Homebrew PCBs

Hi Group
Please let me know where to find an electrical schematics plus HPGL 
driving software for a mill/drill
CNC Machine?
Is that $500 electronics ready?
Cristian

Cristian,

Try Eagel CAD from Cadsoft. See: http://www.cadsoft.de/

It has a CAM processor that outputs HPGL (among MANY other formats.) 

Jim

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Cristian <bip@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Group
> Please let me know where to find an electrical schematics plus HPGL 
> driving software for a mill/drill
> CNC Machine?
> Is that $500 electronics ready?
> Cristian
>

Why don't you check out:

http://www.machsupport.com/artsoft/index/index.htm

There is also a very active group here on yahoogroups:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mach1mach2cnc/

HTH

Vic
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>Try Eagel CAD from Cadsoft. See: 
><http://www.cadsoft.de/>http://www.cadsoft.de/
>
>It has a CAM processor that outputs HPGL (among MANY other formats.)

True Jim, but I need a software to drive a CNC with HPGL, and the 
related electronics.
See below.
Cristian

> > Please let me know where to find an electrical schematics plus HPGL
> > driving software for a mill/drill
> > CNC Machine?
> > Is that $500 electronics ready?
> > Cristian


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Leon Heller, G1HSM
leon.heller@...
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller

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From: "Cristian" <bip@...>
To: <Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: CNC


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>>Try Eagel CAD from Cadsoft. See: 
>><http://www.cadsoft.de/>http://www.cadsoft.de/
>>
>>It has a CAM processor that outputs HPGL (among MANY other formats.)
> 
> True Jim, but I need a software to drive a CNC with HPGL, and the 
> related electronics.
> See below.
> Cristian
> 
>> > Please let me know where to find an electrical schematics plus HPGL
>> > driving software for a mill/drill
>> > CNC Machine?

Lots of it is around, here is a typical example:

http://www.minitech.com/software/Mach1/mach1_index.htm

Leon
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Leon Heller, G1HSM
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Why don't you use g-codes? You can use EMC (http://www.linuxcnc.org) to control step motors of CNC .
 Volkan

----- Original Message ----
From: Cristian <bip@...>
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:21:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: CNC

                           
 >Try Eagel CAD from Cadsoft. See: 
 ><http://www.cadsoft. de/>http://www.cadsoft. de/
 >
 >It has a CAM processor that outputs HPGL (among MANY other formats.)
 
 True Jim, but I need a software to drive a CNC with HPGL, and the 
 related electronics.
 See below.
 Cristian
 
 > > Please let me know where to find an electrical schematics plus HPGL
 > > driving software for a mill/drill
 > > CNC Machine?
 > > Is that $500 electronics ready?
 > > Cristian
 
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There is a program called Kellycam (I think that's right) that will read 
HPGL or G code and drive motion control systems.

For G code only look at TurboCNC or Mach 3 by ArtSoft.

All of these have web sites so hit Google.

Mach3 and KelleyCAM work in Windows but TurboCNC runs best in DOS 6.22.

Hugh


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>>Try Eagel CAD from Cadsoft. See: 
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>True Jim, but I need a software to drive a CNC with HPGL, and the 
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V
Do you know of a tool to convert BMP's to HPGL?


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> Lots of people wrote:
> <stuff about CNC software>

>>>> Please let me know where to find an electrical
>>>> schematics plus HPGL driving software for a
>>>> mill/drill CNC Machine?

http://www.linuxcnc.org/

Get the software - it was intended for G-code but
HPGL is convertable if there isn't native support.

There is a HAL (hardware abstraction layer) in
EMC2 that lets you control any electronics realy.

Electrical schematic is depenadant on your motors.

If you don't have the motors aleady then there are
some decisions to make before you go much further.

What kind of mill do you have and what are you
planing on doing with it ?

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>What kind of mill do you have and what are you
>planing on doing with it ?

Bungard's CCD2 intended to be modified (it is not software 
modification-friendly) to mill/drill pcbs

>> Me wrote:
>> What kind of mill do you have and what are you
>> planing on doing with it ?
 
> Cristian wrote:
> Bungard's CCD2 intended to be modified (it is not
> software modification-friendly) to mill/drill
> pcbs


Um - the Bungard CCD2

http://www.bungard.com/seiten/p-ccd_2.htm

Looks like it already mills PCBs ???


Anyways - if you do want to run it with your own
software/hardware then it should not be too hard.

Look at the link I sent before about Linux EMC.

It can connect straight to the L297 type
controllers shown here

http://pminmo.com/


L297s are very low tech and pretty dodgy - but
then again that thing from bungard is hardly
21st century with "high torque stepper motors"


If you want to go servo motors do a google
search for 

"ELM servo"

and you will find a tidy little atmel servo
controller some nice bloke has done.

>Um - the Bungard CCD2
>
><http://www.bungard.com/seiten/p-ccd_2.htm>http://www.bungard.com/seiten/p-ccd_2.htm
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>Looks like it already mills PCBs ???

Yes, it mills, but I need to feed it with something like BMP instead of HPGL.
It seems is hard to find a bmp to hpgl transformer.
Any idea here is welcome.
Cristian 

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>> Me wrote:
>> Looks like it already mills PCBs ???

> Christian wrote:
> Yes, it mills, but I need to feed it with
> something like BMP instead of HPGL.  It
> seems is hard to find a bmp to hpgl
> transformer.  Any idea here is welcome.

http://timeguy.com/cradek/image-to-gcode

One of the guys that does a lot of stuff
with the Linux EMC thing has a BMP to G
code page.

Does not look very Windoze friendly though.

But realy - BMP to HPGL should be a no-
brainer shoudlnt it ?  Raster to a whole
lot of horizontal vectors.

>One of the guys that does a lot of stuff
>with the Linux EMC thing has a BMP to G
>code page.
>
>Does not look very Windoze friendly though.

www.imagetogcode.com
converts bmp to gcode in Windows

By the way, is Gcode different from Gerber?
Googling I've found that Gcode is RS274D (that means earlier Gerber, 
with separate aperture file), but my utility for converting
Gerber to HPGL (to feed my CNC Machine) doesn't recognize it!!