He's not less HCl, he's just using more pure hydrogen peroxide -- which also means less water. Heating the solution with an aquarium heater, and having a bubbler float bubbles by the board both speed things up. Be aware that the higher temperatures can increase the fumes -- and you do NOT want to inhale these. The bubbles can also a) be rougher on your etch resist and b) increase undercutting. I saw the last point in a white paper somewhere,although I can't seem to find the reference now though. Sent from my iPad On 2011-11-27, at 9:38 AM, DaveC <davec2468@...> wrote: >31% HCL, also known as Muriatic Acid. A standard strength I buy at >just about any hardware/building supply store. Also available at >pool supply stores. I'm using the same effective ratio. My muriatic is 15% and h2o2 is 3% and my ratio is 1:1.This is the same as you're using: 31% hcl and 3% h2o2 at a ratio of 1:2. I'm still not sure why my etching takes so long. > > >I've also tried 1 part HCL and 2 parts 12% H2O2 but the reaction was >> >too fast and hot to control easily. I'm confused: you use LESS hcl and the reaction was faster? I thought the acid is what increased (using more) or decreased (using less) the speed of the reaction, no? Thanks, Dave -=-=-=- >--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, DaveC <davec2468@...> wrote: >> >> What strength hcl are you using? The ratio is easily understood, but >> it all depends on the strengths. (I see you use 3 percent h2o2.) >> >> Thanks >> Dave >> >> -=-=-=- >> >> >I use this technique all the time. I can do a 4X6 inch board in >> >about 2 minutes. I use 1 Part HCL and 2 Parts 3% H2O2. I make just >> >enough etchant to cover the board about 1/8 to 1/4 inch and lightly >> >brush the surface with a foam Paint brush. I etch at room >> >temperature. Works very well for me. >> > > > >I've also tried 1 part HCL and 2 parts 12% H2O2 but the reaction was >> >too fast and hot to control easily. > > > >> > >> > >> >--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "tda7000" <Tda7000@> wrote: >> >> >> >> I see some people get very fast etch times with a sponge and >> >>ferric chloride... >> >> >> >> But has anyone tried that method with the HCl and H2O2 solution, >> >>or the cupric chloride? >> >> > > > > Or anything else for that matter? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Sponge etching with HCl and H2O2?
2011-11-27 by Benjamin Blumer
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