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PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-28 by Tamseel Kotawdekar

Dear All,
I have a small query.
I have successfuly modified an EPSON R310 Printer for Printing onto PCBs.
It Prints really beautifully.
I m using EPSON Durabrite INKs which are famous for its water-proof printing
quality.
*Now my problem is, it does not last until the complete PCB is etched.*
*Its resists for some time, I can say for about 5-10 mins and then gets
washed off. *
The Procedure I follow is:
1. Clean PCB with Acetone
2. Strach it with a sand Paper.
3. Print it in Printer.
4. Heat it up with Iron.
5. Put it for etching.
I m using ferric chloride for etching PCBs.
Also I make sure I put PCB for etching only when INKs are completely dry on
PCB.
Please help

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-28 by Stefan Trethan

Good work.
Try MISPRO yellow ink, it is very tough after curing with the iron and
probably holds up to the etchant much better.
<http://www.inksupply.com/arcink_mispro.cfm>

ST
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Tamseel Kotawdekar <aliensole@...> wrote:
> Dear All,
> I have a small query.
> I have successfuly modified an EPSON R310 Printer for Printing onto PCBs.
> It Prints really beautifully.
> I m using EPSON Durabrite INKs which are famous for its water-proof printing
> quality.
> *Now my problem is, it does not last until the complete PCB is etched.*
> *Its resists for some time, I can say for about 5-10 mins and then gets
> washed off. *
> The Procedure I follow is:
> 1. Clean PCB with Acetone
> 2. Strach it with a sand Paper.
> 3. Print it in Printer.
> 4. Heat it up with Iron.
> 5. Put it for etching.
> I m using ferric chloride for etching PCBs.
> Also I make sure I put PCB for etching only when INKs are completely dry on
> PCB.
> Please help
>
> --
>   Have A Nice Day
>   (¨`·.·´¨) Always
>    `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
>   (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
>    `·.¸.·´
> --Tamseel--
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-28 by Tamseel Kotawdekar

Hi Stefan,
I had earlier read ur article on the same and also read the usage of MISPRO
INKS used by u...
I tried a lot to get it here in India but did not succeed in the same.
Cant durabrite used for the same purpose?
Please suggest.
Tamseel.
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>wrote:

>
>
> Good work.
> Try MISPRO yellow ink, it is very tough after curing with the iron and
> probably holds up to the etchant much better.
> <http://www.inksupply.com/arcink_mispro.cfm>
>
> ST
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Tamseel Kotawdekar <aliensole@...<aliensole%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > I have a small query.
> > I have successfuly modified an EPSON R310 Printer for Printing onto PCBs.
> > It Prints really beautifully.
> > I m using EPSON Durabrite INKs which are famous for its water-proof
> printing
> > quality.
> > *Now my problem is, it does not last until the complete PCB is etched.*
> > *Its resists for some time, I can say for about 5-10 mins and then gets
> > washed off. *
> > The Procedure I follow is:
> > 1. Clean PCB with Acetone
> > 2. Strach it with a sand Paper.
> > 3. Print it in Printer.
> > 4. Heat it up with Iron.
> > 5. Put it for etching.
> > I m using ferric chloride for etching PCBs.
> > Also I make sure I put PCB for etching only when INKs are completely dry
> on
> > PCB.
> > Please help
> >
> > --
> >   Have A Nice Day
> >   (¨`·.·´¨) Always
> >    `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
> >   (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
> >    `·.¸.·´
> > --Tamseel--
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and
> Photos:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>  
>



-- 
   Have A Nice Day
   (¨`·.·´¨) Always
    `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
   (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
    `·.¸.·´
--Tamseel--


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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-28 by Stefan Trethan

I really don't know, I never tried the durabright, sorry.

You can try different heating times and temperatures, and also maybe
different etchants?

ST
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Tamseel Kotawdekar <aliensole@...> wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> I had earlier read ur article on the same and also read the usage of MISPRO
> INKS used by u...
> I tried a lot to get it here in India but did not succeed in the same.
> Cant durabrite used for the same purpose?
> Please suggest.
> Tamseel.
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Good work.
>> Try MISPRO yellow ink, it is very tough after curing with the iron and
>> probably holds up to the etchant much better.
>> <http://www.inksupply.com/arcink_mispro.cfm>
>>
>> ST
>>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Tamseel Kotawdekar <aliensole@...<aliensole%40gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear All,
>> > I have a small query.
>> > I have successfuly modified an EPSON R310 Printer for Printing onto PCBs.
>> > It Prints really beautifully.
>> > I m using EPSON Durabrite INKs which are famous for its water-proof
>> printing
>> > quality.
>> > *Now my problem is, it does not last until the complete PCB is etched.*
>> > *Its resists for some time, I can say for about 5-10 mins and then gets
>> > washed off. *
>> > The Procedure I follow is:
>> > 1. Clean PCB with Acetone
>> > 2. Strach it with a sand Paper.
>> > 3. Print it in Printer.
>> > 4. Heat it up with Iron.
>> > 5. Put it for etching.
>> > I m using ferric chloride for etching PCBs.
>> > Also I make sure I put PCB for etching only when INKs are completely dry
>> on
>> > PCB.
>> > Please help
>> >
>> > --
>> >   Have A Nice Day
>> >   (¨`·.·´¨) Always
>> >    `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
>> >   (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
>> >    `·.¸.·´
>> > --Tamseel--
>> >
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and
>> Photos:
>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>   Have A Nice Day
>   (¨`·.·´¨) Always
>    `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
>   (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
>    `·.¸.·´
> --Tamseel--
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-28 by Stefan Trethan

And try different colors too. With MISPRO there are huge differences
between the colors.

