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heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick paper alternative: baking paper

2007-07-28 by michael_haberler

here's an idea for laser toner transfer - it's not a "process" (yet) -
maybe somebody gives it a try:

Being a cook, I have "Backpapier" (baking paper) in the kitchen, which
is heat-resistant anti-stick coated paper. It's very thin and robust.

I thought the "anti-stick" feature would work with laser toner as
well, not just cookie doe - and it does. The toner comes off easily
from the paper when ironing it to metal.

I dont have a PCB or pre-etching liquids around here right now, so I
tried to transfer a PCB design with a iron onto a hard disk platter I
had lying around.

The paper comes right off when the metal with the paper is thrown into
water. I havent learned the process of direct transfer yet, as for
heat and duration, but results look promising - some places of the
paper had the toner completely removed and transferred to the platter.

The paper comes on a roll and needs to be cut into sheets. These dont
feed easily into a laser printer directly, but it's very thin - so I
glued a patch of that paper to a normal A4 paper sheet - that is
strong enough to keep the baking paper in shape for the printing
process. Then I put it in the manual feeder - voila.

I'll cut a few sheets and put them in a thick book - let's see if they
come out flat. But the glue trick is good enough.

This is the paper I used - available in every supermarket:
http://www.toppits.de/de/sortiment/back-profis/back-papier/index.html

I'd be interested to hear what other cooks report ;-)

-Michael

Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick paper alternative: baking paper

2007-07-28 by docstein99

> The paper comes right off when the metal with the paper is thrown into
> water. I havent learned the process of direct transfer yet, as for
> heat and duration, but results look promising - some places of the
> paper had the toner completely removed and transferred to the platter.

Does the wax or whatever coating also get transferred to the metal?  
Because if that doesnt get vaporized, then it may act as a resist - 
with the toner itself, layored on top of the copper.

Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick paper alternative: baking paper

2007-07-29 by wayneosdias

> This is the paper I used - available in every supermarket:
> http://www.toppits.de/de/sortiment/back-profis/back-papier/index.html
> 
> I'd be interested to hear what other cooks report ;-)
> 
> -Michael
>

Looks interesting, I followed your link and Im unable to decipher 
exactly what the product is, is it ordinary wax paper?

Currently I just use laser photo paper, but removing the paper after 
transfer is a total pain, your tech sounds very interesting.

wayne

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick paper alternative: baking paper

2007-07-29 by Leon

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Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick paper 
alternative: baking paper


>
>> This is the paper I used - available in every supermarket:
>> http://www.toppits.de/de/sortiment/back-profis/back-papier/index.html
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear what other cooks report ;-)
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>
> Looks interesting, I followed your link and Im unable to decipher
> exactly what the product is, is it ordinary wax paper?
>
> Currently I just use laser photo paper, but removing the paper after
> transfer is a total pain, your tech sounds very interesting.

I think it's coated with Teflon.

Leon
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick paper alternative: baking paper

2007-07-29 by Gus S Calabrese

>
> On Jul 29, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Leon wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "wayneosdias" <wayneosdias@...>
> To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:05 PM
> Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick  
> paper
> alternative: baking paper
>
> >
> >> This is the paper I used - available in every supermarket:
> >> http://www.toppits.de/de/sortiment/back-profis/back-papier/ 
> index.html
> >>
> >> I'd be interested to hear what other cooks report ;-)
> >>
> >> -Michael
> >>
> >
> > Looks interesting, I followed your link and Im unable to decipher
> > exactly what the product is, is it ordinary wax paper?
> >
> > Currently I just use laser photo paper, but removing the paper after
> > transfer is a total pain, your tech sounds very interesting.
>
> I think it's coated with Teflon.
>
> Leon
> --
> Leon Heller
> Amateur radio call-sign G1HSM
> Yaesu FT-817ND and FT-857D transceivers
> Suzuki SV1000S motorcycle
> leon355@...
> http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
>
>

would this work ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Baking-Parchment-Paper-Pan-Liner-25-Dbl-50-Sheets- 
NR_W0QQitemZ260142868921QQcmdZViewItem

Gus





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Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick paper alternative: baking paper

2007-08-17 by dagmargoodboat

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Gus S Calabrese <gsc@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Jul 29, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Leon wrote:
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "wayneosdias" <wayneosdias@...>
> > To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:05 PM
> > Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: heat press transfer - cheap anti-stick  
> > paper
> > alternative: baking paper
> >
> > >
> > >> This is the paper I used - available in every supermarket:
> > >> http://www.toppits.de/de/sortiment/back-profis/back-papier/ 
> > index.html
> > >>
> > >> I'd be interested to hear what other cooks report ;-)
> > >>
> > >> -Michael
> > >>
> > >
> > > Looks interesting, I followed your link and Im unable to decipher
> > > exactly what the product is, is it ordinary wax paper?
> > >
> > > Currently I just use laser photo paper, but removing the paper after
> > > transfer is a total pain, your tech sounds very interesting.
> >
> > I think it's coated with Teflon.
> >
> > Leon
> > --
> > Leon Heller
> > Amateur radio call-sign G1HSM
> > Yaesu FT-817ND and FT-857D transceivers
> > Suzuki SV1000S motorcycle
> > leon355@...
> > http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
> >
> >
> 
> would this work ?
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Baking-Parchment-Paper-Pan-Liner-25-Dbl-50-Sheets- 
> NR_W0QQitemZ260142868921QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> Gus

That's the stuff--baker's parchment paper.  I had the same thought,
but it doesn't look like our members have had much success.[1]  If you
search the archives for "parchment" you'll get a number of reports.

Cheers,
James Arthur

[1] For example:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/10653
  "Get some of the Reynold's parchment paper, it's
   pretty well non-stick itself."

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/10868
"The wife's silicon baking parchment worked
 wonderfully on the transfer side of things,
 but didn't accept a very dense coating of
 toner to start with, so I abandoned it."

 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/13899

 http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs/message/15283

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