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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-26 by leon Heller

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From: "wb5kye100" <jflan@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:44 PM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only


> This is not meant to be spam, I am a
> loyal Eagle user, but thought someone
> who is interested in using this tool
> could take advantage of this price.
>
> http://www.kov.com/Purchase/SpecialOffer.aspx

That's actually a mistake! It should have read "$199". He is honouring the
price, though. I'd be very cautious about buying Autotrax EDA, it has always
had lots of problems - check the forum.

Leon

Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-26 by ilijakovacevic

What forum?

Regards
Ilija Kovacevic

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "leon Heller" <leon355@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wb5kye100" <jflan@...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:44 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only
>
>
> > This is not meant to be spam, I am a
> > loyal Eagle user, but thought someone
> > who is interested in using this tool
> > could take advantage of this price.
> >
> > http://www.kov.com/Purchase/SpecialOffer.aspx
>
> That's actually a mistake! It should have read "$199". He is honouring the
> price, though. I'd be very cautious about buying Autotrax EDA, it has always
> had lots of problems - check the forum.
>
> Leon
>

Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-26 by ilijakovacevic

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--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "leon Heller" <leon355@...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wb5kye100" <jflan@...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 1:44 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only
>
>
> > This is not meant to be spam, I am a
> > loyal Eagle user, but thought someone
> > who is interested in using this tool
> > could take advantage of this price.
> >
> > http://www.kov.com/Purchase/SpecialOffer.aspx
>
> That's actually a mistake! It should have read "$199". He is honouring the
> price, though. I'd be very cautious about buying Autotrax EDA, it has always
> had lots of problems - check the forum.
>
> Leon
>

Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-26 by ilijakovacevic

Is it the AutoTRAX forum?

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/autotrax/

Ilija

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ilijakovacevic" <ilijakovacevic@...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only
>
>
> > What forum?
>
> I can't remember. I'm sure I saw it somewhere.
>
> Leon
>

Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-27 by drmail377

.NET is the killer for me. Autotrax EDA is evolving into Autotrax DEX. According to the Autotrax Web site, it is my interpretation that DEX is easier to use in some ways than EDA. The deal killer for me is that DEX requires .NET framework. Been there, not going back, I had a lot of problems with .NET and see it as another security hole.

Also I can't find a printable manual for Autotrax on the site. Finally, I can't seem to figure out how to add custom 3D models. But I didn't dig too much.

I use KiCad, free open-source, cross-platform, 3D visualization and custom 3D models via the free open-source Wings3D application which is tightly integrated. There's a large KiCad Yahoo Group here. The learning curve with KiCad can be a bit steep though.

One possible advantage of Autotrax is that it has built-in SPICE simulation. But then again, KiCad can export the likes of LTSpice netlists. I don't know how good the autorouter in Autotrax is, KiCad's is so-so. I usually don't use an autorouter anyway.

There's an Autorax EDA Yahoo Group with 2,665 members here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autotrax

Not to be confused with the Autotrax EDA Yahoo Group with only three members here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autotraxEDA

$99 for a full EDA package and 12 months of updates is a great deal provided it works as specified. Smart move on the part of the developer to offer it. If you don't mind eventually ending up with a .NET application when DEX overtakes EDA, then give it a try!

Regards, David

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--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wb5kye100" <jflan@...> wrote:
>
> This is not meant to be spam, I am a
> loyal Eagle user, but thought someone
> who is interested in using this tool
> could take advantage of this price.
>
> http://www.kov.com/Purchase/SpecialOffer.aspx
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-27 by Zoran A. Scepanovic

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ilijakovacevic wrote:
> Here are some AutoTRAX DEX videos.
>
> http://kov.com/Tutorials/3D/
> http://kov.com/Tutorials/3D2/
> http://kov.com/Tutorials/AmdPart/
> http://kov.com/Tutorials/bgaWizard/
> http://kov.com/Tutorials/CreatePart/
> http://kov.com/Tutorials/Dip/
>
> Regards
> Ilija Kovacevic
>

BTW, after obtaining the download page for AutotraxLite, no e-mail with
appropriate installation password is sent.

Why?

- --
Srdacan pozdrav,
Zoran A. Scepanovic
zastos@...
www.zastos.com
www.zastos.biz
+381 63 609-993

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Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-27 by ilijakovacevic

If you have Vista or Windows 7 then .NET comes with it.

