Homebrew PCBs

So, first i'd like to explain fuser...what exactly this is...? i 
know it's in laser printers (i have one waste :-) )...

Secondly...with this last paper (HP soft gloss) it's kinda harder 
since, as said, paper doesn't really stick to the board, which is 
good in the look of easy removing, and bad in the look of possible 
sliding. I'll try to tape it somehow, but just normal sello-tape 
won't do since it melts.

I guess it's really best if i get a hold on some 
laminator...damn...i didn't think this start is so hard...
but luckily it seems i have you guys to help me out, so i thank you 
all!


--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "protonceksleeperman" 
<protoncek@...> wrote:
>
> I've been in a store today where they sell HP stuff. Even if this 
> high-gloss laser paper is in their price list, they hardly know it 
> exists. So, they promised me that they will look into it. In the 
> meanwhile they gave me two sample sheets - one HP laserjet tough 
> paper - kind of plastic waterproof one...which turned out bad 
since 
> most of the toner remained on the sheet. then HP everyday photo 
> paper - useless, since transfer comes out totally smudged. Next 
one 
> was HP laserjet soft gloss paper. This one is better - toner 
> transfers excellent, sharp, and when i put it into water paper 
goes 
> off in less than a minute. Remaining last layer (which isn't 
> plastic, since this paper doesn't have high gloss finish) is 
> scrubbed easily with fingers. All would be excellent if a few 
parts 
> of toner wouldn't keep falling off when scrubbing. I tried from 1 
to 
> 5 minutes of ironing, to no avail. I wonder if my iron is really 
> that unlevel...
> Second thing is you mustn't move iron since this paper doesn't 
> really stick to copper and moving results in smudged transfer and 
> wasted procedure. I think i prepare my board well enough, so that 
> isn't it. so...back to experimenting.
> 
> 
> --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "dsv1486" 
> <darrell.vandenberg@> wrote:
> >
> > I have tried the HP premium transparencies as that is all they 
had 
> > at the Staples here in Canada. The results were very poor going 
> > through a Laserjet 6L. I did not bother to even try it on the 
> board 
> > as there was some open areas and low toner adhesion. I will try 
> with 
> > a different laser printer and let you guys know. Has anyone 
tried 
> > the Staples brand of transparencies?? 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "braincambre500" 
> > <braincambre500@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Hello Sir Paul,
> > > 
> > > I have also tried many different chemicals, to get that last 
> layer 
> > off
> > > the board...to no avail.
> > > 
> > > I finally found out that 'boiling water' does it. I keep the 
> board 
> > in
> > > the boilding water, with a pair of needle-nose pliers, then I 
> use 
> > that
> > > green scouring pad, and scrub it off, while keeping that board 
> good
> > > and hot. Works well for me, my friend.
> > > 
> > >                                  ...your friend, Patrick
> > > 
> > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "protonceksleeperman"
> > > <protoncek@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'll post just once and reply to all...
> > > > first to stefan:
> > > > I found one dealer who should have this HP high gloss laser 
> > paper. 
> > > > It's just...why is always the best and most expensive ?it 
only 
> > comes 
> > > > in 200 sheets and costs about 56 euro...i'll go and ask them 
> if 
> > they 
> > > > have it.
> > > > 
> > > > i have one old iron which doesn't have steam, but i guess 
i'll 
> > > > better check out if it has level surface...otherwise 
aluminium 
> > plate 
> > > > is a good solution.
> > > > 
> > > > i'll try out transparency with cloth protection, as you 
> > suggested 
> > > > and see the results. it's just... Murphy has made sure that 
> > (again) 
> > > > i have plenty of laser transparencies, but i'm out of inkjet 
> > > > ones...so, out to store you go...
> > > > 
> > > > i'll try to get some cheaper version of that famous 
HP...from 
> > posted 
> > > > it's just too good to be true. If i get it and get some 
> results, 
> > i 
> > > > will post them, too.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "protonceksleeperman" 
> > > > <protoncek@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi folks! 
> > > > > As all of you, i'm trying to make my first PCB, too. And, 
as 
> > many 
> > > > of 
> > > > > you, i too have problems. I tried several papers, (since 
i'm 
> > in 
> > > > > Europe, i can't get a hold of those mentioned in groups, 
> > usually 
> > > > from 
> > > > > USA), and most of the times some of the toner peels off, 
> while 
> > > > last 
> > > > > layer of paper is very hard to remove. I have measured 
temp 
> on 
> > my 
> > > > > iron, and it's about 230 degrees, so it is enough. I even 
> > tried 
> > > > with 
> > > > > lower temp (about 200) but results were the same. 
> > > > > So, i guess my next try is transparency. But, here i need 
> some 
> > > > info, 
> > > > > please. Like what do you do toi prevent transparency to 
> crook 
> > > > > (distort) from heat? Maybe by applying iron on parts and 
not 
> > on 
> > > > whole 
> > > > > board? how long should all last? And would transparency 
work 
> > in 
> > > > > laminator? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any of suggestions would be very welcome. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks! Paul, Slovenia
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>