ST
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On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...> wrote:
> I really don't know, I never tried the durabright, sorry.
>
> You can try different heating times and temperatures, and also maybe
> different etchants?
>
> ST
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Tamseel Kotawdekar <aliensole@...> wrote:
>> Hi Stefan,
>> I had earlier read ur article on the same and also read the usage of MISPRO
>> INKS used by u...
>> I tried a lot to get it here in India but did not succeed in the same.
>> Cant durabrite used for the same purpose?
>> Please suggest.
>> Tamseel.
>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good work.
>>> Try MISPRO yellow ink, it is very tough after curing with the iron and
>>> probably holds up to the etchant much better.
>>> <http://www.inksupply.com/arcink_mispro.cfm>
>>>
>>> ST
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Tamseel Kotawdekar <aliensole@gmail.com<aliensole%40gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Dear All,
>>> > I have a small query.
>>> > I have successfuly modified an EPSON R310 Printer for Printing onto PCBs.
>>> > It Prints really beautifully.
>>> > I m using EPSON Durabrite INKs which are famous for its water-proof
>>> printing
>>> > quality.
>>> > *Now my problem is, it does not last until the complete PCB is etched.*
>>> > *Its resists for some time, I can say for about 5-10 mins and then gets
>>> > washed off. *
>>> > The Procedure I follow is:
>>> > 1. Clean PCB with Acetone
>>> > 2. Strach it with a sand Paper.
>>> > 3. Print it in Printer.
>>> > 4. Heat it up with Iron.
>>> > 5. Put it for etching.
>>> > I m using ferric chloride for etching PCBs.
>>> > Also I make sure I put PCB for etching only when INKs are completely dry
>>> on
>>> > PCB.
>>> > Please help
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >   Have A Nice Day
>>> >   (¨`·.·´¨) Always
>>> >    `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
>>> >   (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
>>> >    `·.¸.·´
>>> > --Tamseel--
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and
>>> Photos:
>>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   Have A Nice Day
>>   (¨`·.·´¨) Always
>>    `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
>>   (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
>>    `·.¸.·´
>> --Tamseel--
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>>
>> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos:
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-28 by wnnelson0

I believe your problem is the ink. The R series 200-310... use a dye based ink which will not cure on the circuit board like the pigment inks. Durabright is a pigment ink which does work in the C 80... series, but I don't think that is the ink you are using, maybe Claria ink which the US R series use. If you go to the R 1900 series and up I think they may have a pigment ink. Are you in the asian region? I think that's where the R310 is sold.

Re: PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-28 by warrenbrayshaw

You need to cure (Bake) the ink and not simply dry it. Search for earlier posts with the word "Cure". ST describes MISPRo Yellow darkening and hard to get off when sufficient curing has been achieved.



Tamseel Kotawdekar wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> I have successfuly modified an EPSON R310 Printer for Printing onto PCBs.
> It Prints really beautifully.
> I m using EPSON Durabrite INKs which are famous for its water-proof printing
> quality.
> *Now my problem is, it does not last until the complete PCB is etched.*
> *Its resists for some time, I can say for about 5-10 mins and then gets
> washed off. *
> The Procedure I follow is:
> 1. Clean PCB with Acetone
> 2. Strach it with a sand Paper.
> 3. Print it in Printer.
> 4. Heat it up with Iron.
> 5. Put it for etching.
> I m using ferric chloride for etching PCBs.
> Also I make sure I put PCB for etching only when INKs are completely dry on
> PCB.
> Please help
> 
> -- 
>    Have A Nice Day
>    (¨`·.·´¨) Always
>     `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
>    (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
>     `·.¸.·´
> --Tamseel--
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB Printing with EPSON Durabrite INKs.

2009-05-29 by Tamseel Kotawdekar

Hi nelson,

Thanks for the reply.

I kno R Series machine uses DYE  inks. Infact Claria is again Dye Based.

I m using a C67 Cart in R310.. That is the modification I have done..

tamseel


On 5/29/09, wnnelson0 <wnnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> I believe your problem is the ink. The R series 200-310... use a dye based
> ink which will not cure on the circuit board like the pigment inks.
> Durabright is a pigment ink which does work in the C 80... series, but I
> don't think that is the ink you are using, maybe Claria ink which the US R
> series use. If you go to the R 1900 series and up I think they may have a
> pigment ink. Are you in the asian region? I think that's where the R310 is
> sold.
>
> 
>



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    Have A Nice Day
    (¨`·.·´¨) Always
     `·.¸(¨`·.·´¨) Keep
    (¨`·.·´¨)..·´ Smiling!
     `·.¸.·´
--Tamseel--


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