forces of appropriate electric field strength to attenuate such contaminants to the 
extent that bacteria, virus, fungus, and/or parasites contained in the
blood or other body fluids are rendered ineffective to infect and/or affect normally healthy human cells. The treatment, however, does not render the blood or other body fluids biologically unfit for use in humans or other mammals after the treatment. 

This is just one phase of what he called the 4 step protocal for healing your own body..  

Crohn's is just one of many diseases that have been treated using this process... or so they say.. but you will never get this info from a doctor... because a patient cured, is a customer lost.. 


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Leon Heller <leon355@...> wrote:

>
> On 18/01/2010 03:01, robbbryder wrote:
> > Hello Group, I spent the last week visiting my 17 year old son in the hospital... Seems he has Crohn's disease.. which required the removal of about a foot of his intestine.. with any luck he will be home in a couple of days..
> >
> > Unfortunatley modern medicine says that there is no cure.. might be able to control it with a little white pill.. or might require more surguries in the future.. Neiher answer satisfies me..
> >
> > I recently came across the work of Dr Bob Beck.. if your not familiar I stronly suggest you take the time to google him and at least watch one of his seminars from the late 90's... it is a real eye opener.. as he states that most diseases can be cured..(oppps.. that will get you in trouble with the FDA).. lets say spontanious remishion.. by introducing a micro-amp alternating current into your blood supply..
> >
> > US Patent 5188738 verifys this..  but the information has been supressed.. Go Figure..
> >
> > Anyway Dr Beck gave the informaiton away for free... including a simple circuit to build... but it requires a 27 - 30 vdc supply...
> >
> > I recently found a schematic for a Beck Device that has a voltage multiplier circuit so a single 9vdc batter can be used...
> >
> > I'm asking if anyone with the resources could look at the following link, and then post a PCB circuit for it.. in the file I posted today.. (Dr Bob Beck Blood Cleaner)... here is the link...
> >
> > http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1443104
> >
> > If you have an interest in electronics, I think you would find Dr Beck's lifes work worth studying...  he was a pioneer in the field of electro medicine... including how to protect yourself from electro magnetic mind control.. and addiction cures using simple electronic circuits...
> >
> > If your looking for a new challenge, and your heart is in the right place please do what you can to take his schematics, make them into PCB files and share them with the world..
> >
> > Thank in advance..
> > RobbRyder...
> >
> > P.S.. if anyone knows of a circuit to measure Orgone.. please post it..
> 
> Weird!!!!
> 
> I've had Crohn's disease for 45 years and have had five operations for 
> it and my brother died from it three years ago. I fail to see how a 
> gadget like that can do anything for sufferers.
> 
> Leon
>

Stefan, well said and I agree with every word.

A reminder to everyone - discussions of making PCBs only.

If you wish to discuss the design of the electronics, please move the discussion to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Electronics_101

If you wish to discuss the merits of the device, a medical group or my Mad_Scientist group is the place to do so:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mad_scientist

Don't be put off by the name of the group.

Steve Greenfield
listowner of this and those two groups

Regardless of whether or not this works, what you are asking of this group is highly dangerous -- making a PCB to be used in an experimental medical procedure (yep, gotta be experimental if it is not FDA approved) is going to leave the maker open to a really nasty lawsuit. Even worse that you are asking members of a group that does HOMEBREW PCB's -- one look at that title and the judge will throw us in the clink for irresponsible endangerment, or whatever legal term they come up with.

The message has already come from the moderator that the medical benefits (or not) should not be discussed here; the only reason I am responding is a word of warning that any hobby PCB maker undertaking anything like this is just begging for a liability lawsuit.

