I totally agree that the best solution is an etch AND storage tank, all in one. Unfortunately, m tank is plastic. I (currently) use AP. I have heard anecdotal evidence that it eats plastic so I dont want to store it in the tank. I've kept my eye out for a glass tank but they are all too big (4 L/1 G) and I want to only have 1 L of etchant for safety sake. I guess at some point I'll build a glass one if I dont find a suitable container. --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Stefan Trethan" <stefan_trethan@g...> wrote: > On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 14:23:55 -0000, Phil <phil1960us@y...> wrote: > > > that's not a bad idea at all for etching though I'd be very careful > > even with double bagging. Its a good, cheap way to do quick one- off > > etches. Even allows for aggitation though I'd be reluctant to handle > > a full bag. > > > > Still, I prefer the tank I made which has a bubbler and heater. > > Yeah, its more "stuff" and requires cleaning but I get very > > consistant, even etching and can do multiple boards at once. Pouring > > etchant back into the storage container is very precise. I'll stick > > with it. > > > > Phil, the trick is to make the container in a way so that almost > no cleaning and no pouring back for storage is required. > (Though i doubt emptying and discarding the bags is less hassle than > cleaning > your container) > I have a glass tank for CuCl, which holds one liter and can do boards > approx. 30cmx20cm. > I keep the etchant in all the time (silicone adhesive seal for the lid), > if i need a board i lift the lid, clamp the board in the holder, put it > back in, etch. > > (note: not touching any "wet" internal parts while doing that, the board > clamp is "remote controlled" through the lid and operated by the thumb of > the hand holding the lid while the other > hand positions the pcb) > > When it is ready i lift it out by the handle, position it over the water > container, and push > the "remote control" for the clamp mechanism. the PCB is released and in > the water. > > You see, not a drop of etchant is wasted because ONLY the PCB can carry > any etchant on it's surface > and is washed. the other parts never touch anything, and never get cleaned. > It is also sealed off enough so that closeby tools won't corrode. > The whole tank sits in a plastic container but there were no leaks so far. > The nice thing is you can clearly see both sides while in the etchant, no > need to pull it out > to see if it is completed. I have a hydrometer in there to see the density > (CuCl), and > also a electrolysis setup with carbon electrodes, but i didn't fire it up > yet 'cause i > think it isn't really useful. I could easily add a bubbler and heater > because the last 5cm > on both ends of the lid are separated and can be used to carry a hose, a > heater, or like it > is now carbon electrodes. I don't want a bubble because of the possible > fumes. > However, speeding it up is easy by adding mechanical agitation. A geared > motor > "sways" the holder from side to side (the silicone seal allows that) and > does > speed up the process a lot. > > Best part: building was basically free, i had the glass and the lid/holder > is made > of old printer chassis. The slicone adhesive is the only cost. > > I can only suggest to go on and build one, it is a big difference if you > have to prepare > your "bowl" and storage bottle, handle dangerous chemicals, or just open > the lid and put > it in there without getting your hands dirty. > > ST
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Another use for baggies was Re: hot glue gun glue
2004-08-09 by Phil
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