As far as security, AutoTRAX DEX runs in a Sandbox!

Regards
Ilija Kovacevic

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--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "drmail377" <drmail377@...> wrote:
>
> .NET is the killer for me. Autotrax EDA is evolving into Autotrax DEX. According to the Autotrax Web site, it is my interpretation that DEX is easier to use in some ways than EDA. The deal killer for me is that DEX requires .NET framework. Been there, not going back, I had a lot of problems with .NET and see it as another security hole.
>
> Also I can't find a printable manual for Autotrax on the site. Finally, I can't seem to figure out how to add custom 3D models. But I didn't dig too much.
>
> I use KiCad, free open-source, cross-platform, 3D visualization and custom 3D models via the free open-source Wings3D application which is tightly integrated. There's a large KiCad Yahoo Group here. The learning curve with KiCad can be a bit steep though.
>
> One possible advantage of Autotrax is that it has built-in SPICE simulation. But then again, KiCad can export the likes of LTSpice netlists. I don't know how good the autorouter in Autotrax is, KiCad's is so-so. I usually don't use an autorouter anyway.
>
> There's an Autorax EDA Yahoo Group with 2,665 members here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autotrax
>
> Not to be confused with the Autotrax EDA Yahoo Group with only three members here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/autotraxEDA
>
> $99 for a full EDA package and 12 months of updates is a great deal provided it works as specified. Smart move on the part of the developer to offer it. If you don't mind eventually ending up with a .NET application when DEX overtakes EDA, then give it a try!
>
> Regards, David
>
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "wb5kye100" <jflan@> wrote:
> >
> > This is not meant to be spam, I am a
> > loyal Eagle user, but thought someone
> > who is interested in using this tool
> > could take advantage of this price.
> >
> > http://www.kov.com/Purchase/SpecialOffer.aspx
> >
>

Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-27 by ilijakovacevic

Hi Zoran

It does not need one.

Ilija

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>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> ilijakovacevic wrote:
> > Here are some AutoTRAX DEX videos.
> >
> > http://kov.com/Tutorials/3D/
> > http://kov.com/Tutorials/3D2/
> > http://kov.com/Tutorials/AmdPart/
> > http://kov.com/Tutorials/bgaWizard/
> > http://kov.com/Tutorials/CreatePart/
> > http://kov.com/Tutorials/Dip/
> >
> > Regards
> > Ilija Kovacevic
> >
>
> BTW, after obtaining the download page for AutotraxLite, no e-mail with
> appropriate installation password is sent.
>
> Why?
>
> - --
> Srdacan pozdrav,
> Zoran A. Scepanovic
> zastos@...
> www.zastos.com
> www.zastos.biz
> +381 63 609-993
>
> =====
>
> If the input editor has been designed to reject all bad input,
> an ingenious idiot will discover a method to get bad data past it.
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-27 by Zoran A. Scepanovic

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ilijakovacevic wrote:
> Hi Zoran
>
> It does not need one.
>
> Ilija
>
%< %< %<

P;ease check your mail. Subject is: Pass??

- --
Srdacan pozdrav,
Zoran A. Scepanovic
zastos@...
www.zastos.com
www.zastos.biz
+381 63 609-993

=====


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Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-27 by ilijakovacevic

Hi Zoran

Pass what?

Regards
Ilija Kovacevic

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> ilijakovacevic wrote:
> > Hi Zoran
> >
> > It does not need one.
> >
> > Ilija
> >
> %< %< %<
>
> P;ease check your mail. Subject is: Pass??
>
> - --
> Srdacan pozdrav,
> Zoran A. Scepanovic
> zastos@...
> www.zastos.com
> www.zastos.biz
> +381 63 609-993
>
> =====
>
>
> If you miss one issue of any magazine, it will be the issue that
> contains the article, story or installment you were most anxious to read.
> All of your friends either missed it, lost it or threw it out. Love is
> like pi - natural, irrational, and very important.
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Autotrax EDA + DEX for $99 Link - Today Only

2009-11-28 by Zoran A. Scepanovic

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ilijakovacevic wrote:
> Hi Zoran
>
> Pass what?
>
> Regards
> Ilija Kovacevic
>


OK, please check: http://zastosen.blogspot.com/


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Srdacan pozdrav,
Zoran A. Scepanovic
zastos@...
www.zastos.com
www.zastos.biz
+381 63 609-993

=====


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