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "robbbryder" <robbryder@...> wrote:

>
> Leon, is it wierd, or maybe just suppressed info.. ? The following is from US Patent 5188738. Dr Beck used this as the basis for the circuit I'm asking be turned into a PCB file.. 
> 
> Excerpt from US Patent 5188738
>  
>  with alternating current electric field forces of appropriate electric field strength to attenuate such contaminants to the 
> extent that bacteria, virus, fungus, and/or parasites contained in the
> blood or other body fluids are rendered ineffective to infect and/or affect normally healthy human cells. The treatment, however, does not render the blood or other body fluids biologically unfit for use in humans or other mammals after the treatment. 
> 
> This is just one phase of what he called the 4 step protocal for healing your own body..  
> 
> Crohn's is just one of many diseases that have been treated using this process... or so they say.. but you will never get this info from a doctor... because a patient cured, is a customer lost.. 
> 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Leon Heller <leon355@> wrote:
> >
> > On 18/01/2010 03:01, robbbryder wrote:
> > > Hello Group, I spent the last week visiting my 17 year old son in the hospital... Seems he has Crohn's disease.. which required the removal of about a foot of his intestine.. with any luck he will be home in a couple of days..
> > >
> > > Unfortunatley modern medicine says that there is no cure.. might be able to control it with a little white pill.. or might require more surguries in the future.. Neiher answer satisfies me..
> > >
> > > I recently came across the work of Dr Bob Beck.. if your not familiar I stronly suggest you take the time to google him and at least watch one of his seminars from the late 90's... it is a real eye opener.. as he states that most diseases can be cured..(oppps.. that will get you in trouble with the FDA).. lets say spontanious remishion.. by introducing a micro-amp alternating current into your blood supply..
> > >
> > > US Patent 5188738 verifys this..  but the information has been supressed.. Go Figure..
> > >
> > > Anyway Dr Beck gave the informaiton away for free... including a simple circuit to build... but it requires a 27 - 30 vdc supply...
> > >
> > > I recently found a schematic for a Beck Device that has a voltage multiplier circuit so a single 9vdc batter can be used...
> > >
> > > I'm asking if anyone with the resources could look at the following link, and then post a PCB circuit for it.. in the file I posted today.. (Dr Bob Beck Blood Cleaner)... here is the link...
> > >
> > > http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1443104
> > >
> > > If you have an interest in electronics, I think you would find Dr Beck's lifes work worth studying...  he was a pioneer in the field of electro medicine... including how to protect yourself from electro magnetic mind control.. and addiction cures using simple electronic circuits...
> > >
> > > If your looking for a new challenge, and your heart is in the right place please do what you can to take his schematics, make them into PCB files and share them with the world..
> > >
> > > Thank in advance..
> > > RobbRyder...
> > >
> > > P.S.. if anyone knows of a circuit to measure Orgone.. please post it..
> > 
> > Weird!!!!
> > 
> > I've had Crohn's disease for 45 years and have had five operations for 
> > it and my brother died from it three years ago. I fail to see how a 
> > gadget like that can do anything for sufferers.
> > 
> > Leon
> >
>

For Crohn's, make sure you rule out Celiac ( Gluten intolerance ) Google it.

Otherwise there are some odd remedies that get overlooked often because 
they require something different than the
norm.




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On 18/01/2010 16:17, robbbryder wrote:
> Leon, is it wierd, or maybe just suppressed info.. ? The following is from US Patent 5188738. Dr Beck used this as the basis for the circuit I'm asking be turned into a PCB file..
>
> Excerpt from US Patent 5188738
>
>   with alternating current electric field forces of appropriate electric field strength to attenuate such contaminants to the
> extent that bacteria, virus, fungus, and/or parasites contained in the
> blood or other body fluids are rendered ineffective to infect and/or affect normally healthy human cells. The treatment, however, does not render the blood or other body fluids biologically unfit for use in humans or other mammals after the treatment.
>
> This is just one phase of what he called the 4 step protocal for healing your own body..
>
> Crohn's is just one of many diseases that have been treated using this process... or so they say.. but you will never get this info from a doctor... because a patient cured, is a customer lost..
>

Rubbish!

Leon

At 10:17 AM 1/18/2010, you wrote:
>
>Leon, is it wierd, or maybe just suppressed info.. ? The following 
>is from US Patent 5188738.


proof of function is not required for a patent to be issued. if you 
search,  you will find patents for time machines.

~ Wm.