My acid of choice is ammonium per sulfate, not ferric chloride. I just happen to have a radio shack down the road owned by a friend. Stefan Trethan wrote: > and it has nylon tip? > or felt? > or metal? > > thanks > > st > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:05:57 -0400, Don Perry <mojo@...> wrote: > > > I have the plotter running - slow. And I always add angle to each 90 deg > > trace > > in the artwork. A short trace placed in the inside corner of each trace. > > The > > angle is the shortest one that fits for the trace width. That helps and > > touchup > > after plotting does too. I also sometimes keep the pcb in the plotter > > after > > its done, and replot after it has dried 15-20. That CG pen I use doesn't > > seem > > to scrape ink off on retracing. > > > > Stefan Trethan wrote: > > > >> which tip has this pen? > >> which color has the ink? > >> > >> maybe i really have to search this bottle of fe3cl... and then try > >> different inks. > >> > >> The problem with using pens directly for me was that line with varies > >> with > >> speed. > >> at the corners the pen slows down and the line with increases. > >> i didn'tlike this, the were small tears at both sides of each corner. > >> > >> don't you have this problem with the resist pen? > >> > >> st > >> > >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:06:55 -0400, Don Perry <mojo@...> wrote: > >> > >> > Here's what works for me, I use a HP 7475 pen plotter with a slot cut > >> in > >> > the > >> > case. I use a GC #22-222 Etch Resist Ink Pen. 1/64 " tip. Its > >> fitted > >> > into a > >> > drilled and honed out dried up HP pen. I have to keep etching fast. I > >> > heat Fe > >> > CL3 on my grill outside, in a oven dish. Wear glasses, gloves, and > >> > apron. I > >> > use a oven baster to spray the center of the project. The edges seem > >> to > >> > eat > >> > off first and I keep the acid going to the board center. This is not > >> a > >> > time to > >> > walk off and come back. I keep an eye on the board till it is > >> complete. > >> > You > >> > can always put it back in, but once its eaten the copper away its > >> done. > >> > > >> > Stefan Trethan wrote: > >> > > >> >> @Dave > >> >> thanks for the tip with laquer thinner for solving colophony resin. > >> >> i tried it and it is much better than alcohol. > >> >> The "laquer" is the same density / concentration in the whole jar, it > >> >> stays > >> >> good dissolved without stirring etc. > >> >> with alcohol it was always thicker at the bottom (with acetone too). > >> >> Dries quick and leaves a shiny coat. > >> >> > >> >> I actually tried it as a resin for etching (because the quality is > >> much > >> >> better now). > >> >> The problem is the plotter pens i have (carbide tipped) don't leave a > >> >> thick > >> >> enough layer to resist HCl H2O2. > >> >> I will try repeated plotting and maybe try Fe3Cl which i have > >> standing > >> >> around somewhere (Does it decay in a sealed Bottle?). > >> >> > >> >> But i applied it with a piece of wire and with a piece of a paper > >> towel > >> >> "disposeable brush with needle-nose pliers handle). > >> >> > >> >> And this areas resisted the etching very well. > >> >> So i think the plotter pens simply make a too thin layer. > >> >> > >> >> any ideas? - would be great to solder the boards with resin layer and > >> >> also > >> >> protection against corrosion. > >> >> > >> >> st > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Bookmarks and > >> files: > >> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBs > >> >> > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> >> Homebrew_PCBs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Your use of Yahoo! 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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] colophony resin in laquer thinner
2003-09-26 by Don Perry
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