Yeah they are definitely pretty oxidized.. for example, where the sticker on the plastic packaging sat this is noticeable difference in color. And I keep rubbing down with the acetone and still red dust comes off. I'll try a light sanding and see.. makes sense, these boards seem a little more discoloured than the others. From: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:27 AM To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Vintage PCB toner transfer problems I haven't been following the thread, so hopefully i'm not redundant. That vintage board may be much heavier than you usually use i.e. 2+ ounce copper etc. so you may need to heat it quite a bit longer to get up to transfer temperatures. That stuff may be WELL oxidized, to the point you have to get drastic to clean it enough for tt. I have used a medium wire wheel on a bench grinder in the past. The scratches may also help the toner to stick. HTH ================= On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 08:40:06 -0700, you wrote: >Hello, > > > >A while ago I bought some vintage PCB stock from 1973. I was really excited >about this as it allowed me to go the last mile in making a reproduction >look authentic. However, I have discovered to my dismay that the toner >transfer process is not working so well with these boards. > > > >I've tried three media with my iron (I don't have a laminator): > > > >Blue PCB transfer sheets. They stick wonderfully to the modern stock but >not at all to this vintage stuff. > >Yellow toner transfer paper. Worked on the first two boards mostly, but now >won't stick to any of the others I have at all. > >Magazine paper. This sticks and I get 90% of the image, but that's it. And >only with much greater effort than usual. > > > >I have scrubbed these boards with comet and a scothbrite pad. I note even >after doing so I still get a fine red powder residue when wiping with >acetone. So I'm wondering if maybe this copper has just kinda gone bad over >44 years. > > > >Another question - on a couple of boards I've used permanent marker to fill >in gaps, but the etchant always eats it away like it wasn't there. Is there >a particular brand I should be using? This has happened with both >vinegar/peroxide solutions and FeCl. > > > >Thanks! > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam paign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_cam paign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> www.avg.com
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RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] Vintage PCB toner transfer problems
2017-07-06 by Brad
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