I've certainly had little trouble with 10mil traces (0.010 inch) out of Eagle with Ammonium Persulphate - I do find Eagle's square through-hole pads a bit prone to over etching, but come to think about it, they etch OK, they're just bloody small! PG On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Donald H Locker <dhlocker@...>wrote: > > > The program generating the tracks won't change the etch results. Try a more > dilute etchant, make sure the toner is well and truly bonded to the copper > surface. 16 mil traces should not be a problem. > > > Donald. > -- > "Plain Text" email -- it's an accessibility issue > () no proprietary attachments; no html mail > /\ ascii ribbon campaign - <www.asciiribbon.org> > > ----- "msilv3r" <msilv3r@... <msilv3r%40yahoo.com>> wrote: > > > Thanks JP. I'm going to redo the tracks in Eagle and try it again. > > > > To get the thermal transfer I used this paper from DigiKey: > > > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?vendor=0&keywords=182-1003-ND > > - I had tried 20 times prior using different transfer paper, like > > magazines and transparency paper. I was amazed at how easy the thermal > > paper worked. > > > > I then put it through a lamination a bunch of times. > > > > I followed a video tutorial for the most part. There's a great video > > tutorial on how the entire etching process here: > > http://www.getlofi.com/?p=1997 > > > > -Mike > > > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>, > "jp.gleyzes" <freedom2000@...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > The tracks were really small... and may be you let the etching too > > long time ? > > > > > > By the way, how did you succeed in having such a beautiful transfer > > ? > > > > > > I have spent hours this week end tying to toner transfer a pcb... > > unsuccessfully... Always some tracks missing... > > > And I tested 12 times... > > > > > > JP > > > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com <Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>, > "msilv3r" <msilv3r@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Slavko. I just did it and it certainly etched the copper > > well. A little too well. I thought the transfer looked great. However > > the etch took off the copper and then some. You can see pics of it > > here: > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the transfer on the PCB. Looks good in my opinion: > > http://www.msilverman.me/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/DSC_0138.jpg > > > > > > > > This is the finished etch. Looks horrible: > > > > http://www.msilverman.me/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/DSC_0142.jpg > > > > > > > > I almost feel like I made the traces too small.. I made them .016 > > inches. Any recommendations? > > > > > > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com<Homebrew_PCBs%40yahoogroups.com>, > Slavko Kocjancic <eslavko@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > msilv3r pravi: > > > > > > Hi. I'm new to this. I recently got some H202 and HCL from a > > chemical company. The H2O2 is 35%. I'm not sure what percentage the > > HCL is, however it's labeled "Hydrochloric Acid, 8, PG II." I don't > > know what ratio to use. Should I dilute the H202 with water? I'm > > worried about the combination turning into boiling water. Also, are > > lined latex gloves, the kind you use for kitchen cleaning, sufficient > > gloves? Does it matter which you pour in first? I plan on doing this > > outside. I have a plastic container for both the etching and the > > remaining enchant. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > > > > > Just use 1:1:1 ratio and should be ok. > > > > > If HCl is diluted just little longer etching time will be. > > > > > > > > > > Pour watter into bowl after that HCl and last H2O2. You need > > little > > > > > amount of liquid just to cover board. Do not preheat anithing > > and do all > > > > > the thing outside. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: 35% H2O2 and HCL - Ratio?
2010-06-21 by Piers Goodhew
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