John, I now know how you feel. I spent hours and hours drawing a board in TurboCAD only to find out that when I milled the board, I had inverted one of the layers. So, all of the holes and traces on the other side were off. So, it is a pain. I agree. Hopefully this code we are working on will ease the pain until one of the comercial packages can save in GCode. Dave --- In Homebrew_PCBs@y..., "crankorgan" <john@k...> wrote: > Hi Dave, > I ment the guys who make Eagle or Target. Make a drawing > program that saves the pad outlines as Gcode or PLT. Running a post > processor is after the fact. You have to put up with all kinds of > garbage. I do beleive a program is comming! Lots of people talking > about milling circuit boards at the hobby level. I would even > go for a Gcode save in Turbocad at this point. I left out two > holes on my last circuit board. Now I have two or more hours > of work to fix it. Adding the holes is easy. Then I have to rotate > the drawing. Convert it to Gcode. Take out some junk. Add some > other stuff. Then center the Gcode, then offset it for the machine > I mill it on. All because I left two hole out. Now if I could draw > in GCode. We are talking minutes. > > John > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@y..., "ph4appl" <ph4appl@y...> wrote: > > Not easy by any stretch of the imagination. If anyone doesn't > believe > > me, take a look at > > > > http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/studentwork/CESCG99/SKrivograd/ > > > > This page describes some of the math involved with generating an > > outline or tool path. > > > > On a side note, I got ToolPathPro to compile this afternoon. I ran > a > > sample DXF file through it and generated some rather interesting > > GCodes. I'll have some pics on my website shortly. The good news is > > that Alan has inspired me to keep on working on this thing. It can > > currently handle direct DXF export from TraxMakerPro and convert to > > GCode. I still need to work on the optimization algorithm, and > forsee > > several weeks of coding, but it is in the works. > > > > Dave > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@y..., Alan Marconett KM6VV <KM6VV@a...> wrote: > > > Hi John, > > > > > > Well, I wouldn't say it's a "very simple program to write", right > > Dave? > > > I've seen the three Gerber files from TCi. Silk, component, and > > > solder. Both component (green) and solder (red) have traces and > > pads. > > > The silk (yellow) is component outline. > > > I only saw a few random blue and red lines when I loaded a TCi > > gerber > > > file into KCam. I suspect I have an old version. As long as I > can > > > convert the files, I'll just run them through my own "process". > > > > > > Hay! If the cost is high, maybe I can sell an inexpensive > converter > > > program! > > > > > > Alan KM6VV > > > > > > > > > crankorgan wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Alan, > > > > TCI makes three Gerber files. One of them has the > > > > pads and traces. When I plot the Gerber I get lots of > > > > BLUE lines. Red is cut and blue is travel. When I see > > > > more BLUE than Red I quit. I like my machine to spend > > > > it's time cutting not traveling all over. Most program > > > > that do outlines of traces are bogus. There are several > > > > new ones coming out. Big money! A very simple program to write. > I > > > > think the cost is high because there are so few PCBMills in > > > > use. They are very expensive to buy. I got laughed at last > > > > year when I came out with my plans. Now there are several > > > > people with homemade PCBMills. Here is your chance to get > > > > in on the fun! > > > > > > > > John > > > >
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Re: TCi PCB program
2002-05-02 by ph4appl
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